Chapter Tower of God Chapter 538 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter[by alpha scans]----
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And then we have Jyu Viole Grace and Urek Mazzino with their family name at the end.

Don't look too much in the structure of the names guys.
We actually know very little about Vee. Is that his First name, his last name, or even maybe a nickname. Though I like your thought pattern, its quite possible that Vee's full name could be Jyue Vee
 

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After closer review, Yama is not talking about Rapid, he’s talking about Traum moving further back and that only begins to take place after Yas regenerates himself! Holan and Purdi too are retreating but due to fear and leading Baam into a trap! IDK if Traum fears Yas but he’s luring him into a trap, crazy that Yama of all people noticed!
 

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If a Twin is her mother why not just tell her then?!?!
Regardless of who the mother is, her identity is kept secret as she won't want to risk her reputation by being revealed to had relationship with courtesan. Note that the father said there was no way to find out who the mother is.
 

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We actually know very little about Vee. Is that his First name, his last name, or even maybe a nickname. Though I like your thought pattern, its quite possible that Vee's full name could be Jyue Vee
V doesn't matter here. It is not Grace Jyu Viole. And people call his mother Arlene Grace and not Grace Arlene.
As for V, maybe he is like Jahad, only one name.
 

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V doesn't matter here. It is not Grace Jyu Viole. And people call his mother Arlene Grace and not Grace Arlene.
As for V, maybe he is like Jahad, only one name.
Lo Po Bia Traumerei was also not known to have its "Traumerei" part before recently.
 

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I think that is reverse what you think but it's up to you if you interpret that like that.
What I take is if traum fears yas, yas can close in to traum, like when he fights yama, when yama fears yas, he can close in to yama without effort and humilited yama.
And what I interpret about what yama talk is how much effort they are try to close in to traum the shinheuh made them backward further away from traum.
Notice how Rapid/Traum back up further throughout the entire chapter! Why is that?
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Regardless of who the mother is, her identity is kept secret as she won't want to risk her reputation by being revealed to had relationship with courtesan. Note that the father said there was no way to find out who the mother is.
That makes no sense unless it is Yurin, he’s known within the Ha House for what he does with High Ranking Ha women!!!
 

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Yama said itself that he can't close to that thing, not because the shinheuhs backward but the shinheuhs made them backward further away, for me it is irrational if the shot from the rapid made rapid backward, and from what I see there is not indicate a slighty move from the floating ship that carry traum made a move backward, the one who move forward is the shinheuns to fill the gap between them.
1st panel has no transport, then next they are right on top of the transport, then the last panel Traum and rapid are way behind the transport and now kraken is on the transport!
 
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look at how big the shinheuh are, ofcourse they gonna get pushed back. It is a matter of perspective and relativity, with how small yama and yasratcha are, they will move much farther back while shinheuh barely move.
 

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Hold UP wait a minute!!! What if Levi was the trap! What if Traum/Mas want Baam to devour Levi? Traum’s eyes have the green slash in them signaling they are active!
Levi did say he could take over Baam!
 

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Hold UP wait a minute!!! What if Levi was the trap! What if Traum/Mas want Baam to devour Levi? Traum’s eyes have the green slash in them signaling they are active!
Levi did say he could take over Baam!
good theory, but we saw what levi was thinking in his mind, and it was nothing sinister.
 

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I expect everyone on Baam's side is going to tell Baam to run away next chapter, or next 3 chapters probably.
Only if they're monumentally stupid enough to imagine that he even could, considering who the opponent is and how he plucked Baam in from halfway across the conbat zone to begin with.
 

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Hold UP wait a minute!!! What if Levi was the trap! What if Traum/Mas want Baam to devour Levi? Traum’s eyes have the green slash in them signaling they are active!
Levi did say he could take over Baam!
I doubt that they knew about this ability of Baam. Mascheny didn't know what was in the suspendium(most likely), and Traumerei didn't even see Baam once, until the last chapter.

And even if they did (which I believe is 1% chance), there is no way that they expected that Baam could devour such a powerful monster as Leviathan.
 

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So why do Traumerei want to meet Baam?
My suspicion is that Traumeiri wants to find out if Bam knows a way to escape from the Tower. Theoretically, the only person documented to have left the Tower was Arlene, and she took dead Baby Bam with her. It follows that if Bam had a relationship with Arlene he might have learnt from her a method of leaving. Outside of Arlene's method, the Top of the Tower (which could have lead to the outside has been sealed by Zahard.

Speaking of an upcoming battle Bam vs Trameirei:

Bam's big stick is not Levi, its the Thorn. Previously Bam had never been able to utilize the Thorn to its greatest potential, but now he has Leviathan's power, which when added to the two Thrysas, might jolly well grant him enough power to injure Tram or force him to retreat.
 

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Mas is fully aware that Traum had arrived, but makes no mention of it to Baam. She agrees to help them even though they brought her nothing then she sends Baam towards Traum with a BS 20minute timer!!! Come on now
 

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V doesn't matter here. It is not Grace Jyu Viole. And people call his mother Arlene Grace and not Grace Arlene.
As for V, maybe he is like Jahad, only one name.
Somehow Arlene just doesn't sound right as a last name (nothing precludes SIU from breaking the trend), same goes for Urek Mazino versus Mazino Urek, Urek sounds fitting for a first name.
 
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That makes no sense unless it is Yurin, he’s known within the Ha House for what he does with High Ranking Ha women!!!
Your brain doesn't make sense. Is president the only powerful politician in a country that need to protect their reputation? No, even legislative members need to protect theirs. Even the twins, granddaughters, need to protect their reputation, if they tarnish the family, they might have to face the terible wrath of Yurin.
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might jolly well grant him enough power to injure Tram or force him to retreat.
It is interesting to watch how a being that have not been injured for tens of thousand years react to being injured.
 

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It is interesting to watch how a being that have not been injured for tens of thousand years react to being injured.
Quite so. Bam using a souped up, Levi+Red T/Blue T+ Souls powered Thorn to Injure Traum, with a Look of surprise etched on his face, hah hah, I do hope SIU makes it happen.
 

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Your brain doesn't make sense. Is president the only powerful politician in a country that need to protect their reputation? No, even legislative members need to protect theirs. Even the twins, granddaughters, need to protect their reputation, if they tarnish the family, they might have to face the terible wrath of Yurin.
LMFAO wrath of Yurin? Reputation in who’s eyes Lol?!?! JH joined FUG and annihilated a whole branch! Where was that wrath then LOL? Yuri has been a FUG accomplice since HT! Yura Ha’s mother gave birth to cursed children!
And you going to tell me having a child with a famous courtesan is damning, LMFAO!
 

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famous courtesan
Lowly courtesan is what her father claimed to be. Seriously, read the translated chapter via official webtoon! Her father literally said he is a lowly courtesan. He is never regarded as famous, the only thing mentioned is that he accumulated wealth by giving services to high ranking member, even then his client keep her identity secret, indicating that association with him is infamy.

Ha Yura was hunted before she gain fame. Once she gain fame, they cannot hunt her as killing famous person will surely get noticed and it will tarnish the family reputation. Note that her mother returned to the family and ended up dead.

Ha Jinsung is too strong for most other family members. Hunting him means sacrificing a lot of family members. If Ha Yurin herself got involved, it will be embarassment as it beneath her and will show the incompetence of the family.

It is interesting that you mention Yuri as it will lead to the discussion back on topic:

Yuri is involved with Baam. A lot of FH seems to be interested in Baam, having Yuri is a leverage for Ha Family. Even Traumerei want to get an audience with Baam. Family head who keep seating and refuse to greet multiple Zahard Army CC suddenly stand up to greet FUG slayer nominee. How does that sound? Even Khun family send high ranking members to gain access to Baam. They even go as far as sending Khun Devon Perez to defuse the bomb at Cat Tower which trap Baam's friend even though Baam do not even realize it.
 
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LOL @Yelnats you said the twins will get the wrath of Yurin but not JH because he’s too strong WTF???
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I do not give a damn what her father said about himself being lowly! He was saying w/e possible to get his daughter in with the fam, it’s called being a parent! Yas is a CC of the RoZA army yet Traum called him a lowly.
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And learn how to read LOL! Cheonhee’s fb literally starts with her saying her dad was a famous courtesan that pleased high ranking women in the Ha only. High ranking women ain’t messing around with a lowly LOL
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Ha Jinsung is too strong for most other family members. Hunting him means sacrificing a lot of family members. If Ha Yurin herself got involved, it will be embarassment as it beneath her and will show the incompetence of the family.
WTF are you saying here! Traum had 2 BHs executed in Yas’ fb for fighting LOL! So how the hell will Yurin be embarrassed for checking JH LOL??? The family already looked incompetent when JH destroyed a branch and went unchecked!!!
 
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