Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
  • Poll closed .

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One simple thing that I don't think anyone noticed: Baam doesn't need wings to fly anymore, he's just like the rankers now.
I noticed it as well in the previous chapter, and I suppose that it's because of White's power absorption. Because Rak and Khun now can fly as well with no wings.
 

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"Lilial and Shilial hold the key to one of the two big upcoming story arcs so they appeared ahead of the power curve.
The specifics will be revealed in the later stories.
They both have strange names, but when you say their full names it actually works out.
I personally prefer Shilial over Lilial. She's easier to draw. Lilial's hard. Anyway, neither have shown much of themselves so keep an eye out for them
and also their relationship with Androssi.
"

I'm not sure what SIU meant that they are superior in the power curve, but I believe it's a way of saying that they have something special.

Before I thought that both were something like Troymerei's "masterpiece" in terms of genetic manipulation, but the way he talks about them is as if they have nothing to do with him, so I discarded the idea.

However, of ALL the women in the family, he spoke specifically of the twins, of course, it doesn't have to be exactly them, but they were the only ones worthy of mention by him, that in itself already says that they have something more.

That comment about Androssi always threw me into the princesses arc, I always imagined that the narrative would have 2 fronts, with Yuri on the ranker side and Androssi on the regular side, but with the mention of them here, I'm inclined to revive thinking about the theory of Androssi being LPB again.
 

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HJ does seem to be stronger than Pudidy, but eliminating a branch of the Ha family is not a justification for that.

Apparently each family deals with branches in a different way. For example, in LPB the BH are the main military force of the family, while in Koon the wives are the BH and we don't even know if they are rankers.
TBH, we don't actually know that the wives are the Branch Leaders in the Khun Family. That's just fanon.

The only actual Branch Leaders we've seen of the Khun Family is Asensio. While he may be an exception as he founded his own Faction/Branch, the available evidence supports the notion that the most powerful sons of Eduan are what forms the Branch Leaders.


AA told White that he had a connection to his Family's "Leaders":

Presumably, he was referring to the Branch Leaders of his Family here.


Said connection seems to be the older brother that assisted him on the Hell Train:



SIU said outright that AA was keeping a good relationship with a member of the Khun Family that was "quite powerful":
SIU's Gossips
2. Koon is keeping a good relationship with someone in Koon family who is quite powerful now.
Source

Asensio reinforced this by saying that AA was working with a "dangerous person":


So by all indications, AA's patron is one of the Branch Leaders of the Khun Family.


(A more complete treatment of the topic can be found in the below thread):


We're left with a situation in which the only confirmed and probable Branch Leaders of the Khun Family are sons of Eduan. The idea that the wives of the Khun Family lead Branches of the Family simply has zero basis.

The Khun Family is also a Family in which the Branches represent military units and the Branch Leaders are some of their strongest High Rankers.



As for the Lo Po Bia Family, separate from the Family Branches exists the "Lo Po Bia Army" and the "Main Family". These and not the Branches seem to constitute the main force of the Lo Po Bia Family (excluding the Family Leader).
 

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I noticed it as well in the previous chapter, and I suppose that it's because of White's power absorption. Because Rak and Khun now can fly as well with no wings.
Last chapter I thought it was because of Cobalt's power and in this one I confirmed it wasn't.

AA has wings, similar to white's, while Rank doesn't need it. Not least because Rak was never a regular.
 

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@Cinera you can’t be too pleased with this chapter! The real value of Jahad princesses just dropped!
How so? The very fact that Traumerei mentions it as a prestigious title shows how highly esteemed it is.


But, the flip-side is they don't dare, or can't, do certain activities that outright defy Zahard.

Hence, they are both subordinates and not.
I don't think so. I think each and every FH is freely able to at any time tell Zahard to get bent. And that's exactly what Gustang did. Zahard can of course retaliate, but that would be a war not summary destruction.

The Great Families are sovereign states within a larger Empire.
 

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TBH, we don't actually know that the wives are the Branch Leaders in the Khun Family. That's just fanon.

The only actual Branch Leaders we've seen of the Khun Family is Asensio. While he may be an exception as he founded his own Faction/Branch, the available evidence supports the notion that the most powerful sons of Eduan are what forms the Branch Leaders.


AA told White that he had a connection to his Family's "Leaders":

Presumably, he was referring to the Branch Leaders of his Family here.


Said connection seems to be the older brother that assisted him on the Hell Train:



SIU said outright that AA was keeping a good relationship with a member of the Khun Family that was "quite powerful":
SIU's Gossips

Source

Asensio reinforced this by saying that AA was working with a "dangerous person":


So by all indications, AA's patron is one of the Branch Leaders of the Khun Family.


(A more complete treatment of the topic can be found in the below thread):


We're left with a situation in which the only confirmed and probable Branch Leaders of the Khun Family are sons of Eduan. The idea that the wives of the Khun Family lead Branches of the Family simply has zero basis.

The Khun Family is also a Family in which the Branches represent military units and the Branch Leaders are some of their strongest High Rankers.



As for the Lo Po Bia Family, separate from the Family Branches exists the "Lo Po Bia Army" and the "Main Family". These and not the Branches seem to constitute the main force of the Lo Po Bia Family (excluding the Family Leader).
There is absolutely NOTHING that says BH Koon are their military strength. Absolutely nothing.

Asensio is already well regarded in the family because he created his own faction.

Eduan's wives fight for political power and we know that there is the wife of the main family, so it is much more logical to think that they control the branches.

The person AA works with is influential enough to override the influence of the person who "abandoned" him so it could very well be one of or the regent Koon.

And BH LPB were seen as the LPB family's own army, I don't know why you're creating a distinction here.
 

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Ok I'll bet the hostage is either Androssi, Rachel, or both (covering my bases).

I've thought for many years now (...wow!) that there will turn out to be a part of (secret) tower/princess lore and/or Arlene's prophecy that will make Baam getting paired off with a princess into an essential part of fulfilling the prophecy (and the tower's destiny).

Seeing Traumerei offering Baam one of the twins has me revisiting that idea and, frankly, it still seems plausible (...with me suspecting the narrative reason they're twins is to depersonalize-and-diffuse the eventual rejection and/or to let one die).

If nothing else, hearing talk of family heads butting heads over Baam makes me wonder if Maschenny really is going to try and hook Baam up with Maria. Didn't see that before but could see if it if we see ToG turn into "bachelor in the tower".
Rachel ? Impossible. She was a hostage the last time we saw her. She gain some major power ups. It would be a great letdown if we see her as a hostage once again. Androssi is also a huge take, because it could implied a major flashback (why and how he succeed in capturing her).

My guess is Yuri.

I always thought that Adori will be the princesss for Baam. When she was evoked after the events of the workshop/Fug arc.
 

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Rachel ? Impossible. She was a hostage the last time we saw her. She gain some major power ups. It would be a great letdown if we see her as a hostage once again. Androssi is also a huge take, because it could implied a major flashback (why and how he succeed in capturing her).

My guess is Yuri.
I don't think Rei has the balls to face Yurin holding Yuri hostage.
 

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Can we post link to the chapter 539 in youtube?
 

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Crazy how these clowns Purdi and Holan were able to feel levi at the moment he showed up but traumerei can’t.
Probably the excuse will be that they were too far away at the time, I think BS, but it's the most coherent.
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Now that I notice, HJ didn't just throw Pudidy away, Dobo went along. lmao

Ah, if only I had the eagle-owl...
 

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So when Traum mentions that ‘some’ encouraged him to tame Baam! I’m guessing Eduan is one of those some!
Someone was reminding Mas earlier of the alliance between their families!
 

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The Zahard princesses were created precisely for the purpose of giving Zahard a legitimate son because no one in the tower can withstand his power and we know he is different from the other 13GW.

Baam has the body of a child with 100% irregular genetics, was revived with the power of a god, has a monster inside him and is also an irregular and god knows what the thorn will do to him when it's complete.

So it is even debatable whether a revived body can procreate.
I always thought that “Zahard not being able to have a child” is some BS made up by him as a excuse to not have sex with anybody since he couldn’t get Arlene. If Wangnan is his son or w/e he is to him,that would prove that he can have children.
 

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I don't think so. I think each and every FH is freely able to at any time tell Zahard to get bent. And that's exactly what Gustang did. Zahard can of course retaliate, but that would be a war not summary destruction.

The Great Families are sovereign states within a larger Empire.
But here's the rub - no one has since Genesis; there has been relative peace.

Why do you think Gustang has waited until NOW, as opposed to the probable scenario where he's desired to tell Zahard off for probably thousands of years?
 

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Hollan and pudidy know baam use power of levi is when he shows up beside jisung and destroy the attack from hollan, if baam when comes save jisung without that attack I assume they are never know baam use power of levi.
Ah, but they don't know what leviathan is. Hollam just deduces that it was something dangerous kept by FH inside the susspedium.
 
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