Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
  • Poll closed .

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- Zahard doesn't actually care about the fate of the princesses, only saving face by not having those go against the rules of the princesses
- in any event, Rei strongly implies that Zahard gives his blessing for the twins to be used in such a manner in this super-special case, demoting their status as princesses in the process
zahard definitely does not care about the pricesses' well being or anything of the sort. but the implication remains that zahard does care about princesses and his blood spreading.

the princesses losing their status is a very weird plot point. if someone said this was possible yesterday i would have called bs... unless a beheading counts as being demoted. imagine the other family heads also pulling this crap.
 

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Surprisingly I think Ari is in the camp of kill, to preserve peace I think he's willing to kill 1 person to save millions/billions of other. Hon on another hand may be interested in how Baam will turn out, so I'd say he's neutral, despite being Zahard's servant.
Nah Sharon is an outlier! EVK was surprised to see her on the battlefield and from what she about the family they are not big on fighting at all!!!
 

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zahard definitely does not care about the pricesses' well being or anything of the sort. but the implication remains that zahard does care about princesses and his blood spreading.

the princesses losing their status is a very weird plot point. if someone said this was possible yesterday i would have called bs... unless a beheading counts as being demoted. imagine the other family heads also pulling this crap.
It seems Zahard is allowing the rules to be bent for Baam, who is an extreme outlier in being an irregular/child o' prophecy.

For 99.9999% of the tower, there is to be no marrying or mating with princesses. But it seems according to Rei, Zahard has signed off on it.
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Don't mind if I do.
 

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This could change, but MO for now is that everyone that joins the RoZA ranks from great families do so because they disagree with their family values/beliefs!
 

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Phew, so we're finally in the Zahard Cucking Arc Princess Impregnation Arc Princess Arc.
I don't think their appearance foretells the Princess Arc. See this post:
SIU said that they would be the key to one of the two big upcoming story arcs, he did not specify that he meant the Princess Arc. Seeing that Traumerei mentions them in the context of his proposal for Baam, the arc that SIU was talking about is probably not the "Princess Arc". It seems it may be the Nest or a follow up to it. More of the Lo Po Bia Family's story, not the Zahard Family's story.
Also, SIU has said that Yuri will be the focus of the Princess Arc. Baam marrying the Lo Po Bia twins has nothing to do with Yuri's story.


Discord by Pajaka :

Traumerei: Thankfully, we do have quite a few amount of girls of excellent quality in our family. // I heard two of them were selected as Zahard's princess. That spot is an honorable position indeed, but it is more than worth to give it up if it was for a marriage with you. // Now then- // I would like to officially propose you an option here. // Marry the daughter of our family and become a member of the Lo Po Bia family.

Baam: ... Pardon?

Traumerei: Join our family, // And become 'mine'. // That is my proposal.
Based SIU. What an absolute Chad.
 

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I knew it was way way way too early to even entertain baam v traum, just hope we learn alot before gustang ot luslec saves the day
Can Luslec do anything really? Also, to finally show an irregular and make him be contested somehow by a regular? I'm not feeling it
 

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Yes and no.

They are still subordinates.

Read again about how Rei talks about Zahard in the chapter trans. Rei pointedly calls Zahard his king, showing at least some level of subordination, and says if Zahard says to jump he will say 'how high?' (but only if he says)
Yes but we also know Gustang doesn’t give a shit. So some are more loyal and some are openly against him and defy him more.
 

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I don't think their appearance foretells the Princess Arc. See this post:

Also, SIU has said that Yuri will be the focus of the Princess Arc. Baam marrying the Lo Po Bia twins has nothing to do with Yuri's story.



Based SIU. What an absolute Chad.
Unless it's Yuri busting in during the part of the ceremony with the "speak now or forever hold your peace..." part.
 

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I wonder if Urek got a similar proposal...

Still waiting for Baam to ask about Grace and V though. And if Lo Po Bia is trying to take Baam, I don't see Mircea standing around any more.
 

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Bam has to refuse, the whole point of this was to take over FUG, becoming Traums subordinate (tho with good perks) defeats everything they've done here.
 

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Yes but we also know Gustang doesn’t give a shit. So some are more loyal and some are openly against him and defy him more.
I mean, I agree. Gustang says as much his feelings that Zahard isn't a true king or something to that effect.

Doesn't really change my point though. He worked FOR Zahard and kept his trap shut for unknown thousands of years, until Baam came in the tower.

Why? Because he couldn't do anything about Zahard during that time. He had to act like a subordinate.



Zahard has the special contract making him a king, none of the other FH's do. That alone is proof they aren't on equal footing. But, we also know the strongest FH, Arie Hon, tested Zahard's strength and lost back to back to back to back. Thus, even without the kingly contract, Zahard is stronger than them all one-on-one. But, he's not only the strongest, he's... the king.

Even Gustang who is defying Zahard has to account for his kingly contract in putting his weight behind Baam (and possibly Rachel in some unknown way).
 

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Rei is offering submittion .

I also want to remind you , that Baam never was really afraid to face far stronger ennemie .
When it's just his own life on the line, he's not afraid. He's terrified to risk the lives of others. In fact, he has already submitted once (to FUG) under those conditions.
 

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Zahard is the literal, de facto, knighted KING of the tower. That much is inarguable.

If a FH defies Zahard, they are defying a king, and thus are turning on their boss. They might not see his as such (or a false king, a la Arlen), but he's still the king nonetheless, while they aren't.

He's also the strongest among them.

So.... yes and no.
Zahard is the official king .

In fact Gustang called him a self proclaimed king .

Do we have any idea how much off them consider himself a king ? In fact what does a king even mean for a irregular ?

Who made Zahard a king ? Would have zahard been king if it wasn't for those irregular accepting it ? Doesn't that mean that if they don't aknowledge him he isn't a king ?

Zahard power is shaky and it doesn't matter if people recognize him as king , what matter is if the FH recognize him as king because they are 10 irregular , so basically Zahard legitimacy stand on whether those irregulars accept him or not .

If they don't , what will happen ? The competition for the next king .

That is why despite Zahard cursing native one tribe because he felt a treath from them according to you , killing baby baam he couldn't move that much to kill Baam .

Because like this chapter show Zahard , " the king " couldn't move because off his comrade other irregular .
 

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Zahard is the official king .

no one knighted him a king .

In fact Gustang called him a self proclaimed king .

Do we have any idea how much off them consider himself a king ? In fact what does a king even mean for a irregular ?

Who made Zahard a king ? Would have zahard been king if it wasn't for those irregular accepting it ? Doesn't that mean that if they don't aknowledge him he isn't a king ?

Zahard power is shaky and it doesn't matter if people recognize him as king , what matter is if the FH recognize him as king because they are 10 irregular , so basically Zahard legitimacy stand on whether those irregulars accept him or not .

If they don't , what will happen ? The competition for the next king .

That is why despite Zahard cursing native one tribe because he felt a treath from them according to you , killing baby baam he couldn't move that much to kill Baam .

Because like this chapter show Zahard , " the king " couldn't move because off his comrade other irregular .
Go back to ToG 101 - Zahard was made king with a special contract. The admin of the tower, that's who.
 

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Somehow, but Baam going with Rei might not be a bad thing. It would be pretty interesting to see things how great families run things through Baam's eyes. Since the beginning, we've only seen the world through anti-Zahard's lens, but not the other side of the board.

Also, making the twins fell for Baam would be a way to spice their interaction with Endrossi, lol.

It's an ending where Jinsung is rescued, but Baam got nabbed instead.
 

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Also one thing to remember here about Traum - S3ch116 Yas says to Traum -“you still seem to have self-serving memory distortion”

I really can’t see other Great FHs saying - yah go ahead Traum, tame the child of prophecy and increase your family strength!!!
 

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Also one thing to remember here about Traum - S3ch116 Yas says to Traum -“you still seem to have self-serving memory distortion”

I really can’t see other Great FHs saying - yah go ahead Traum, tame the child of prophecy and increase your family strength!!!
Rei certainly remembers things the way he wants to with his selective memory, that's for sure.
 
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