Chapter Tower of God Chapter 538 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

@Demonspeed @Lady pompom


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[Jyu viole grace]

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Tower of God Chapter 538 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[bigfat]

Even if it's the way you say, and Kallavan was stronger than White, the difference was still miserable. Baam was also stronger than White, which made him +- equal to Kallavan, no? So I am saying that he was at the level of a CC at that point.

way above CC rank

 

[Phantaminum]

I think some of people dont know how to read between the lines here. You guys are undermining Laevatian, his power is overwhelming even those high rankers, Owl, Ha Jinsung, et al felt Laevatian's presence. Even Traum himself felt the tremendous presence that is why he teleported Bam asap because his cronies was about to get wrecked. I mean Mascheny is not that stupid taking Ha Jinsung as a hostage hence she and the other person know Bam has a shot getting Laevatian. I mean yes you guys are correct that Bam alone cant scathe Traum but with Leavatian its a different story.

 

[DERRICK S NIBLACK]

I don't think he needs to test Baam since he is aware that he is an Irregular. The question is wether Baam will accept to go with him or not.

Oh they fighting. I can't see Baam just going with Traumerei because he asked him to. Currently Baam is the only one who can stall for time so they can escape. He's the second most powerful in the Nest.

 

[Enryuu]

No one in the story has been introduced as a grandchild or other later descendant of Eduan.

Well since Po pidau lyborick khun has the names of both families and both head of the families are male he has to be the grandson of at least one of them if not both of them. And since bears the po pidau name first I think he is the grandson of Eduan.

 

[Pro Factor]

Oh they fighting. I can't see Baam just going with Traumerei because he asked him to. Currently Baam is the only one who can stall for time so they can escape. He's the second most powerful in the Nest.

If they aren’t gonna fight that would be so anticlimactic. This fight NEEDS to happen to show everybody just that not only irregulars are not in the same league as others,but that they aren’t even playing the same sport.

 

[King Dryst]

Oh they fighting. I can't see Baam just going with Traumerei because he asked him to. Currently Baam is the only one who can stall for time so they can escape. He's the second most powerful in the Nest.

And if it's framed as 'I'm a Family Head, come with me and I'll let your trifles go free or refuse and I'll kill them'?

Baam has stomached a bad situation for the sake of the people around him before. It's not unthinkable that he'll do it again.

 

[Demonspeed]

Oh they fighting. I can't see Baam just going with Traumerei because he asked him to. Currently Baam is the only one who can stall for time so they can escape. He's the second most powerful in the Nest.

I am sure a fight will happen but not because Traumerei wants to test him. He doesn't need to. I don't think Baam can do anything if Traumerei actually tries, Yasratcha and Yama are all alive because of his passive behavior.

 

[Arjuna]

I don't think Traumerei will be able to capture Baam.Either his powers and or his second Thorn will make him able to escape.Especially as there is a heavy chance Gustang may arrive soon.


Though i want to see Traumerei's reaction on seeing Baam using Leviathan's powers.Imagine him seeing that Baam can use a power which he couldn't.It will be hilarious .

 

[Fortress of Solitude]

The question is wether Baam will accept to go with him or not.

Bam had learned from White that he had to think of his friends' safety first.
Escaping is the only option.

This fight NEEDS to happen

It's another fight from the war FUG vs Zahard...
If Bam use the teleportation device, he will be send in the middle area. The beginning on another story.

 

[kkck]

So we finally get the meeting...

Traumerei: Sup.
Bam: hi?
Traumerei: Wanna be friends?
Bam: Only if you haven't been mean to my friends.
Traumerei: Bummer. Hey you trifles, prepare the warp gate-
Traumerei: Is that my shiny leviathan?

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The comment that seems strangest to me here is what yama mentioned about traumerei not having a bowl. I would have assumed traumerei had a couple anima which didn't require a bowl since his descendants have that (say, elaine) but him not using bowls at all kinda defies the lore. Maybe he can make a bowl with his shinsoo? Invisible bowl? Maybe his robe is the bowl..

 

[shaheer]

Lol but you witnessed it’s power on FoD right? Urek was unable to use shinsu! Can Levi do anything close to that lol????

Probably because it was FoD, RT was the technical sucessor of the admin of FoD so it had that effect I suppose. I m not sure if it can do anything of that sort in other floor each goverened by its own admin

 

[kkck]

Something else I have been thinking... We know the LPB agreed to take on the po bidao family under certain conditions but looking at traumerei it's a bit of a hard sell that he got behind this plan. Let alone that he has not evidenced an interest in the war at all. It's hard to imagine traumerei making moves to get more political power as well. Imagine caring about political power among the trifles. I am thinking that it's probably one or both of the family's top 2 that got behind this... Though I can't imagine how traumerei showing up at the war affected their plans. Of course, even with bam a victory against traumerei as things are in the nest is 110% impossible so on that front it's hard to imagine traumerei's presence being a problem... But traumerei won't be quite a reliable ally on the field either. Everyone is on their toes trying to not get smited...

 

[Calm Core]

Why you judge by the second wall?

How can you explain then that White fought with Kallavan at the same level, and then Baam fought with White and he admmited that Baam was stronger?

This is clear like day that Baam was already equal or stronger than a CC at that point.

Baam became stronger than White when he had the "dark change". In the beggining of the fight White was toying with him

 

[Ignorant]

I think some of people dont know how to read between the lines here. You guys are undermining Laevatian, his power is overwhelming even those high rankers, Owl, Ha Jinsung, et al felt Laevatian's presence. Even Traum himself felt the tremendous presence that is why he teleported Bam asap because his cronies was about to get wrecked. I mean Mascheny is not that stupid taking Ha Jinsung as a hostage hence she and the other person know Bam has a shot getting Laevatian. I mean yes you guys are correct that Bam alone cant scathe Traum but with Leavatian its a different story.

The thing is that traumerei has 7 beast at least top 50-100 each in power and he himself is probably stronger than the 7 beast together so right now is impossible to calculated traumerei potential.. baam is that one impressed here not him..
WW, Yas, acrinak, hybrid are very weak compare to traumerei
And he can’t controlled them so the fact that he can’t control leviathan means nothing to his power.

 

[kkck]

I think some of people dont know how to read between the lines here. You guys are undermining Laevatian, his power is overwhelming even those high rankers, Owl, Ha Jinsung, et al felt Laevatian's presence. Even Traum himself felt the tremendous presence that is why he teleported Bam asap because his cronies was about to get wrecked. I mean Mascheny is not that stupid taking Ha Jinsung as a hostage hence she and the other person know Bam has a shot getting Laevatian. I mean yes you guys are correct that Bam alone cant scathe Traum but with Leavatian its a different story.

To me the main issue here is that we have no idea of what the power scaling here looks like. It's pretty clear that the anima traumerei is using are far more powerful than yama or yaratcha. It's not even remotely close. The fight is proceeding like this because traumerei can't be deigned to make a move. On the bam front, he has accumulated multiple powerups and we have not even seen what they amount to. Bam got the dark change powerup which allowed him to corner white, then got another portion of white's powers AND now he got leviathan which presumably remained sealed within him. With leviathan bam has shown he can push back even monsters like pudily... And using shinwonryu, blue thrysa and the leaked power gave him a comfortable win over holan, who had been an asset in confronting jinsung.

But... we have no idea of how much stronger than anyone traumerei is. The closest reference to how much stronger irregulars can be compared to family heads is karaka not being worth 1% of urek's power... The leviathan is very unlikely to actually be comparable to a family head IMO. Powerful? Sure. Stronger than pudily? Extremely likely. But for all we know it's not even strong enough to take on great family regents... So we have no idea of how strong bam is because he has accumulated powerups which he hasn't fully used, we have no idea of how strong traumerei is and we have no idea of how strong leviathan is.

 

[EternalWinter]

One of them is FUG's best asset. The other served the best possible purpose he could have in being powerup fodder for the only guy in the whole org who matters in the big picture.

Nah, the other guy literally turns time against the enemy in a drawn out conflict

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So are we really so deluded to think that it's arias time reversal power that bam used to bring her back? Lol, no.

what else

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You’re going to get the stans worked up lol

You're being dumb sly, the other guy literally converts the dead into his own power. The more people die, the stronger white gets. Allies or enemies. It's insanity you guys don't realize what a broken power that is

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 11, 2022 ---

No one in the story has been introduced as a grandchild or other later descendant of Eduan.

Baam and Maschenny will fix this in short order, don't you worry Cinera

 

[Demonspeed]

Something else I have been thinking... We know the LPB agreed to take on the po bidao family under certain conditions but looking at traumerei it's a bit of a hard sell that he got behind this plan. Let alone that he has not evidenced an interest in the war at all. It's hard to imagine traumerei making moves to get more political power as well. Imagine caring about political power among the trifles. I am thinking that it's probably one or both of the family's top 2 that got behind this... Though I can't imagine how traumerei showing up at the war affected their plans. Of course, even with bam a victory against traumerei as things are in the nest is 110% impossible so on that front it's hard to imagine traumerei's presence being a problem... But traumerei won't be quite a reliable ally on the field either. Everyone is on their toes trying to not get smited...

I don't think Traumerei cares much but he must have given his consent. I can't imagine them trying something behind his back.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Probably because it was FoD, RT was the technical sucessor of the admin of FoD so it had that effect I suppose. I m not sure if it can do anything of that sort in other floor each goverened by its own admin

Great point there! Makes perfect sense, just like YHS had the anima ability on the second floor only

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 11, 2022, Original Post Date: Apr 11, 2022 ---

You're being dumb sly, the other guy literally converts the dead into his own power. The more people die, the stronger white gets. Allies or enemies. It's insanity you guys don't realize what a broken power that is

That version of White is gone and not getting into a huge clown white debate today! BUT you’re wrong the more that die is meaningless, he needs STRONG souls in order to get stronger! Or else he’d be camped out on a lower floor picking off regulars, we all know what happens when a real opponent shows up LOL

 

[kkck]

I don't think Traumerei cares much but he must have given his consent. I can't imagine them trying something behind his back.

I don't think this is necessarily the case. Because... traumerei doesn't care. His involvement in most stuff is mostly non existent. We saw the flashback with the two high rankers from his family fighting it out and how they got killed for the lolz when yaratcha suggested it. To traumerei his family members insignificant. Tower residents are worthless trifles to him. He certainly won't give a crap about gustang's worthless property. Given traumerei's attitude I would argue it's pretty likely that the family is mostly run by the regents. Over the story we have seen that the LPB have made efforts to gain power in the tower. But does traumerei look like he cares about that? We know the LPB agreed to help out against the po bidao in exchange for a number of things... But traumerei does not look like he values any of those. Can you imagine traumerei putting a non zero amount of effort to have his family lead a squadron in zahard's army? While I have no doubt that traumerei would make moves for other great warriors I can't imagine him concerning himself over the paltry politics of worthless trifles. In turn the LPB regents making moves for more political power seems more likely. And odds are that traumerei would have been mostly uninvolved with any of this.

 

[Brian Taboada]

I don't think this is necessarily the case. Because... traumerei doesn't care. His involvement in most stuff is mostly non existent. We saw the flashback with the two high rankers from his family fighting it out and how they got killed for the lolz when yaratcha suggested it. To traumerei his family members insignificant. Tower residents are worthless trifles to him. He certainly won't give a crap about gustang's worthless property. Given traumerei's attitude I would argue it's pretty likely that the family is mostly run by the regents. Over the story we have seen that the LPB have made efforts to gain power in the tower. But does traumerei look like he cares about that? We know the LPB agreed to help out against the po bidao in exchange for a number of things... But traumerei does not look like he values any of those. Can you imagine traumerei putting a non zero amount of effort to have his family lead a squadron in zahard's army? While I have no doubt that traumerei would make moves for other great warriors I can't imagine him concerning himself over the paltry politics of worthless trifles. In turn the LPB regents making moves for more political power seems more likely. And odds are that traumerei would have been mostly uninvolved with any of this.

Traumerei here is a bit of an enigma to me. Stepping back a second... Zahard could care less about fug until Baam arrives. Then, the first 3 orders in years arrive with an emphasis that Baam must be terminated. Yet Zahard allows Traumerei to take Baam (keep him alive) in exchange for killing Gustangs family. If Baam is such a threat to Zahard's empire, why would he let Baam live and give him to Traumerei?

Now Traumerei grabs Baam and says he wants to meet him. ***I dont think Traumerei knows who Baam is. (Lineage)*** Gustang and Zahard had very different encounters recognizing Baam. Maybe we have to wait for a chapter for Traumerei to acknowledge Baam. I think it is Traumerei motives for participating here that drives this conflict. I think Traumerei is curious about Baam and could give a rats ars about anyone else. After all, there is a 5% chance he and Baam will have a little chat and Baam walks away without a fight if Traumerei discovers who Baam parents are. However, that would basically put the entire LPB family in the same boat as the PB family. But who knows, Traumerei does not seem to really care about his family. With that said, Baam cannot be captured like leviathan as spells dont work on him and Baam now shares Leviathan's power which blew apart the suspendium crystal. Thus, Traumerei has to kill Baam which we know cant happen to our hero. I am betting Tramerei lets him go.