Chapter Tower of God Chapter 536 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower of God Chapter 536 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[OneEye]

Hey, I am rereading TOG and I have a question. In chapter 12, there's this guy that can't pass the barrier. There are others too, but this guy made me think of the question. Why was he picked by Headon to climb the tower if he can't even live through Shinshu density from the 30th floor? Lee Ro explains in chapter 11 that regulars showcase their talent and get the right to climb, but people like him have no shot at all of actually climbing the tower? He talks about the limits of a person, and they all have them, but what is the point for him to be picked if his potential can't even reach half of the known tower?

Climbing the tower is comparable to entering kindergarten in order to begin the lifelong process of education. All kids (at least their parents) dream of having them selected to start climbing the tower/education. But many end up as dropouts, depending on their various abilities to cope or to focus.

Even Lesoo Ship had to focus and try hard/repeating the test before actually crossing the shinsoo barier. It can be noted that the guy who couldn't cross was strong enough to pass the first test on Evankhell's floor.

Many regulars regularly fail or die through the many floors in the Tower: Prince, Akraptor... Because they reached their limits and ability to do better at a given point in time.

 

[Big-Bird]

Who told you edhan fuck his own family??
bro edhan is 100% irregular if he have a daughter with an inhabitant if the tower both put his 50% genes simple logic
Plus the zahard blood injected in her.. simple maths. Could be 55% 60% 75% we don’t know how much of zahard DNA is injected in every princesses
That’s why Enne was so strong in just 432 years old
(3) irregulars blood in her…

You should have been more precise when you said you were talking about zahard I thought you were talking about the incestuous theory.

Can’t be a missundertanding is just imposible they are humans they just have his last name because they are wife maybe you not marry to know this basic thing but i am..

You preffer to believe something like that? LOL

and for the Khun family we don't know if it works like that
The only family that explicitly works that way is the Yeon family

Among the 10 houses, Yeon family is the only family that you need to follow the spouse’s last name.. And for them, they follow the woman's last name. Outside of 10 families, it will depend on their house rules.

it depends on the other families
the only Khun we've seen with 2 names are AA, Elliot (maybe) Asencio (maybe) and Lyborick
all the rest have no double name.

So yeah until we get to the Khun arc and learn more about their internal politics the confusion will always exist

SIU only counts children as DD, grandchildren and the like are not counted. Yuri is a great-granddaughter while HJ is a grandson and they are not counted as DDs.

in chapter 416 she calls herself a DD
But i can't deny what S.i.U. says

 

[Jino]

It seems that in this chapter we see the leviathan leaking energy, which is not concentrated or focused energy blow away two high rankers attacks that are said to be similar to Evankhelln in level, I wonder what can Baam do to Traumerei once he properly unleash it's true power

To put into perspective, it's like a slight energy leak, it seems basically like a drop of water being released, so I can assume that he may literally fuck up Traumerei once he released much more

 

[aidkim]

Climbing the tower is comparable to entering kindergarten in order to begin the lifelong process of education. All kids (at least their parents) dream of having them selected to start climbing the tower/education. But many end up as dropouts, depending on their various abilities to cope or to focus.

Even Lesoo Ship had to focus and try hard/repeating the test before actually crossing the shinsoo barier. It can be noted that the guy who couldn't cross was strong enough to pass the first test on Evankhell's floor.

Many regulars regularly fail or die through the many floors in the Tower: Prince, Akraptor... Because they reached their limits and ability to do better at a given point in time.

Headon likely has better tools to judge someone's worth to climb the tower than a simple ranker like Leero, so maybe the regular has a genuine chance to succeed, albeit with much more difficult than a talented individual. Or Headon is recruiting people who can climb to the top, and people who can be used as obstacle to the former (using them as stepping stone to reach higher height). We don't really know how Headon select people I think.

Thank you for your answers.

I specifically mean Shinsho resistance. If it's something that can be built, the test is nonsense and they could get it with time, so there is no point to single him out and telling him to give up if he can still work on it and try again like in the later floors.

If he can't work on it, then there is no point to pick people like that guy who can't live on the 30th floor and up. Or I guess the point for him is to climb to like the 25th floor and stop as some people do on the 20th floor? Then they can be used as obstacles as you say.

I wonder what type of criteria a person needs to fill if they want to climb. Or if there even are specific criteria.

 

[zoradante1]

In the case of bam it's a far more reasonable explanation that bam's reinforcement was simply good enough for a task. Bam's never been the type to simply take damage with no reinforcement after all. And while bam apparently lacks reinforcement shinsoo attributes so far he is still pretty competent at it which has made it into a viable lifeline for him through his climb. Add to that, most of the powerups bam would have gone through absolutely do have an effect on how potent his reinforcement is. There's no specific reason for us to think that the powerups bam has undergone actually have an effect on his base body strength...

Base body strength is a different thing from anything shinsoo related. People with strong bodies in this series can do extraordinary things without a speck of reinforcement. Like kallavan eating white's sword slashes at the wall of peaceful coexistence. Stack any amount of reinforcement over that and you get a living fortress like kallavan...

Absorbing other admins ( Red t and blue t) gave certain abilities to him. like how red t gave him a greater range to produce shinsu,and greater ability to judge or read situations.

Season 2 ch 260, baam explains how red t affected him that much, blue t also gave some of it's abilities to baam like how it's act as a foundation to activate thorn since baam is currently not powerful enough as well as likely to be the reason why baam's shinsoo enchanment increases that much. And as for leviathan,considering how tough it's body,it should give it's abilities to base baam like red t and blue t did it. Like greater physical abilities.

You are simply misunderstanding the things in here. It's simply impossible to just stop white's sword with hands just because of shinsoo enchanment. There should be a minimum level of physical ability to do that. I know shinsoo enchanment basically did %90 of the job but there should be also a strong body to withstand that much of shinsoo enchanment.

In all likelihood baam is simply physically much stronger than rankers at this point. Unless SIU comes up with another bullshit again like how he did firefish a Axis.

There is also another fact,Ha Chai said his physical abilities should grow much faster due to trainings he gone through. Plus with how SIU started to portray him as muscular guy right now rather than the skinny guy at the start of season 3 as well as season 2, it should give us hint of baam's ability to grow much faster physically.


Also, i don't think there is a much difference between baam's shinsoo ability and physical ability. It only looks like there is because there is so much power in baam's inside which just gives him more shinsoo power rather than greater physical ability. If you look into base baam's physical ability and shinsoo ability, you should see there is not much difference between them. Yeah his shinsoo ability is greater but i don't think it's to a point the current baam's physical ability is that much behind. At best if we say baam's shinsoo ability is like 100 then his physical ability is like 95-99.

Just remembering the fact that he used levi's slight leak of power without getting tired or using the thorn, he should have been physically much stronger than the at the start of season 3.

 

[Ignorant]

Yeah, I saw your comment after I posted the reply. But the point is that their ability to use shinsu from birth doesn't make them irregular in any way. They still need the consent if the admins while irregulars are said to be able to use shinsu freelywithout limits.

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Who say that? I just say they have privileges because their blood, they born under contracts to train with shinsu before everybody else in the tower plus the talents they inherit from their fathers that’s why the 10 family kids regulars are the strongest.. and this is all because they have irregular blood in their veins.. is just that nobody say that they are irregulars in anyway i hope you get my point now.

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It seems that in this chapter we see the leviathan leaking energy, which is not concentrated or focused energy blow away two high rankers attacks that are said to be similar to Evankhelln in level, I wonder what can Baam do to Traumerei once he properly unleash it's true power

To put into perspective, it's like a slight energy leak, it seems basically like a drop of water being released, so I can assume that he may literally fuck up Traumerei once he released much more

They are not EVK level it was the impression from YHS And it was just the spear attack from Holan.. plus it was not just him ,JH and baam combined the attack One stopped the attack and the other destroyed the spear… it was impressive anyway.

 

[O_n_Sly]

They are not EVK level it was the impression from YHS And it was just the spear attack from Holan.. plus it was not just him ,JH and baam combined the attack One stopped the attack and the other destroyed the spear… it was impressive anyway.

JH’s attack would of destroyed Holan’s Shinheuh, Baam was just overkill

 

[kkck]

Season 2 ch 260, baam explains how red t affected him that much, blue t also gave some of it's abilities to baam like how it's act as a foundation to activate thorn since baam is currently not powerful enough as well as likely to be the reason why baam's shinsoo enchanment increases that much. And as for leviathan,considering how tough it's body,it should give it's abilities to base baam like red t and blue t did it. Like greater physical abilities.

You are simply misunderstanding the things in here. It's simply impossible to just stop white's sword with hands just because of shinsoo enchanment. There should be a minimum level of physical ability to do that. I know shinsoo enchanment basically did %90 of the job but there should be also a strong body to withstand that much of shinsoo enchanment.

In all likelihood baam is simply physically much stronger than rankers at this point. Unless SIU comes up with another bullshit again like how he did firefish a Axis.

There is also another fact,Ha Chai said his physical abilities should grow much faster due to trainings he gone through. Plus with how SIU started to portray him as muscular guy right now rather than the skinny guy at the start of season 3 as well as season 2, it should give us hint of baam's ability to grow much faster physically.


Also, i don't think there is a much difference between baam's shinsoo ability and physical ability. It only looks like there is because there is so much power in baam's inside which just gives him more shinsoo power rather than greater physical ability. If you look into base baam's physical ability and shinsoo ability, you should see there is not much difference between them. Yeah his shinsoo ability is greater but i don't think it's to a point the current baam's physical ability is that much behind. At best if we say baam's shinsoo ability is like 100 then his physical ability is like 95-99.

Just remembering the fact that he used levi's slight leak of power without getting tired or using the thorn, he should have been physically much stronger than the at the start of season 3.

Welp, those are pretty big claims. It's not like I am saying that bam's physical strength is negligible either. It's definitely increased over the series and this has been noted a plenty of times. But there's a difference between it improving and it now being comparable to where rankers are at. It being ranker level by now is an insanely big claim considering that bam started the series being average by our standards, not even average by the series standards. From then his shinsoo growth has been shown vastly outpacing his physical growth. Nothing indicates this has changed at all (bam's physical appearance is 100% irrelevant on this front). I don't really see how we can reasonably argue bam's physical strength is now this insanely high without the series addressing this in some way. Let alone that the series has shown how far reinforcement can go.... Say, with miseng taking out D class regulars with ease at the last station after getting her shinsoo attribute (and of course, this boost came without a boost to her base physical strength).

If bam's physical ability was anywhere near comparable to his shinsoo ability he'd be on his way to matching or surpassing the likes of kallavan or zahard princesses.... I don't even rule out bam having the potential for this eventually, but the series has never really taken back anything concerning bam's physical capacity nor shown anything new. And the bulk of his growth has consistently come from his wealth of powers which enhance his shinsoo control. There's basically no reason for us to think any of it has anything to do with his base physical strength.

As for bam using the leviathan bit... the series basically dealt with bam's stamina issues when bam started burning the souls within him. Bam hasn't exactly gotten tired from overuse after that. And after that boost he got whatever it is he got after he got gutted by white. And then he got more of white's power. None of it has much to do with his physical strength stats.

 

[DeadCosmos]

The external aura manifestation of the thryssas is what obviously increased his physical strength so much!! Thats what he used to block whites sword, bam is sitll weak physically and always will be! Because he is wave controller.

 

[Theorist05]

I hope we get to see a Zahard princess from the yeon family…it would be interesting.

 

[O_n_Sly]

So Vicente thought baam would not have enough room for Levi. Levi thought the same and mentioned how Traum couldn’t tame him. I’m guessing the FHs reached their absorption limit!!! Or Baam has unlimited space!

 

[zoradante1]

So Vicente thought baam would not have enough room for Levi. Levi thought the same and mentioned how Traum couldn’t tame him. I’m guessing the FHs reached their absorption limit!!! Or Baam has unlimited space!

baam has unlimited space, it has been shown a lot of times. like how he absorbed red t quite easily didn't even feel anything, and didn't even know he absorbed that thing.

It might be also that great family leaders has reached the peak of their potential(has no space left anymore). Hence can't obtain more power.

 

[kkck]

The external aura manifestation of the thryssas is what obviously increased his physical strength so much!! Thats what he used to block whites sword, bam is sitll weak physically and always will be! Because he is wave controller.

I wouldn't go as far as saying he will always be weak physically. All members of the great families have above average physical strength... Bam's body should hold out to the lower tiers of that at least considering his heritage. Bam excels as a wave controller but we still lack a ton of information regarding what V's and Arlene's specks in combat were. From V we only know high tension and in flashbacks he also holds a black needle while from arlene we only know she used spells but spells seem to not have a direct connection to shinsoo. Stranger still is that eduan had never seen an orb by the time his data self had been saved... Which I think could be explained by two things:

1.- Neither v nor arlene had the attribute. Which is... weird. On so many fronts. V with high tension would be suited for an orb, arlene at least doesn't look like a physical fighter and gustang and blosom are the tower's greatest wave controllers. So... it's weird that no one had an orb as a primary attribute.

2.- The companions travelled the hell train split across several groups. Which could explain eduan not being familiar with an orb, simply the wave controller in his team didn't have one.

In any case, it's perfectly reasoanable that bam could have the genes to develop an incredibly powerful body given enough time. Even his more physically able companions already had a couple decades worth of training by the time they started climbing the tower... Bam's growth in this department is probably simply closer to average... Or at least simply nowhere near close to his shinsoo control growth.

 

[Turtle hunter]

I hope we get to see a Zahard princess from the yeon family…it would be interesting.

Honestly Yeon princess look impressive to me .

 

[O_n_Sly]

I’m guessing the LPB princess was the one who ripped out Reflejo’s eyes

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The Bosses/Captains can enter Yool’s mind like Dokoko and Ren!!! They too could be another failed experiment on behalf of Traum’s request!!!

 

[Brian Taboada]

baam has unlimited space, it has been shown a lot of times. like how he absorbed red t quite easily didn't even feel anything, and didn't even know he absorbed that thing.

It might be also that great family leaders has reached the peak of their potential(has no space left anymore). Hence can't obtain more power.

Albelda was astonished that Baam could absorb a billion souls so easily without any problems. Rachel said to Baam "You are a 'Monster', born to curse this Tower and devour everything". Lev could not believe the space inside of Baam.

I don't think it is that the internal space of the FHs has filled up as much as Baam truly has an unlimited amount of space to devour everything in the tower.

 

[kkck]

baam has unlimited space, it has been shown a lot of times. like how he absorbed red t quite easily didn't even feel anything, and didn't even know he absorbed that thing.

It might be also that great family leaders has reached the peak of their potential(has no space left anymore). Hence can't obtain more power.

On this end I think the distinction would be... Rather than the family heads necessarily having less ram than bam they simply lack the ability to devour things. Based on what little we know from the family heads for instance hana got her fire from an ancient and this fire is passed on to her family members somehow. But without an ability to devour like bam then she would probably simply be a host for the power, I would argue in a similar manner to how kallavan hosts the essense of bravery or how khel hellam hosts the cow ancient. It's unclear whether hana's flame would hold actual agency though. When bam devours something the implication is that this assimilated, it becomes a part of him. I doubt anything bam has absorbed can simply leave like acrinak or the other ancients probably could. It's unclear whether he could willingly give power away either. Given his apparent assimilation that feels more like giving up an arm... The leviathan is probably in a weird grey area in this regard since he remains within the seal.

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I hope we get to see a Zahard princess from the yeon family…it would be interesting.

Agreed. If you consider yeon specks (hana was both a fisherman an wave controller) a yeon with the whole breath of talent available to the yeon would be more interesting than most other families who so far remain princesseless. Unfortunately the lore as it is now isn't too friendly to the idea of a princess from every family. Though it sounds like a safe bet that most families would have produced one at some point or another at least. In any case a princess from the yeon family that inherited everything the yeon lineage would have to offer would have strong base physical attributes combined with the far more important flame of destruction and flame of saving. For a princess obviously the destruction one would be more important of course but combined the possibilities are endless. As far as I can tell the flame of saving can be used on yourself... So you'd have a princess that could heal others, herself and even use her own flames to give herself a boost... That of course combined with the possibilities other lineages brought into the family could produce when combined with the yeon flame as well. I suppose there is room for a yeon princess to currently be a thing but unfortunately not THAT much room...

 

[DeadCosmos]

what if leviathan and firefish had a baby, would be really strong

 

[zoradante1]

On this end I think the distinction would be... Rather than the family heads necessarily having less ram than bam they simply lack the ability to devour things. Based on what little we know from the family heads for instance hana got her fire from an ancient and this fire is passed on to her family members somehow. But without an ability to devour like bam then she would probably simply be a host for the power, I would argue in a similar manner to how kallavan hosts the essense of bravery or how khel hellam hosts the cow ancient. It's unclear whether hana's flame would hold actual agency though. When bam devours something the implication is that this assimilated, it becomes a part of him. I doubt anything bam has absorbed can simply leave like acrinak or the other ancients probably could. It's unclear whether he could willingly give power away either. Given his apparent assimilation that feels more like giving up an arm... The leviathan is probably in a weird grey area in this regard since he remains within the seal.

i think it's simply that baam not only has power to devour everything but also has unlimited potential(space) inside of him as well, even if you gain ability to devour things you can't store them up if you don't have a big belly like baam. Baam simply looks like a someone who outclasses the other irregulars in everything. Maybe the reason why baam was so weak at the start of series, was due to fact that he had ability to devour things. In a lot of novels or manga i read where MC had ability to devour things, they would genereally start very weak at the start of series and would become literally strongest character on series due to fact that they had ability to devour anything and make them a part of the MC, which would not only give the MC it's certain affinities of creature but greater talent as well. It might be also that baam(or the person who got resurrected by outside god) had no talent(except for copy talent) but simply devoured corpse baby baam and absorbed it's talent,but didn't gain any power since it was a baby.

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what if leviathan and firefish had a baby, would be really strong

firefish is a axis, a bug like leviathan has no worthy power to breed with firefish.