Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
  • Poll closed .

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Devo right now is supporting team Baam by trying to resolve the bomb issue!
Which make me think that Khun family still want something from Baam. Otherwise, they would have abandon Baam after they got nothing from the suspendium.
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Speaking personally, i hope Baam picks Shilial if he accepts the offer. Lilial is ugly as shit and has fangs.
Is she the red one? The yellow one is too violent.
 

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You forgot the part that Rei will control everything about Baam's life through this marriage.

And well, if he doesn't want to, he'll just kill everyone in the nest.

Yeah, quite friendly.
Which is why it makes sense for Baam to marry a friend. Elaine will be loyal to him, not Rei. Can you say the same about the twins
 

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Every important/known Khun is in Baam's corner in some way, even if they're manipulative:

AA and Ran, duh
Machenny
Hachuling by way of WingTree/Urek
Asensio and Devo (and third minion) by way of Mas
Hell Train Khun by way of AA
Whoever AA can call upon (if not Hell Train Khun)


Hell, even Elliot didn't really try to stop him or his cohort.
 

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Which is why it makes sense for Baam to marry a friend. Elaine will be loyal to him, not Rei. Can you say the same about the twins
Maybe? Baam has a way of winning people over, and the twins are also in league with Maschenny who is not necessarily on Traumerei's side.
 

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Speaking of Nano, the MC *just* turned down some indecent proposal shit like this - a political marriage - and it made him MORE valuable as a chad.
 

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FH's strengths come from the admin, not the other way around. Not even Zahard can defy an admin. Hence, we have ZERO evidence a FH can go against the king contract that comes directly from an admin, and every reason to believe they can't do anything about it at all. Which is what the story talks about how a new irregular that's not bound by contracts is needed to kill Zahard.

Them's the facts.



Yes, key word here is 'secretly'

Zahard had no clue what Gustang was up to behind his back, until he got triggered to data-floor, noticed the treasure-seeking stingray, immediately knew it was Gustang, and next we know there's *immediately* an order to kill ALL the Po Bidau.

It's that clear how much control Zahard can wield - if he chooses or if you go against him.
Lol okay .

You might want to look at those first chapter explaining that irregular strength come from the tower and not admin .

Which is why we say that non irregular have no chance because they strength come from admin which is limited while irregular are limitless .

Them's the facts .

Well you are going to complain , but i don't know how to quote part off comment .

We are again having the same debate , you again are making un proved claim .

You are speaking about a contract that we know next to nothing about , i asked what that contrats and you dodge the question , please it seems me and many other missed some key information , give them all .

The title is king of the power , is Zahard Urek king ? Is zahard FUG king ?

Prove ? evidence ? I don't have to provide any , you are the one making ridiculous claim that 10 FH can't go and beat up zahard not me , i don't have to provide evidence when you are the one saying 10 FH can't go an deal with zahard because off some imaginative rule that we never saw off .

I have the impression you don't read my post , because if you did you would have saw that i said Zahard was king .

Peace ? Are you talking about the peace that hapenned when jahad princess and they faction were killing each other in death match so much that lot if not most first generation jahad princess died ? The peace that came with the second generation slayers who brought hella trouble in the tower ? The peace off the first generation that Maschenny fantasize every day ?

Second off all why would assume that a FH and zahard fighting would mean there isn't peace ? If a FH is angry does he need to create a huge war ? or even a war ? Can't they just go for zahard ?

The fact is that we have no idea off whether a FH ever defied and maybe cooled down . We don't know . In fact the likehood that no FH ever fighted in all those years is low and if i was to as you i would be saying that none off them did fight .

He tryed to choke BAam ? Sure , he would have done the same to anyone trying the thing Gustang wanted .

Again Gustang strength don't matter , a combination off multiple FH would be enough .

Second you are again making the same mistake as those who speak about defeating Karaka , you don't to kill someone to deal with them . KAraka was captured for example , same could happen if all 10 FH figth zahard .

political outcome ? What political outcome ?

Zahard as been showed to care about nothing outside off irregular and few other things .

Why would he care about any political outcome if he is king and like you said nothing can change it ?

Why would he care about any garbage political outcome when Baam is still alive .

Baam was at his weakest for 12 and more and the 2 time he tryied to kill Baam wasn't even him but a data who was charged off killing people off the hidden floor and an indirect order where zahard army had 3 choice .

For someone who is king he seems quite powerless when we know when BAam was born he killed from the start and he know his fate is to be defeated by BAam .

So the kingly contract make him king and invulnerable ?

I am pretty sure it is the immortality contract that all FH have and not the kingly contract that give that .

Can you provide any evidence that show what power or autorities does a king have ?

Do you realize that what you said until now is that FH couldn't despose zahard , yet when i ask you how do you know it , you speak about the contract and you say it make him a king and he get to decide something .

Or maybe a contract making zahad king means zahard can't be targeted ?

I would call bullshit on that , king in real life can be killed or even captured , if the contract say he is king , in no way it means that he can't be dealt with .

I will go back to my point that you are again speaking about something that no one know about .

We know next to nothing about the contract , we don't know how long it last , we don't know if it can stripped and given to someone else , we don't even know what autorities it give him .

Like i say to cinera and other we can speculate but making stuff up when we need more evidence make no sense .

Like last week , we debated about Rei performance and then we saw that when he try he checkmated everyone . Now Rei don't even look at Yama and Yas anymore when Baam is here .

The same way you made point about ancient one who couldn't possibly be killed by Rei when just because Rei couldn't careless about stoping Akrinac .

You basically said the kingly contract make zahard a king , and give him permission to control his own empire ...
Sure ? But it is his empire , do FH need a contract to get to control they own empire .

As for climbing higher , do i have repeate again that you are making baseless claim ?
Do i get to say that FH don't care about jahad princess
How so? The very fact that Traumerei mentions it as a prestigious title shows how highly esteemed it is.



I don't think so. I think each and every FH is freely able to at any time tell Zahard to get bent. And that's exactly what Gustang did. Zahard can of course retaliate, but that would be a war not summary destruction.

The Great Families are sovereign states within a larger Empire.
Yep if zahard order one off those FH and they don't want it , they can refuse and zahard will have to overlook it .

As for zahard princess they are FH playtool , and like slayers they don't care .
 

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Also, it feels like the author forgot about chapter 1 and where the future tech was even going. Hell, he uses it less and less. It's just a standard murim sword-swinging whirlwind shit now.
Don't worry, it gets worse when it reveals what happened to the MC in the timeline when he didn't have the nano. lmao
 

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nothing wrong with cat tower. I dont understand why so many dont like it.
There's no problem with the cat tower, at least not if it had been resolved several hundred chapters ago.

SIU could have sorted it out right then and there to focus on Baam, now he's just SCROLLING to shift focus.

The main plot of the nest has always been Yama vs Yasratcha and Baam rescuing Jinsung, in the end he managed to combine the two plots, but still kept the sub-plot to launch cliffhanger and make readers anxious, but in a totally wrong way.
 

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Lol okay .

You might want to look at those first chapter explaining that irregular strength come from the tower and not admin .

Which is why we say that non irregular have no chance because they strength come from admin which is limited while irregular are limitless .

Them's the facts .

Well you are going to complain , but i don't know how to quote part off comment .

We are again having the same debate , you again are making un proved claim .

You are speaking about a contract that we know next to nothing about , i asked what that contrats and you dodge the question , please it seems me and many other missed some key information , give them all .

The title is king of the power , is Zahard Urek king ? Is zahard FUG king ?

Prove ? evidence ? I don't have to provide any , you are the one making ridiculous claim that 10 FH can't go and beat up zahard not me , i don't have to provide evidence when you are the one saying 10 FH can't go an deal with zahard because off some imaginative rule that we never saw off .

I have the impression you don't read my post , because if you did you would have saw that i said Zahard was king .

Peace ? Are you talking about the peace that hapenned when jahad princess and they faction were killing each other in death match so much that lot if not most first generation jahad princess died ? The peace that came with the second generation slayers who brought hella trouble in the tower ? The peace off the first generation that Maschenny fantasize every day ?

Second off all why would assume that a FH and zahard fighting would mean there isn't peace ? If a FH is angry does he need to create a huge war ? or even a war ? Can't they just go for zahard ?

The fact is that we have no idea off whether a FH ever defied and maybe cooled down . We don't know . In fact the likehood that no FH ever fighted in all those years is low and if i was to as you i would be saying that none off them did fight .

He tryed to choke BAam ? Sure , he would have done the same to anyone trying the thing Gustang wanted .

Again Gustang strength don't matter , a combination off multiple FH would be enough .

Second you are again making the same mistake as those who speak about defeating Karaka , you don't to kill someone to deal with them . KAraka was captured for example , same could happen if all 10 FH figth zahard .

political outcome ? What political outcome ?

Zahard as been showed to care about nothing outside off irregular and few other things .

Why would he care about any political outcome if he is king and like you said nothing can change it ?

Why would he care about any garbage political outcome when Baam is still alive .

Baam was at his weakest for 12 and more and the 2 time he tryied to kill Baam wasn't even him but a data who was charged off killing people off the hidden floor and an indirect order where zahard army had 3 choice .

For someone who is king he seems quite powerless when we know when BAam was born he killed from the start and he know his fate is to be defeated by BAam .

So the kingly contract make him king and invulnerable ?

I am pretty sure it is the immortality contract that all FH have and not the kingly contract that give that .

Can you provide any evidence that show what power or autorities does a king have ?

Do you realize that what you said until now is that FH couldn't despose zahard , yet when i ask you how do you know it , you speak about the contract and you say it make him a king and he get to decide something .

Or maybe a contract making zahad king means zahard can't be targeted ?

I would call bullshit on that , king in real life can be killed or even captured , if the contract say he is king , in no way it means that he can't be dealt with .

I will go back to my point that you are again speaking about something that no one know about .

We know next to nothing about the contract , we don't know how long it last , we don't know if it can stripped and given to someone else , we don't even know what autorities it give him .

Like i say to cinera and other we can speculate but making stuff up when we need more evidence make no sense .

Like last week , we debated about Rei performance and then we saw that when he try he checkmated everyone . Now Rei don't even look at Yama and Yas anymore when Baam is here .

The same way you made point about ancient one who couldn't possibly be killed by Rei when just because Rei couldn't careless about stoping Akrinac .

You basically said the kingly contract make zahard a king , and give him permission to control his own empire ...
Sure ? But it is his empire , do FH need a contract to get to control they own empire .

As for climbing higher , do i have repeate again that you are making baseless claim ?
Do i get to say that FH don't care about jahad princess


Yep if zahard order one off those FH and they don't want it , they can refuse and zahard will have to overlook it .

As for zahard princess they are FH playtool , and like slayers they don't care .
TBH, I stopped reading at your first line - the *FH* irregulars have their powers via contracts they've made with the admin (shinsoo contracts), for better or worse (described as 'chains'). While they could have avoided them, they made those contracts regardless, and are therefor bound to law via contracts under admin. And, as they are the relevant parties we're talking about, aren't 'unbound' irregulars that can pose a threat to Zahard.

Further, the 10FH have their immortality - from a contract; not the tower.
Further, Zahard is a king - via a contract; not the tower.

There is very little need to read further. You're missing vital information; *you* should reread.
 

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So much for Traumerei dying this arc :yodawg
Yep see how there is no one talking smack about Rei .

Damn i need to dig back on those thread .

I remember , Maschenny , ascencio and icardi willl stalemate Rei .

Rei is weak .

Rei is the weakest FH .

Rei will have to flee when facing Baam .

Rei will need zhard help .

Akrinac will deal with Rei .

Rei will die this arc .

Rei was trying to kill Yama and Yas .

Rei was dissapointing .

Alright this chapter just show how weak Rei think non irregular are .

I said it before , Rei can take each and every single HR off both jahad and FUG side by himself .
 

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Will Traum stop Baam from climbing if Baam accept?
 

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ofcourse traumerei wants bam to breed with his daughters, they will have strong children and the LPB family will be have more power. LPB is already weakest family so it makes sense that they want more power now so Traumerei is taking the opportunity. Traumerei does not care about zahard more than any other family head, he only put himself on the frontlines so that he could get first pick on bam. If anything, traumerei is betraying zahard here!
 

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Don't worry, it gets worse when it reveals what happened to the MC in the timeline when he didn't have the nano. lmao
hmmm, there must be a LN then
 

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TBH, I stopped reading at your first line - the *FH* irregulars have their powers via contracts they've made with the admin (shinsoo contracts), for better or worse (described as 'chains'). While they could have avoided them, they made those contracts regardless, and are therefor bound to law via contracts under admin. And, as they are the relevant parties we're talking about, aren't 'unbound' irregulars that can pose a threat to Zahard.

Further, the 10FH have their immortality - from a contract; not the tower.
Further, Zahard is a king - via a contract; not the tower.

There is very little need to read further. You're missing vital information; *you* should reread.
Lol , okay dude , everyone know that irregular don't need any contract to use they power and that it is what differentiate them from Baam .

You have no evidence they made any contract to gain any strength , simply because they never did .

anyone in this forum will tell you that FH power don't come from any contract and it has been know from the first arc .
 

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I really don't think Zahard cares if an FH wants to revoke the status of a princess from his own family, especially a regular princess.

The Zahard princesses have so much prestige because of Zahard himself and with that, if they are from the 10 families, they grow in status. Besides, it all depends on how esteemed a princess is.

Anak broke a rule and was killed, while Yuri betrayed the empire but is still alive. The reason? She is very popular in the Ha family.

If Rei, the FH, asks for the breaking of the law of princesses and especially of a regular princess who has not become the center of influence and is not even one of the chosen ones, there is no reason for zahard to deny it.

The problem is the other part, Zahard would never let Baam live and I also don't see any reason for FH to stand by watching Rei break the status quo of families.

It's one thing for you to have dual lineage monsters like Enne and the Ha twins, another for you to have 2 irregulars in a family.

And let's face it, everything indicates that Baam will refuse this offer or something/someone will intervene before he speaks.
 

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Yep see how there is no one talking smack about Rei .

Damn i need to dig back on those thread .

I remember , Maschenny , ascencio and icardi willl stalemate Rei .

Rei is weak .

Rei is the weakest FH .

Rei will have to flee when facing Baam .

Rei will need zhard help .

Akrinac will deal with Rei .

Rei will die this arc .

Rei was trying to kill Yama and Yas .

Rei was dissapointing .

Alright this chapter just show how weak Rei think non irregular are .

I said it before , Rei can take each and every single HR off both jahad and FUG side by himself .
It's ALMOST as if the author started treating an irregular with status, as opposed to earlier chapters.
 

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I remember , Maschenny , ascencio and icardi willl stalemate Rei .
Wow, this is a good one
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Will Traum stop Baam from climbing if Baam accept?
He doesn't have that power, the moment Baam leaves his range, he can't do anything because the ADM would prevent him from going to the regular area.
 
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