Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

[shaheer]

Alpha scans released the latest.. perhaps pin it if it's not already posted
https://alpha-scans.org/tower-of-god-chapter-539/

 

[O_n_Sly]

Being in the Protect or Leave Him Be group doesn’t necessarily mean you’re an ally of Baam!!! Some FHs are bored and want to continue their adventure! They need Baam to fulfill his prophecy!

 

[Turtle hunter]

That's not what I'm saying.

That's the CONDITION of how irregulars ENTER the tower - unbound.

THEN WHAT? What happened from the moment they stepped foot on 1F to now? Were any contracts made?

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Nope. Never happened.

Alright dude you right ahaha .

 

[O_n_Sly]

Current Eduan and Data Eduan are totally different people, I wouldn't consider his children to call him an ally of Baam.

Apart from Blossom, which I still have doubts about, I don't see any FH as Baam's real ally here, just questions of interest.

Data Eduan wasn’t really an ally of Baam’s! He said it himself, that he never expected much from Baam, he had his mind set on destroying the Data World!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Alright dude you right ahaha .

So, just to be clear, this is you making a fallacious claim, and shying away from a very simple question. Got it.

 

[PitchBlack857]

Well If I remember correctly, SIU mentioned in a blog that Enryu would appear , well now seems like a good time for the homie to show up. Also what if Baam actually pulls a swerve and agrees to wife up one of the Lo po bia Princesses or Kaiser. That would make for a interesting turn of events for the story, Baam deserves a Harem of bad bitches

Btw Traumerei is who I thought he was, he has his own end game just like all the family heads. None of them are 100% loyal to Jahad.

 

[Jino]

Baam will get all of them like collecting pokemon, even Garam, a man can dream, no? Haha.

Garam was also interested in Baam, and called him cute and not surprised why two princesses of Zahard are following him - I honestly wanted to see Urek reaction seeing Garam liking Baam, and SIU is also hinting on Adori since the end of Workshop Arc, AA wouldn't be surprised until Baam is dating Adori, knowing Baam this might very well happen.

As for this situation, it depends on the translations, I notice sometimes the translations with Rei seems to make him look disrespectful and rude towards beings, but he wasn't necessarily as rude as he actually seems to Baam, and Baam isn't necessarily afraid of him or power as implied or brought up about dying/losing in an instant, which is good.

What I understand from reading it myself is that Traum truly genuinely wanted Baam to become a family member/son in law; while it's true it is easy for people to see Trau want to make Baam slave, the translations if done in other ways or reading the words, doesn't seem to hint there or at least Trau didn't disrespect Baam like that, in fact his gestures and languages have more than treated him as equal, if people were to try to translate themselves from the Korean source.

 

[Turtle hunter]

So, just to be clear, this is you making a fallacious claim, and shying away from a very simple question. Got it.

Nope it is me being smart .

if someone make the ridiculous claim that earth doesn't have any oxygen and that i prove them wrong and then say what about about the other planet when i never mentionned those , i won't be dumb enough to debate a point a point that i never made .

 

[sazon]

You made the point that irregular power come from admin we know it doesn't .

Case close .

@Cinera @sazon tell @Jubei_Kibagami that FH power don't come from any contract .

To be fair, we don't know how far the FH shackles go. They definitely made different contracts to receive perks and who knows more power, we have no way of knowing.

It was said that Troymerei acquired the anima ability by climbing the tower, we don't know how, maybe it's contract.

Direct descendants of the Yeon family, there is definitely a contract involved.

Arie fencing can come from a contract.

We do not know. The FH are talented, there is no reason Eduan's spear skill came from a contract or Gustang's intelligence and they are still not restricted to using shinsoo given that Rei can use shinwonryuu, but from the moment they are bound to a contract, they shouldn't even be considered irregular, but that's another discussion.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Nope it is me being smart .

if someone make the ridiculous claim that earth doesn't have any oxygen and that i prove them wrong and then say what about about the other planet when i never mentionned those , i won't be dumb enough to debate a point a point that i never made .

Once again, you misquoted me and thinks that's appropriate. I have never once made the claim that ALL irregulars can kill Zahard. That's a misrepresentation grasping at straws.

I challenge you to quote me though.

As for the rather simple question - did the adventurers form contracts or not (whether necessary or not)? is pretty clear-cut. You repeatedly avoid answering that because it blows up your argumentation.

 

[Icarus Zahard]

It became interesting again. Now the FH shows his true power.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

To be fair, we don't know how far the FH shackles go. They definitely made different contracts to receive perks and who knows more power, we have no way of knowing.

It was said that Troymerei acquired the anima ability by climbing the tower, we don't know how, maybe it's contract.

Direct descendants of the Yeon family, there is definitely a contract involved.

Arie fencing can come from a contract.

We do not know. The FH are talented, there is no reason Eduan's spear skill came from a contract or Gustang's intelligence and they are still not restricted to using shinsoo given that Rei can use shinwonryuu, but from the moment they are bound to a contract, they shouldn't even be considered irregular, but that's another discussion.

These are hard facts:

- all admin on every floor have a contract with Z
- Z was the first to form contracts
- the most basic contract is shinsoo control
- irregulars don't NEED to form shinsoo contracts, but it appears they did (as has Baam)
- shinsoo underwrites every single thing in the tower
- the king status comes from an admin contract
- the immortality (a perk or a power if you will) comes from an admin contract

This is all I have ever argued here. Do you disagree with any of the above?

Edit: oh and that the FH cannot defy an admin

 

[Turtle hunter]

To be fair, we don't know how far the FH shackles go. They definitely made different contracts to receive perks and who knows more power, we have no way of knowing.

It was said that Troymerei acquired the anima ability by climbing the tower, we don't know how, maybe it's contract.

Direct descendants of the Yeon family, there is definitely a contract involved.

Arie fencing can come from a contract.

We do not know. The FH are talented, there is no reason Eduan's spear skill came from a contract or Gustang's intelligence and they are still not restricted to using shinsoo given that Rei can use shinwonryuu, but from the moment they are bound to a contract, they shouldn't even be considered irregular, but that's another discussion.

Let me clarify something .

Baam power come from the tower .

He gained soul power and Levi power but it doesn't mean those power came from contact .

The rest is all suposition .

 

[Icarus Zahard]

If Bam breeds with a Princess of Zahard... Then I think that , Rachel can breed with the Prince of Jahad
Ok Bye!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Let me clarify something .

Baam power come from the tower .

He gained soul power and Levi power but it doesn't mean those power came from contact .

The rest is all suposition .

Technically, and if I want to be pedantic (which I clearly do), Baam's power comes not from the tower itself but from him coming from outside of it, and thus having an inherent mastery of shinsoo from the start. Still, he puts on the shackles.

So, either way you're wrong. His power comes from OUTSIDE the tower....

 

[Turtle hunter]

Once again, you misquoted me and thinks that's appropriate. I have never once made the claim that ALL irregulars can kill Zahard. That's a misrepresentation grasping at straws.

I challenge you to quote me though.

As for the rather simple question - did the adventurers form contracts or not (whether necessary or not)? is pretty clear-cut. You repeatedly avoid answering that because it blows up your argumentation.

I see , so please quote where i said you said and i will be ready to apologize , if not stop deflecting .

I don't answer because it is stupid and it is why i answered aahaha alrigth dude .

When it come to the point where you have to say i have misquoted me yet i didn't , and that you asked me to justify point that i never made i have no business in that , maybe you should read previous comment .

 

[sazon]

Let me clarify something .

Baam power come from the tower .

He gained soul power and Levi power but it doesn't mean those power came from contact .

The rest is all suposition .

Wait, Baam is one thing, 13GW is another.

Just the fact that they can't kill each other (like Arlen's case) makes them bound by the tower's rules.

The ADM himself said that the 13GW is under contract.

Just the fact that they have the immortality contract and the family contracts (members of the 10 families can use shinsoo before climbing the tower for that) are example enough for that.

And as I said, the fact that they are limited there is something, by the definition we have, they should no longer be considered irregular since they are no longer exempt from ALL tower laws.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Technically, and if I want to be pedantic (which I clearly do), Baam's power comes not from the tower itself but from him coming from outside of it, and thus having an inherent mastery of shinsoo from the start. Still, he puts on the shackles.

So, either way you're wrong. His power comes from OUTSIDE the tower....

Are you gonna provide any evide .... Nope what did i expect .

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Wait, Baam is one thing, 13GW is another.

Just the fact that they can't kill each other (like Arlen's case) makes them bound by the tower's rules.

The ADM himself said that the 13GW is under contract.

Just the fact that they have the immortality contract and the family contracts (members of the 10 families can use shinsoo before climbing the tower for that) are example enough for that.

And as I said, the fact that they are limited there is something, by the definition we have, they should no longer be considered irregular since they are no longer exempt from ALL tower laws.

I am not gonna debate that . let us continue to watch tower of god , maybe some off the thing that was said in season 1 will come back and you will remember something .

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I see , so please quote where i said you said and i will be ready to apologize , if not stop deflecting .

I don't answer because it is stupid and it is why i answered aahaha alrigth dude .

When it come to the point where you have to say i have misquoted me yet i didn't , and that you asked me to justify point that i never made i have no business in that , maybe you should read previous comment .

JFC, dude, post #551, I even quoted it back at you. Do you have Rei's level of short-term memory loss?

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I am not gonna debate that . let us continue to watch tower of god , maybe some off the thing that was said in season 1 will come back and you will remember something .

Does it suck that the person you @'ed doesn't agree with you?

Why are you being so condescending about this?

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

...i am so glad this ain’t like Naruto that war arc sucked prolapsed butthole.

It would have cost you nothing not to say that

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Are you gonna provide any evide .... Nope what did i expect .

And what evidence is it that you supposedly need?

That Baam comes from outside the tower?
That Baam formed a contract, called 'shackles' by the very admin he contracted with?
That irregulars are able to control shinsoo by virtue of coming from outside the tower?