Chapter Tower of God Chapter 537 Spoilers & Discussion

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom @kkck

The translated chapter is out!


From Shiin ^_^
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Im waiting for it too cause I did a quick skim with the last pages and can't find any except snippets from here and someone's mobile translation in Twitter. Though it should be sometime soon within the week (I don't know much what happened to the usual translator but I hope they're doing fine)
@axolotl sorry for the delay
 

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Translated chapter[by alpha scans]----
@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin
 

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Guys, you guys are missing out on what really matters here.

We had a bombshell revelation in the chapter that no one expected.

Maschenny, the little dragon the sea cannot contain, is not omniscient. :gwah:gwah:gwah
Oh, no, we got that. Still waiting on the response!
 

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I just looked through the chapter... and now the argument some make here that Traum is weak makes even less sense. Yas literally got one spotted lmao. The only reason he survived this long is because he's at least fast enough to dodge some of the Shinenieh's attacks.
 

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I don't think anyone thinks he is total trash. He's still an ancient irregular that can do better in ANY position than practically all of the rest in the tower, and has untold numbers of other tricks up his sleeves.

I just think the argument being made is that his showing is lacking - as the defacto king anima.
Ah, but honestly, apart from Kaiser or Alphine and maybe lefav, which anima wasn't disappointing?
 

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An automatic summons means that the summoner has set a specific condition for their summons and if an enemy meets this condition then the summons will automatically appear without the summoner's approval.
Doesn't this mean that a trifle he expected to finish off easily exceeded his expectations twice?
 

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An automatic summons means that the summoner has set a specific condition for their summons and if an enemy meets this condition then the summons will automatically appear without the summoner's approval.

If this is the case with Traumerai it means his "condition" is to approach him which Yas did twice.

If you still don't understand, let's take an example. Jubei you are a summoner and you are weird so you decide to make sure that anyone who says your name out loud with hostile intent will summon monsters. In a future fight you face an opponent, the monsters you summoned are strong enough to beat him but he is persistent and decides to scream your name.

Since this is the condition you have chosen, other summons will appear even if they are not necessary, useful or mandatory for what you are currently doing. They will still appear.


In this case I agree
But I addressed this with @sazon who makes the (correct) point that Yas is too fast and too small for Cobalt/Eel.

Which means Rei ordered them to do a task they were not qualified to do.

Which means Yas was able to bypass them easily, which should NOT have been the result based on Rei's orders.
 

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I would like to know how old Hollam is, as he considers himself the biggest talent in the LPB family.

If he's less than 1000 years old, our wolf girl must find him very interesting.
 

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He's not weak compared to the other heads. You have no bases on this.
Well, I mean I *do*

His rank for one. The fact that other FH's were highlighted as strongest is another.

His showing here is just icing on the cake.

I highly doubt Eduan or Hon wouldn't accomplish a task with immediacy that they set out to do.
 

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You are the one who is hitting this key the most. lmao
If you check the last thread, I was valiantly defending LPB and how impossible it is for him to fall in this arc.

He even compared him to a real god, which no FH is.
At this point who qualifies as a 'god' is subjective. It could be fighting with 4 beasts without moving a muscle.
For me it used to be obliterating the trifle with a simple summon, but not anymore
 

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Doesn't this mean that a trifle he expected to finish off easily exceeded his expectations twice?
if this is the "condition" of Traum, yes
But I addressed this with @sazon who makes the (correct) point that Yas is too fast and too small for Cobalt/Eel.

Which means Rei ordered them to do a task they were not qualified to do.

Which means Yas was able to bypass them easily, which should NOT have been the result based on Rei's orders.
I guess so.
 

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I would like to know how old Hollam is, as he considers himself the biggest talent in the LPB family.

If he's less than 1000 years old, our wolf girl must find him very interesting.
On one hand, I do kind of like his ancient fossil summons. A nice touch by SIU for the sea-life fauna we get to see. (as well as the crazy uber-summons by Rei).

On the other, I love his level of denial and simultaneous realization the tower is a lot bigger than he imagined while his arms are a bloody mess. I wonder if Jinsung winced at least a bit in empathy...
 

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The LPB family is one of the most active in the entire history of ToG, imagine in the tower.

And yet, Rei is barely in the top 20. That is, if he is, I wouldn't be surprised if SIU simply puts the Ha twins above him. (it's just irony)

So yes, until there is concrete evidence that the top 20 has other factors besides strength, Rei is one of the weakest FH.

I just don't say the weakest because of bloodmadder, until we know why he's not immortal like the others, I'll put him as the weakest.
 

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The LPB family is one of the most active in the entire history of ToG, imagine in the tower.

And yet, Rei is barely in the top 20. That is, if he is, I wouldn't be surprised if SIU simply puts the Ha twins above him. (it's just irony)

So yes, until there is concrete evidence that the top 20 has other factors besides strength, Rei is one of the weakest FH.

I just don't say the weakest because of bloodmadder, until we know why he's not immortal like the others, I'll put him as the weakest.
In before 'but but but rankings have more to them other than fighting power' argument.
 

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I would like to know how old Hollam is, as he considers himself the biggest talent in the LPB family.

If he's less than 1000 years old, our wolf girl must find him very interesting.
You think Kaiser compare to him in term of talent ?
 

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I brought last chapter how the beast is not strong enough to pulverize a CC tier, my issue with this is Rei accepted becoming anima during his climb and got better at it as he and his companions challenged the floor's administrator's tests. Rei's beasts need at least to be strong that Rei can contend against another Great Warrior, they can't be fodder that is easily before they can even do anything. So I'm expecting the beasts at their base, just a lower tier than the Great Warriors themselves. There are still tiers above CC I believe, like matured Zahard princess, floor's ruler, Adori tier, people like Luslec tier (if Adori is well above him), so the 2 summons Harpe and the frog should be able to easily kill Yas, in fact one of them should be enough, having 2 and failed to do so is egregious.

Even if Harpe and the frog are the weakest of Rei's beasts, they should be still 1 or more tier above than Yas. These summons are not like goblins/skeleton tier, just some fodder type summons, but named and from a strong sounding specie. Bad yet, 2 more beasts joined in. This doesn't look good on Rei's part, even if he is overwhelmingly strong still compared to Yas.
 

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i think people are forgetting that when traumerei showed up he turned down the lights and literally everyone in the war shat his or her pants. traumerei has done more to change the lighting in his room than to deal with yaratcha.
He didn’t turn down any lights! He tinted the roof windows! Yas broke the glass last chapter and in came light LOL
 

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In before 'but but but rankings have more to them other than fighting power' argument.
What is you point ? That influence don't matter ? or that influence matter very less when compared to power ?
 

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On one hand, I do kind of like his ancient fossil summons. A nice touch by SIU for the sea-life fauna we get to see. (as well as the crazy uber-summons by Rei).

On the other, I love his level of denial and simultaneous realization the tower is a lot bigger than he imagined while his arms are a bloody mess. I wonder if Jinsung winced at least a bit in empathy...
While the animas are a disappointment, the shinheuh are not.

I really liked the fact that SIU escapes the conventional concept of summons and stays on the theme (if you look at it, the most powerful shinheuh have to do with water, that is, shinsoo).

This summon (or summons, I don't know if the creature is changing its shape or if there are several) of Hollam is incredibly powerful, just the fact that she can move HJ is already a feat and him being able to control her is a great feat too.

But that's about it, it's hilarious and that to me just proves how isolated the regulars are in the climb and how gigantic the tower is.

He climbed the tower without any problems, but he probably never encountered princesses, Aries or DDs from other families. This corroborates why he's just satisfied with the monsters he knows because they've been there for a long time and can't grow any further.

I believe this will be a factor in the future of regulars when they become rankers.
 

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What is you point ? That influence don't matter ? or that influence matter very less when compared to power ?
That fighting power far and away is the most important, and other factors that you mention are largely influenced by... fighting power.
 

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In before 'but but but rankings have more to them other than fighting power' argument.
I use the card "to enter the top 300 you need to steal this position by killing" in attack mode.
 
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