Chapter Tower of God Chapter 538 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

@Demonspeed @Lady pompom


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Translated chapter[by alpha scans]----

Tower of God Chapter 538 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[lazybum]

Cheonhee's father is lowly, he said so himself. He's just a courtesan, a high class prostitute but a prostitute nonetheless (in most civilization prostitutes aren't highly regarded). He is in a lower position than the ranked Ha women (even ranked men probably), that's why the father had to beg on his knees so his daughter can pursue her dream (he doesn't talk as an equal). As for Cheonhee's mother, I don't know why it would be one of the twin necessarily. A Ranker Ha woman is already a high class woman compared to a courtesan. It could be any -/Advanced/High Ranker Ha woman that birthed Cheonhee.

Anyways, Yas asked himself just how many monsters Traumerei has (referring to the dragon I suppose). Like shouldn't it be obvious to him? Like it seems to be common knowledge that Traumerei control 7 beasts, 3 of which are dragons. Does he implies Traumerei has some hidden kaiju beyond the known 23?

 

[Yelnats]

LOL @Yelnats you said the twins will get the wrath of Yurin but not JH because he’s too strong WTF???

JH flee from the family, he is a fugitive. He would be punished if he is captured (but heis relation with Baam could be a leverage).

I don't necessarily said the Ha twins. Even floor ruler is a high position.

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Cheonhee’s fb literally starts with her saying her dad was a famous courtesan

Okay he was famous but courtesan job is considered lowly, a bad thing. Famous for bad thing = infamous.

That is why Cheonhee's mother went as far as concealing her identity even from Cheonhee's father. They had no way to find her identity.

WTF are you saying here! Traum had 2 BHs executed in Yas’ fb for fighting LOL!

Wtf are you saying? Yas clearly said that Traum should not be troubled by such matter, LPB Kirin also said that Traum do not need to pay attention to such matter and that he will take care of it. Such matter are beneath FH, and it is family members job to ensure that FH do not need to personally deal with it.

If Ha Yurin had to personally deal with FUG members, FUG will become famous, tower residents will start to think that Ha Family members are incompetent against FUG that their FH has to personally deal with it herself.

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Anyways, Yas asked himself just how many monsters Traumerei has (referring to the dragon I suppose). Like shouldn't it be obvious to him? Like it seems to be common knowledge that Traumerei control 7 beasts, 3 of which are dragons. Does he implies Traumerei has some hidden kaiju beyond the known 23?

Probably the number is not known by most of the TOG characters but is known to readers (us) because SIU stated it to us.

 

[DeadCosmos]

If I had to guess, 43 animals Traumerei controls!

 

[Yelnats]

If I had to guess, 43 animals Traumerei controls!

Do we count Yas's late cat in the list?

 

[DeadCosmos]

Do we count Yas's late cat in the list?

nope

 

[Cinera]

Nope, if two family normally put surname at the front and someone who descend from both family put one at the front and one at the back, it means the main family is the one put at the front. As both family happen to be patriachal, logical thinking would conclude that the main family put at front is the patrilineal ancestor.

No, that's silly and stupid. Enne was born into the Po Bidau Family (a patriarchal Family), and not only is "Po Bidau" not at the front of her name, it's not in her name at all.

Your rule is bullshit, made up on the spot and has zero evidence for it. There's not even any indication that "patriachal" or "matriarchal" factors into the naming conventions of Great Families.

Nb: LPB Ha Satcha doesn't descend from LPB family

She still bears the Lo Po Bia name. And she bears it at the front of her name, before her birth Family.

Again, your rule is bullshit. It has zero evidence for it. The only other two examples of Great Family Hybrids whose names we know don't follow your rule.

 

[Yelnats]

No, that's silly and stupid. Enne was born into the Po Bidau Family (a patriarchal Family), and not only is "Po Bidau" not at the front of her name, it's not in her name at all.

You cannot compare it with Enne as both of her parents are FH. She can chose what she like and given that PBD force him to become a princess, it is understandable that she side with her mother.

Lyborick at most only have one FH as a parent, and that FH who is his parent will have first option to put his surname on the front of Lyborick name.

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Your rule is bullshit, made up on the spot and has zero evidence for it. There's not even any indication that "patriachal" or "matriarchal" factors into the naming conventions of Great Families.

What even more bullshit is the one which claim Khun Eduan to be his dad just because his name contain Khun. There is no rule that said only Eduan children can bear Khun name.

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She still bears the Lo Po Bia name. And she bears it at the front of her name, before her birth Family.

Again, your rule is bullshit. It has zero evidence for it. The only other two examples of Great Family Hybrids whose names we know don't follow your rule.

Rule depends on the culture of the family. That is common sense anywhere in the world. Each family can have different rule.

So what you want LPB Ha Satcha to do? She was born Ha Satcha, do you want to force her to move her Ha surename to the back end? LPB surname is put at the front for every adopted member. As her name originally Ha Satcha, putting LPB at the front result in Lo Po Bia Ha Satcha.

It reminds me how I was told that my theory was bullshit when I claimed that Lo Po Bia Ha Satcha is a member of both Ha Family and Lo Po Bia Family. They said the Ha cannot mean Ha Family because that would be 2 surename at the front. Turned out my theory which was branded as bullshit was right, she is indeed a member of both Ha and LPB family.

 

[Ignorant]

No, that's silly and stupid. Enne was born into the Po Bidau Family (a patriarchal Family), and not only is "Po Bidau" not at the front of her name, it's not in her name at all.

Your rule is bullshit, made up on the spot and has zero evidence for it. There's not even any indication that "patriachal" or "matriarchal" factors into the naming conventions of Great Families.



She still bears the Lo Po Bia name. And she bears it at the front of her name, before her birth Family.

Again, your rule is bullshit. It has zero evidence for it. The only other two examples of Great Family Hybrids whose names we know don't follow your rule.

Right lets say she preffer eurasia
I imagine Gustang being the strict father and she hating it lol is not that deep. @Yelnats

 

[Yelnats]

Right lets say she preffer eurasia
I imagine Gustang being the strict father and she hating it lol is not that deep. @Yelnats

When your father told you that he had put you in an arranged marriage between you and the King (with your mother's ultimate disapproval as she want you to have a freedom of choice, your mother ended up separating with your father because of it and you have to chose between them, yet you still have to go ahead with the arranged marriage regardless of who you chose to follow), and as it turn out, the marriage is not guaranteed, you still have to compete with others and if you fail, there is no turning back, you will have to become a virgin for life.

 

[Agarez]

and a half teacher (Hansung)

this is something.... Hansung was capture but this chapter he was jogging around freely for the world

 

[sazon]

Anyways, Yas asked himself just how many monsters Traumerei has (referring to the dragon I suppose). Like shouldn't it be obvious to him? Like it seems to be common knowledge that Traumerei control 7 beasts, 3 of which are dragons. Does he implies Traumerei has some hidden kaiju beyond the known 23?

By the alpha translation, the sea dragons are out of the 23 kaijuu.

Rei have several powerful beasts such as spirit beasts such as dobo's father

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Ha, Yeon and Eurasia are matriarchal families, women have superior status by nature, it's much simpler for you to choose the maternal family in these cases, not to mention we don't know anything about Enne's relationship with her parents other than Blossom's opposition.

It doesn't make any sense for Lyborick to be Eduan's son and have Po Bidau as his main surname.

And honestly, it looks like this week you guys are vying to see who's more boring with nonsense theories.

 

[Big-Bird]

Ha, Yeon and Eurasia are matriarchal families, women have superior status by nature,

in fact the blog post that talks about the matriarchal status of the Yeon family only includes the Ha family with it, so the Eurassia family would not be matriarchal

Like the Ha Family, the Yeon Family is a thoroughly matriarchal (mother-centered) family, so males can take central roles in neither the main house or the branch house of the Family. Thanks to this, the females of the Yeon Family, especially those of the main house, have a tendency to look down on men.
Hana blog

 

[O_n_Sly]

And honestly, it looks like this week you guys are vying to see who's more boring with nonsense theories.

Alright then let’s discuss Traum’s skill and beast! Cobalt is not a apart of the 23! If anything he’s a Furry, Traum calls him by name and orders him around!
Finn Harp unlike the other 6 is an obedient beast and protects Traum. Rapid and Kraken are under a spell not Traum’s anima control! The Kitty and Yas’ eyes never changed when he controlled them, only the green slash appeared! The green slash is currently in Traum’s eyes while talking to Baam!

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Here’s another Naruto-like connection- Traum is almost like Pain! Controls 7 beast, the green horseshoe in kraken and rapid’s eye could be his way of seeing the entire battlefield!

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Maybe the deal with surnames is way simpler: the status of the parent decides whose name comes first. So no matter if they are Ha or Eurasia or Khun, if the parent of that family had a higher status, their name comes first. And Jahad's by standard comes last, because they are borrowed, and not real daughters.

 

[O_n_Sly]

I can see why SIU is taking soo long with this arc, he’s having too much fun with anima thing

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Alright then let’s discuss Traum’s skill and beast! Cobalt is not a apart of the 23! If anything he’s a Furry, Traum calls him by name and orders him around!
Finn Harp unlike the other 6 is an obedient beast and protects Traum. Rapid and Kraken are under a spell not Traum’s anima control! The Kitty and Yas’ eyes never changed when he controlled them, only the green slash appeared! The green slash is currently in Traum’s eyes while talking to Baam!

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Here’s another Naruto-like connection- Traum is almost like Pain! Controls 7 beast, the green horseshoe in kraken and rapid’s eye could be his way of seeing the entire battlefield!

Maybe he only needs the green horseshoe on very powerfull beings. Or Fandore Harpe is blind, and thus his eyes show nothing.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Maybe he only needs the green horseshoe on very powerfull beings. Or Fandore Harpe is blind, and thus his eyes show nothing.

MO Kraken and Rapid are being controlled against their wills! So if Yama could roar like WW he could break the spell on them! I’m not saying they’d help but they’d cause a stir!

 

[Ignorant]

MO Kraken and Rapid are being controlled against their wills! So if Yama could roar like WW he could break the spell on them! I’m not saying they’d help but they’d cause a stir!

Yama probably need the third fang for that..

 

[Jack Van Burace]

MO Kraken and Rapid are being controlled against their wills! So if Yama could roar like WW he could break the spell on them! I’m not saying they’d help but they’d cause a stir!

That's a nice theory. Levi + Roar would certainly trouble Traumerei a bit, enough for everyone to escape.

 

[DeadCosmos]

MO Kraken and Rapid are being controlled against their wills! So if Yama could roar like WW he could break the spell on them! I’m not saying they’d help but they’d cause a stir!

Agreed, this would make it much more possible for FUG to defeat Traumerei. Especially with his own shinheuh attacking him!