And yet Arlene left Baam in a cave.She loved Baam so much that he kept his body from decomposing by using spells and tried very hard to revive him.And when he is actually is revived she leaves him there.Not to mention he is literally devouring many things in the tower.
We still don't know how Baam ended up in that cave. Rachel has lied to Baam and tried to use him her whole life, not to mention the situation she said those words in make them even more suspect than usual for her, which is saying something.
Whether FUG is coercing him with hostages, or manipulating him via Jinsung and Hwa Ryun and whoever else (and they still have hostages like Yihwa). It's a bad situation that won't lead to a good place. They just want him as a weapon to fight for them.
Captain and his crew are the ones holding Yihwa hostage not FUG.
FUG wants to use Baam and have always been clear on that, but right now Baam doesn't have to worry that they will control him the way he did in the past. He has actual influence there now. With Lo Po Bia he would just be going back to the days when he was being controlled left and right, only the situation would never get any better since he has no allies in Lo Po Bia to help him.
Both of those are a terrible places to be. Though at least with Traumerei there is the potential of de-esclateing the conflict with the other 10 families and move up the tower in a relatively normal way. His friends would certainly be safer too. Though, he's probably going to be harder to break free of too since he's way more powerful than any FUG character we've seen. So really it's a tie for me. They both suck.
Baam already has the protection of being a regular and is moving up relatively normally. I also don't know why you think his friends would be safer as hostages,
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Damn this time you got me
Good job shaheer
That or Gustang shows up and blows the whole situation up.
Though I sort of hope not because I just love the idea of Baam being in a situation he can't punch his way out of. Characters talking is so much more exciting to me than characters fighting right now.
Speaking of exciting the way Traumerei's dialogue suggested a future where the 10 families all have a different stances on Baam and where that whole side of things is expanded is so exciting to me. That is a future I'm into in a way I never was for FUG vs the 10 Familes because there is so much more room to do interesting things there, IMO.
I agree heavenly with this. People thinking something good will come outta this is just wrong. He will literally be depressed baam again.... Regressing back to Viole.
We still don't know how Baam ended up in that cave. Rachel has lied to Baam and tried to use him her whole life, not to mention the situation she said those words in make them even more suspect than usual for her, which is saying something.
Yep. She even lied to Baam about even knowing Arlene and Baam called her out on it. Nothing she says about Baam's past can be trusted. She's an unreliable narrator.
It used to be in the past, but right now is not really a chain to Baam. It's more like a cooperation in order to achieve the same goal, Baam himself said it that he wants to destroy Zahard and his army:
That is still not freedom. They might work together now, but if he wants to leave, he won't be able to do so easily. In the end, he is their "God", their tool to kill Jahad.
Karaka said 10 Family leaders can easily enter karaka's heart and destroy it. I don't think karaka will really have a signifance on escaping. As much as i want them to escape since Traum talking about Baam as who would take his ownership among family leaders like treating him as a simple item,i don't think they have any chance unless we met with some plot armor shit like how khun and rak obilerating white since baam said he would die instantly as if killing baam wouldn't take longer than a milisecond. Traum and 10 family leaders just look like some fuckin young masters in chinese novels who think they are all gods among men shit, and it's frustrating. And knowing how baam is much stronger than them the time they were at 50s floors makes it even more frustrating. Doom even says baam is a puppy!!! Wtf dude put some respect into this guy's name. It's all because SIU doesn't show baam's strength in front of people or public,that nobody takes baam seriously. So what if he survives the nest which is filled with high rankers? They think he survived while running away while he put one of strongest arie family members into shame by not going all out.
Sorry if i sounded angry,just wanting SIU to show baam's big johnson to people and just shut them down. I don't want to read a series if the MC is always going to get humilated like this, as much as there is so much hype,baam is still an laughingstock in front of people because they know him weak. Just once can't you show people how strong baam is rather than show us him humilating White,so they take him seriously and don't dare to take hostages??? I don't believe they would have guts to do this againist urek since Urek was simply super strong.
I agree Whole heartedly with this one. Having baam start his own Group or Organization would be a interesting development and a Good one at that.
It's also been stated that Baam is Different from the other Irregulars including Urek by the God of Guardians. So him starting his own Organization would Fit his Character.
I believe FUG is still an dangerous Organization for baam to be in. Their too corrupted and still has many members that resides in the shadows(blue Holes) that could come after baam in the long run
Though I sort of hope not because I just love the idea of Baam being in a situation he can't punch his way out of. Characters talking is so much more exciting to me than characters fighting right now.
Ironic, isn't it? Traum is willing to let go of prized position such as princess of zahard just to tame Baam. On a side not, LPB Ren is Baam's first teacher.
To be fair, he said they're and option, and just requested Baam marry a daughter of the LPB
I still say, Baam will reject the twins, and go for Elaine, it make the most sense from his perspective. Unless Luslec or Gustang show up, leaving here without some appeasement to rei isn't happen
I agree Whole heartedly with this one. Having baam start his own Group or Organization would be a interesting development and a Good one at that.
It's also been stated that Baam is Different from the other Irregulars including Urek by the God of Guardians. So him starting his own Organization would Fit his Character.
I believe FUG is still an dangerous Organization for baam to be in. Their too corrupted and still has many members that resides in the shadows(blue Holes) that could come after baam in the long run
Karaka, has become loyal to Baam, Vincente has taken over White and pledged a life debt to Baam, Khel has been cured of his dispair and helped baam infiltrate the nest
FUG is pretty much Baam's army
Rei said he would take Baam's loved ones hostage, that's the part I don't see Baam going with.
Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better. For the story. I'd rather see how he navigates dealing with a marriage he doesn't particularly want and a situation where he can't just solve all his issues by gobbling down a couple new powerups and throwing hands. It has the feeling of something more mature than what we've been getting with his narrative for a long time now.
It'd be a real shame if SIU passed on an interesting new direction to just keep slinging out more of the same old shounen hash.
And yet Arlene left Baam in a cave.She loved Baam so much that he kept his body from decomposing by using spells and tried very hard to revive him.And when he is actually is revived she leaves him there.Not to mention he is literally devouring many things in the tower.
To be fair, he said they're and option, and just requested Baam marry a daughter of the LPB
I still say, Baam will reject the twins, and go for Elaine, it make the most sense from his perspective. Unless Luslec or Gustang show up, leaving here without some appeasement to rei isn't happen
Baam flat out said he can't fight Rei
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Karaka, has become loyal to Baam, Vincente has taken over White and pledged a life debt to Baam, Khel has been cured of his dispair and helped baam infiltrate the nest
FUG is pretty much Baam's army
Rei said he would take Baam's loved ones hostage, that's the part I don't see Baam going with.
Vicente I Agree but it's still A grey area If Hoaqin comes back So Vicente still poses a Risk if Hoaqin manage to get back into control.
Karaka partially Agree - except If baam chooses to do his own thing how would he react. We saw how he was unwilling to help baam against Yama because baam Chose to do what he wanted to do( Freeing DingDing).
Khel Hellam - still a threat specifically said If baam chooses to spread darkness (He would finish him Himself).
I mean, it's a group that we've seen do more terrible things than we've seen Zahard do. White, Karaka, Yu Hansung. All with the stated goal of overthrowing the 10 families.
Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better. For the story. I'd rather see how he navigates dealing with a marriage he doesn't particularly want and a situation where he can't just solve all his issues by gobbling down a couple new powerups and throwing hands. It has the feeling of something more mature than what we've been getting with his narrative for a long time now.
It'd be a real shame if SIU passed on an interesting new direction to just keep slinging out more of the same old shounen hash.
Vicente I Agree but it's still A grey area If Hoaqin comes back So Vicente still poses a Risk if Hoaqin manage to get back into control.
Karaka partially Agree - except If baam chooses to do his own thing how would he react. We saw how he was unwilling to help baam against Yama because baam Chose to do what he wanted to do( Freeing DingDing).
Khel Hellam - still a threat specifically said If baam chooses to spread darkness (He would finish him Himself).
Vincente was the one who found the spell and actually made the deal with the Demon, as we found out in Hoaqin's flashback, Hoaqin was like, I found the spell first..wait no...he knew it first. Recon by SIU? Maybe, but Vincente has always been the real white from what we know now. And he pledged his life in service to Baam.
Hoaqin might come back, but I think the change of personality was intentional from SIU
Karaka was "unwilling to help" but still did in the end, and ended up defending Baam by acting as a shield, I don't think it'll happen
Khel...maybe, but baam's allies can put him down if needed
The king has assembled a great army of monsters behind him
I find it ironic that you guys criticize FUG and defend HJ. He's as rotten as they are. lmao
Both FUG and the 10 families want to use Baam, the question is where will it be easier for him to seize power?
For better or worse, at FUG Baam always had support and over time he was conquering allies between Slayers and Elders, leaving this war there will be no more doubts about how monster he is.
What's more, he's already made it very clear that his goal is to overhaul the current FUG and yet, if he wants to leave now, who can really stop him, Luslec? The person who manipulated everything the most so that Baam is the one who turns the sect into a real organization?
In the LPB family, what will he have? Constant threats over his hostage friends, having to obey EVERYTHING Troymerei tells him, maybe being subjected to experiments and forced to breed.
No wait, he's gonna get a wife, damn that's amazing, a thousand times better to see Baam fucking someone, fuck if he's humiliated and thrown in the trash and without the respect that a fucking irregular destined to defeat the king of the tower deserves it.
Vicente I Agree but it's still A grey area If Hoaqin comes back So Vicente still poses a Risk if Hoaqin manage to get back into control.
Karaka partially Agree - except If baam chooses to do his own thing how would he react. We saw how he was unwilling to help baam against Yama because baam Chose to do what he wanted to do( Freeing DingDing).
Khel Hellam - still a threat specifically said If baam chooses to spread darkness (He would finish him Himself).
This fusion is different from the first one, there is the Albeda factor, although she couldn't stop Hoaqin from taking control, if he gave it up on his own there's no reason she can't stop him. If the SIU did all this to bring Vincent, who is a much better ally, a fucking Arie swordsman and sorcerer, there's no reason to bring Hoaqin back.
Karaka after he got to know Baam saw how things really are and everyone knows he is a Tsundere, there is no reason for them to antagonize anymore, first that it would just be a waste because Karaka is no longer a danger to Baam.
Khell Hellam and Sophia have been there since genesis, they probably fought on the front lines against the FH, they saw reality, they need hope and that's what Baam is bringing, just the fact that Khell helps in the nest and sophia has come enough, the other Elders will have no more reason to oppose Baam after that.
Most of the people here think irregular can’t kill each other.. because the 100th floor admin contract! Don’t expect them to say diff things now.. the nonsense started months ago and is just going to finished when the world collapse and we eat each other brain to survive
i voted that Rei’s control is stronger due to the fact that maschenny got over zahard control in data world is just that androssi to weak.. or maybe due to have another irregular blood she’s genetic stronger..
But we can see that even top 100 are under traumerei control he really the best in this area not doubt.
I find it ironic that you guys criticize FUG and defend HJ. He's as rotten as they are. lmao
Both FUG and the 10 families want to use Baam, the question is where will it be easier for him to seize power?
For better or worse, at FUG Baam always had support and over time he was conquering allies between Slayers and Elders, leaving this war there will be no more doubts about how monster he is.
What's more, he's already made it very clear that his goal is to overhaul the current FUG and yet, if he wants to leave now, who can really stop him, Luslec? The person who manipulated everything the most so that Baam is the one who turns the sect into a real organization?
In the LPB family, what will he have? Constant threats over his hostage friends, having to obey EVERYTHING Troymerei tells him, maybe being subjected to experiments and forced to breed.
No wait, he's gonna get a wife, damn that's amazing, a thousand times better to see Baam fucking someone, fuck if he's humiliated and thrown in the trash and without the respect that a fucking irregular destined to defeat the king of the tower deserves it.
Wow, a wife. AMAZING.
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Him going with lo po bia is the worst outcome imo.
1. Regression(viole) we don't want to see a character reverting back to his depressed self it leads to bad character development because he's not overcoming and moving forward but instead going back to how he was ( Cave baam)
We already saw baam go through this and break out of his shell through Kallavan
2. Boring plot point of Tower of Hostage. I can't really tell you enough how tired I am of this situation baam Constantly keeps getting himself into.