Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
  • Poll closed .

Realuffy

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Traumerei wants Baam becomes Lo Po Bia family,
he knows Baam is Arlen's son?
 

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Cool. Well, the record speaks for itself. Since you seem to have sprung a leak posting rando definitions (without the actual term defined) and no context, I'll assume that means you release me from your insanity.
What insanity you deluded lol .

I proved so many time that you were inventing thing .

Speaking about a king contract and showing no evidence how it binds FH

Speaking about conflict in the tower and possible peace and failed to provided evidence for it .

Speaking about FH power and providing no evidence how they power come the tower .

But you ignored all those point when you know you are wrong and focus on those that have some chance , speaking about some political purpose or something like that when Zahard for almost 12 years had to watch Baam grow without being able to do anything to him and resuming it political purpose .

I guess now that i know thanks to you that zhard is urek king , i will call URek a sub .
 

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Enryuu is an existence above a ADM as he managed to kill one, while Phanta is not even spoken.

All this only applies to those who cannot overcome the power of the tower administrators.
They never had the power to overcome admins even without the contracts but were still considered irregulars even then.

Why would they be less irregular when they have contracts?
 

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They never had the power to overcome admins even without the contracts but were still considered irregulars even then.

Why would they be less irregular when they have contracts?
and @Jubei_Kibagami expect me to answer this question , where there is no evidence that there is any difference in what they can do in general between previous irregular and the current .

Oustide off Baam having the torn off course .
 

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Speaking about FH power and providing no evidence how they power come the tower .
I mean shinsu is from the Tower, is doesn't exist outside of it. Zahard & co become great within the Tower, who knows how good they are outside. Tower could be providing Irregulars possibility they couldn't achieve outside (shinsu being the first perk, a kind of mana to do magical things).
 

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They never had the power to overcome admins even without the contracts but were still considered irregulars even then.

Why would they be less irregular when they have contracts?
In short, they aren't. Contracts are part of the adventure granted to them by the Tower.

It has nothing to do with your question but do you think Irregulars can equal or even surpass Admins with enough time and effort ?
I mean, they are like mini Admins when they enter the Tower.
- inate authority over shinsu
- power over fate
- limitless growth

In theory, nothing should stop them from mastering shinsu to the point of becoming immortal through there own power or equaling Admins control over shinsu right ? Gustang for exemple can grant pseudo-immortality via a spell.
I wouldn't be surprised if one day Jahad shows us abilities on the same level of Enryu.
He has the right to change the Tower's laws and is working on mastering fate. The man is still growing.
 

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I mean shinsu is from the Tower, is doesn't exist outside of it. Zahard & co become great within the Tower, who knows how good they are outside. Tower could be providing Irregulars possibility they couldn't achieve outside (shinsu being the first perk, a kind of mana to do magical things).
Well i explained myself badly but you pretty much made my point .

Claiming Baam power come from outside the tower when shinsoo exist inside the tower and not outside .
 

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It has already been made clear that the distortion of space can destroy an entire floor
Wrong. He said every organism here and Urek didn't let finish his sentence. First of all, Death Floor does not have many organisms in the first place. Some of those who live near to admin have survived. Second, "here" can mean an area, whether big or not, not necessarily the entire floor. The idea that he meant the entire floor is completely headcanon.
 

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Which make me think that Khun family still want something from Baam. Otherwise, they would have abandon Baam after they got nothing from the suspendium.
Maschenny wanted Baam to acquire Leviathan. She was only pretending to believe that Baam didn't get anything from the Frozen Waterfall.


You made the point that irregular power come from admin we know it doesn't .

Case close .

@Cinera @sazon tell @Jubei_Kibagami that FH power don't come from any contract .
Contracts are shackles for Irregulars. The Irregulars are able to use shinsu without permission from the Guardians and their Shinwonryu is also independent from the Guardians. As far as we're aware, their immortality comes from the Guardians. Their other abilities however do not.

@Jubei_Kibagami.
 

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Well i explained myself badly but you pretty much made my point .

Claiming Baam power come from outside the tower when shinsoo exist inside the tower and not outside .
If shinsoo doesn't exist outside the tower, how was enryus God so certain that he could complete the task given to him? What made him so special to be designated this task whilst outside the tower and not having the use or practice of shinsoo? How was he instantly so proficient at something he never used this is the equivalent of seeing a car for the first time then immediately winning the grand prix
 

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The final fight will be on Bam's sperms. Whose property are they, indeed?
This is probably what the Princess Arc will be all about.

Traumerei wants Baam becomes Lo Po Bia family,
he knows Baam is Arlen's son?
Doesn't seem like he recognize him yet. Heck, i don't think any of the FHs know about the prophecy and Bam/Viole's identity aside from Gustang, who was the only one with access to Arlene's pocket. Unless Gustang had secretly allied himself with another FH.
 
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If shinsoo doesn't exist outside the tower, how was enryus God so certain that he could complete the task given to him? What made him so special to be designated this task whilst outside the tower and not having the use or practice of shinsoo? How was he instantly so proficient at something he never used this is the equivalent of seeing a car for the first time then immediately winning the grand prix
There is lot of assumption here , part off this that Enryuu entering the tower for the first time was when he killed the guardian .
 

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Kill: Hon, Han and Bloodmadder

Protect: Blossom and Tperie

Leave him alone: Eduan, Yurin and Hana
Kill: Hon, Han and Bloodmadder

Protect: Blossom and Tperie

Leave him alone: Eduan, Yurin and Hana
My version

Kill: Hon & Bloodmadder
Protect: Eduan & Blossom
Leave alone: Han, Yurin, Hana, & Tperie
 

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He was scared to death of Zahard.
That was more like a trauma than fear and he managed to fight that fear until the real Zahard appear
 

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Sucks we don’t have raw t/l to refer to besides the video. If you look closely when Traum shows off all creatures, there’s a faded serpent shown, very similar to Levi but green and extending throughout the entire nest!
 

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Contracts are shackles for Irregulars. The Irregulars are able to use shinsu without permission from the Guardians and their Shinwonryu is also independent from the Guardians. As far as we're aware, their immortality comes from the Guardians. Their other abilities however do not.

@Jubei_Kibagami.
Which is... what I've said.

The only point of contention is the bolded part. That's the case when they enter, but once they 'shackle' themselves they use it under the permission of the admin (they don't have to do this)
 

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I indeed looked at it but it is okay , you also like to change topic when i prove you wrong but won't admit .

He didn't really disagree you can look back , but whatever , i don't have any pleasure debating shit that have been told in the first arc .

I can debate whether ancient one can match irregular or whether FH have any influence on zahard , those are complex subject that are not really clear .

But when people say that FH may possibly made a shinsoo contract or got they power by some contract when there is no evidence off that , why would i waste my time debating something that has no basis in the manwha ?

Provide evidence and i would gladly debate you but saying it is likely or it is possible , when there is no evidence is cool , i don't want to be harsch but i don't debate people on they fantasies or hypothesis .

I think Zahard could wipe out the entirety off TOG by himself and it is likely , but i won't debate anyone on that , because we don't know how far above are irregular compared to non irregular .

I have no problem with @sazon , but i don't have to debate thing that i think have no basis and that there is nothing yet that prove it .

Saying that FH are not real irregular , what i am supossed to say to that ?
No Zahard can't even fight an administrator and you expect him to be able to overwhelm everyone in the tower don't be delusional only enryu and phantaminum can destroy the world tower siu even said that enryu is so strong that he could fight everyone in the tower at the same time
 
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