Chapter Tower of God Chapter 538 Spoilers & Discussion

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom


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Tower of God Chapter 538 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Sousko]

So what?

1. Has they introduce grandchild or other later descendant of Po Bidau? Lyborick is definitely either grandchild or other later descendant of at least one between Po Bidau or Khun. The fact that he use Po Bidau instead of Khun as front surname while both family are patriachal and normally use surname in front means he is male descendant of Po Bidau.
2. The fact that they choose to use crest instead of surname as the prize of the competition means the acknowledgement doesn't relate to right to bear Khun surname.

Nb:
During the Name Hunt Station, Khun Ran name was announced loud (with surname included). His name garner attention further as he defeat Hesse. Arie Inieta confirmed that he know this, however, he only conclude that Ran is a DD because Ran has sturdy body that able to withstand his attack. It means even non-DD can bear Khun surname.

Alll this going on and this is what you worried about bruh? You worried about the wrong things in tower of god

 

[Big-Bird]

Yes SIU told us a lot of things and then changed it.

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Yeah and he hasn't changed that information

Literally you own post say he can play all the positions and that’s just for the fisherman but keep saying it is not going to harm you anyway.

In fact, it just means that he can take the position you ask him to do and not look at you and make a Pikachu face, not that he is good at the position, just that he can do it.

FH's are theoretically excellent in every position but they are really specialized in 1 or 2, why should it be different for YHS?

In fact we have his stat sheet so there's no need to theorize:

So yes YHS can do all the positions but for example he is so bad as a Spear Bearer that he could give cataracts to a Khun

(Last time I checked SIU has not made any declaration on the cards and should still be considered as canon)

 

[Cinera]

The fact that he use Po Bidau instead of Khun as front surname while both family are patriachal and normally use surname in front means he is male descendant of Po Bidau.

This is a baseless headcanon. There's nothing at all supporting it. We don't know what the order of the names means:

• The "Zahard" name always comes last.
• Satcha is "Lo Po Bia Ha Satcha"
  • We don't have any other examples of someone with two Great Family names.
• The only other example of a Great Family Hybrid we know, uses only one Family name ("Eurasia Enne").

There's no evidence for: "Po Bidau in front means that he's a son of Gustang". It's completely made up.

 

[Yelnats]

There's no evidence for: "Po Bidau in front means that he's a son of Gustang". It's completely made up.

I am not saying "son" but patrilineal descendant. It is the standard of Po Bidau family that the surname is in front.

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Satcha is "Lo Po Bia Ha Satcha"

• We don't have any other examples of someone with two Great Family names.

Satcha case is an adoption case. Lo Po Bia normally put the surname in front just like Po Bidau and Khun. Her original name is Ha Satcha, note that Ha family is matriachal, they put mother surname at the front.

As for Zahard, we don't even know if he has full name. We don't even know whether Zahard is a given name or a surname. If Zahard is a surname we don't know whether he came from culture which put surname on the front or at the back.

 

[zoradante1]

Big Whoop Baam absorbed White’s power! What great feat did 2nd generation slayer White ever accomplish? What strong opponents has he beaten now and back then??? I can answer that for you absolutely 0

What exactly jinsung had accomplished then? Getting his butt beaten by kallavan? Sure. White at the very least fought on the equal grounds with kallavan and was the first and only person who pushed kallavan to defense rather than offense.

Yet this white got toyed and got his butt beaten by baam while baam didn't even go all out. (Thorn stab) Baam was already much stronger than a white while not going all out, who was stronger than jinsung.

And now he absorbed both white and levi,i think a argument like baam vs jinsung shouldn't even discussed,since it's clear he is likely to beat jinsung within few seconds at best while he is likely to oneshot jinsung. He is being humble in here,sly. It's being respectful to seniors as juniors in chinese novels i've read. You understand right? Plus baam is literally the worst source,person when it comes to judge a person's strength. He even let maschenny play the role of boss since he has one cell in his one pixel brain.

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Lol but you witnessed it’s power on FoD right? Urek was unable to use shinsu! Can Levi do anything close to that lol????

So? by your statements, you are saying red t is greater than levi because it was able to make Urek not being capable of using shinsu, if that's your argument then red t is much greater than urek. While urek squashed him like a bug with %10 casual punch without shinsu or shinsu enchanment and no technique either. I have no doubt while levi might not squash red t like urek did,he would still show us how minor god squash a bug.

Plus baam didn't even feel absolutely anything when absorbing red t while on the other hand he was scared of levi's power which shows us levi is many levels ahead of red t. Red t isn't even a proper admin piece or admin's baby. Since it's just a small organisma of dead admin's body. Hence it was scared of blue t(which i'm guessing a real admin piece rather than a organisma)

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The only thing he can't copy, so far, is arie fencing.

If i remember correctly,only he can't copy special techniques which can't be done without a required bloodline like khun spearmanship,arie swordmanship. Though there was a big breeder who tried to copy khun spearmanship without khun bloodline since it's linked to their special shinsu quality,his spearmanship wasn't even worth in Data Asensio's eyes much less Khun eduan. Though baam is obviously different from big breeder since he is obviously irregular and is free from rules of tower, he still can't copy them fully unless he takes a power of their family like how he got white's power and was able to copy Arie swordmanship and was even better than Hoaqin at using it. SIU also said Baam is unable to copy special abilities like Arie swordmanship. Though i think it might change if he absorbs their power.

It's quite likely cobalt's ability is a special one,though i might be wrong.

Aside from this he can copy anything,like going all judos of tower and getting hit by their techniques which SIU doesn't do it since he wants 3 baby together again. Baam has talent wise has so much potential but SIU just knowingly doesn't want baam to get stronger and make him a princess in front of whole tower. And he even made us forgot about his ability to copy techniques and even combine them into one like he did againist daniel at hell train arc(combined numerous of martial techniques into one) It's literally combining everything in order to destroy every technique's weakness. Baam potentially can create stronger techniques than even Khun spearmanship,Arie swordmanship,Ari needlemanship but our SIU doesn't want to do it or forgot again like he does everytime.

 

[O_n_Sly]

So? by your statements, you are saying red t is greater than levi because it was able to make Urek not being capable of using shinsu, if that's your argument then red t is much greater than urek. While urek squashed him like a bug with %10 casual punch without shinsu or shinsu enchanment and no technique either. I have no doubt while levi might not squash red t like urek did,he would still show us how minor god squash a bug.

Plus baam didn't even feel absolutely anything when absorbing red t while on the other hand he was scared of levi's power which shows us levi is many levels ahead of red t. Red t isn't even a proper admin piece or admin's baby. Since it's just a small organisma of dead admin's body. Hence it was scared of blue t(which i'm guessing a real admin piece rather than a organisma)

Baam never feared Levi, just acknowledged it’s dangerous LOL! RT is the power of an admin which is greater than Levi! RT has grown and has humanoid form (go back and check LOL) and will only continue to grow

 

[zoradante1]

Baam never feared Levi, just acknowledged it’s dangerous LOL! RT is the power of an admin which is greater than Levi! RT has grown and has humanoid form (go back and check LOL) and will only continue to grow

yeah,him fearing levi is a mistake in my part. But still it doesn't change my point. Even if red t has greater potential than levi,currently levi is much greater. Baam didn't even feel red t entering him,though it might be because red t was squashed by urek and hence was weak,but he should have grown since then,but baam still doesn't even know he has red t inside him. On the other hand he was aware of levi entering his body and was amazed of it's power and even declared as dangerous,so it still doesn't prove my point is wrong.

Currently levi is likely to be many levels ahead of red t, which we saw at floor of death though it might have grown since then we don't know how strong it is. And red t of floor death was squashed by urek who used only his %10 physical strength while throwing a casual punch,since serious urek would be hundreds of times stronger with %100 physical strength + physical shinsu enchanment + shinsu + techniques or so on,levi should be stronger since it was confident on dragging traum down the abyss,someone who is definitely much weaker than urek but is still on the league of Urek

 

[Jack Van Burace]

yeah,him fearing levi is a mistake in my part. But still it doesn't change my point. Even if red t has greater potential than levi,currently levi is much greater. Baam didn't even feel red t entering him,though it might be because red t was squashed by urek and hence was weak,but he should have grown since then,but baam still doesn't even know he has red t inside him. On the other hand he was aware of levi entering his body and was amazed of it's power and even declared as dangerous,so it still doesn't prove my point is wrong.

Currently levi is likely to be many levels ahead of red t, which we saw at floor of death though it might have grown since then we don't know how strong it is. And red t of floor death was squashed by urek who used only his %10 physical strength while throwing a casual punch,since serious urek would be hundreds of times stronger with %100 physical strength + physical shinsu enchanment + shinsu + techniques or so on,levi should be stronger since it was confident on dragging traum down the abyss,someone who is definitely much weaker than urek but is still on the league of Urek

Levi can't be defeated by Traumerei, that's one important point. We saw RT being beaten by Urek, but Traum had to seal Levi cause he couldn't kill or control it. It might also be the child of an admin, just like the Thryssas. We don't know yet, and maybe only time will show wth are they all.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Levi can't be defeated by Traumerei, that's one important point. We saw RT being beaten by Urek, but Traum had to seal Levi cause he couldn't kill or control it. It might also be the child of an admin, just like the Thryssas. We don't know yet, and maybe only time will show wth are they all.

Only thing that has been said is Traum cannot tame Levi!

 

[kkck]

Levi can't be defeated by Traumerei, that's one important point. We saw RT being beaten by Urek, but Traum had to seal Levi cause he couldn't kill or control it. It might also be the child of an admin, just like the Thryssas. We don't know yet, and maybe only time will show wth are they all.

We don't know that traumerei is unable to destroy leviathan. The series only makes the point that traumerei was unable to dominate it but there's no reference of him being unable to kill or defeat it. Based on the beastkin flashback all we can infer is that traumerei sealed it and occasionally he showed up to try and dominate it. I think it's unlikely the leviathan comes from admins for two reasons:

1.- It mentioned that traumerei birthed him. We don't know what this means but this makes admin influence less likely at least. I suppose the leviathan could potentially be unkillable but if it ended up sealed then it's not a stretch that it got defeated somehow to begin with. It's feasible at least...
2.- No one has mentioned the leviathan's power feeling like an admin's. You'd think bam would bring it up at least.

 

[aidkim]

Levi can't be defeated by Traumerei, that's one important point. We saw RT being beaten by Urek, but Traum had to seal Levi cause he couldn't kill or control it. It might also be the child of an admin, just like the Thryssas. We don't know yet, and maybe only time will show wth are they all.

I wouldn't say those are the only options. He might just really want it and is willing to wait or something happened between them and Rei can't bring himself to kill the Leviathan. Not saying it's weak or anything, but those are more probable options imo.

 

[kkck]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something. Earlier when we saw perseus and pudily talking the point was made that if the warp gates broke while someone was travelling they would be stuck in the middle area... But this seemed random to me. I figured it could be a wonkoy translation. but this chapter confirms this refers to the actual middle are of the tower, thus also being a viable and risky exit strategy. High rankers being indefinitely lost in the middle are seems... extreme? They are all incredibly powerful and can move at extreme speeds. You'd think at some point they should be able to move out of there. That said, the gang should have a way to handle this. They have hwa ryun there hence also the capacity to navigate the middle area. This is also a situation where fate shenanigans could play a hand and perhaps the gang will end up somewhere where they are needed rather than somewhere random.

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Lefav seems like she should be in an insane amount of trouble... She has used both of her shots and taken damage from at least lyborick. It's hard to see how she can still go tbh, specially if her current fighting capacity should be beneath a ranker's. I think doom should turn her into a canine to give her a boost. AND the canines would end up with the best sniper in the tower as a slave basically.

 

[paulbee]

I wonder, has there been anywhere in the series when Bam was outright defeated by an opponent? I am not certain, now I am wondering what specifically does Traumerei want from Bam, and why is SIU seemingly forcing a fight between Traumerei and Bam at this juncture?

Does anyone of you recall an occasion where Urek was asking Bam what he recalls about the outside of the Tower? Again, are the Irregulars trapped in the Tower and are some of them seeking information that could assist their escape from the Tower? Could Traumerei be looking for such types of information from Bam? Maybe the rest of the irregulars seek an alternate way to leave the Tower that doesn't involve fighting Zahard? Could this be what Traumerei is after?

On another note, I don't think Bam is truly ready to defeat Traumeiri without any assistance. The Main Problem with Bam is that his power sources are to faractioned, split up, and he (spurred on by white) has only just begun to contemplate merging all his fractioned power sources, I just don't think he's perfected this merging to where he can fight and win against a family head. Traumeiri with his millenia of experience has gotten just too great a lead ahead of Bam in using own his assets to fight for him to easily lose to Bam at this point. I think the fight will end as a stalemate.

Well there are two possible wild cards that might come to Bam's aid, 1) Gustang... I can imagine Gustang's hatred for Traumeiri is pretty big right now. 2) Urek. It would be just too much to expect players like Enryu or Phanta to show up at this stage.

One last thought, seeing the appearance of Khun Devo Perez (yet another Khun powerhouse, is making me think that there's still a chance that big Daddy Khun Eduan really has a hand in this stuff somehow.

 

[DeadCosmos]

Traumerei obvious can beat leviathan, he sealed it! you dont just seal something without beating it. Leviathan with firefish would probably beat traumerei though.

I wonder, has there been anywhere in the series when Bam was outright defeated by an opponent

beta, jinsung too and maybe even the stone golem, maybe love too.

 

[O_n_Sly]

So Nanatano says the bomb is a person not a thing!!! My guess is it is Hybridder!

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The new t/l is much much better LOL! Yama is right about Rapid a chapter ago it was right in front of him larger than life, now it is far back and much smaller!!!

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Wow Lyb’s flagship is pretty close to the entrance of the tunnel and you see the 2nd wall right behind the ship! I love how SIU gives us a proximity of how far Traum can feel presence from! The real question now is where the hell is the CAT TOWER???

 

[nivoxtc]

Only thing that has been said is Traum cannot tame Levi!

It's been said.

Levi can't be killed as long as he feels hatred, and his hatred is fed by Traumerei, and as long as Treumerei is alive(the source of his hatred), he is literally immortal.

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[SuperTurtle]

I wonder, has there been anywhere in the series when Bam was outright defeated by an opponent?

Love, Urek, Karaka, the Big Breader, Data Jahad, Charlie, Kallavan, sleeping Yama, Doom, White.

 

[paulbee]

Love, Urek, Karaka, the Big Breader, Data Jahad, Charlie, Kallavan, sleeping Yama, Doom, White.

By outright defeat, I mean Beaten down so he couldn't walk away.

 

[SuperTurtle]

By outright defeat, I mean Beaten down so he couldn't walk away.

Love, Urek, the Big Breader, Data Jahad, Charlie, Kallavan, Doom, White and Rachel (twice)