Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
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Arlene getting out of the tower, I wonder what is the effect on her body. The outside doesn't have shinsu, shinsu is produced in the tower. Also once she's outside, I wonder her contract from Administrator still work.
Wow you still thinking the admin has power outside the tower or power above irregulars?
even inside the tower where they are like gods
Irregulars can broke these laws.. don’t this to you!
 

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LMFAO who tf is capturing Gustang?!?
It would be extremely hard as he know the way and secret of the tower, he can find a hiding place, but still it is not impossible.
 

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Arlene probably found another man and has another family outside. haha how is v gonna react
V is dead. i hope there is no reaction from him. That would be scary. Perhaps she is shacking up with V in the afterlife.

Arlene getting out of the tower, I wonder what is the effect on her body. The outside doesn't have shinsu, shinsu is produced in the tower. Also once she's outside, I wonder her contract from Administrator still work.
Outside the tower I am sure Arlene will breath an “air” of relief. Her contract is not Valid outside the tower. She will again be a frail human.
 

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Arlene getting out of the tower, I wonder what is the effect on her body. The outside doesn't have shinsu, shinsu is produced in the tower. Also once she's outside, I wonder her contract from Administrator still work.
Her body will age normally, revert to ordinary human, and can kill herself.
 

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Wait, do you think the whole Baam-Rachel thing is an emotional dependency? NO! He's just a sucker who follows a woman, you're wrong!
But baam is so good as a person thanks to her
I doutb pretty hard that if arlene raised him he will be that good.. probably another arrogant DD.
the thing is that rachel was faking it he did not know..
Plus what you guys expect from baam when his dad is V the worse thing in this story he’s more coward than the family trying to kill baam but didn’t do shit to urek cause he was stronger even in the 80 floors not even tried 🤣
 

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but he is also immune to spells likely due to Arlen
Note that during Name Hunt Station, he didn't has the spell imunnity, he got caught by Fenrir's spell. Was it in dormant state at that time? Was it related to his mastery of shinworyu?
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it would be like the child born from them would have 3 irregular powers which would let them surpass even Enne or adori in talent
The most important thing is inheriting his ability to absorb power.
 

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I hope urek comes to nest and saves bam, im okay with that. I dont think anything wrong with him coming multiple times.
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i wonder if karaka can somehow take everyone in his world before eveyrone dies too
Remember that irregulars can get to that space..
 

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  1. Kill FUG since he is part of FUG.
  2. Kill all the Regulars on the HT.
But I don't know which one could be the third?
If the correct translation is not eliminate him in 1 of the 3 order but ordered 3 times to kill him, the other option can be:

Order for 4th and 5th corps to kill him in the nest?

If 1 and 2 are considered the same or if 1 is no longer counted as Traum know Baam wasn't part of FUG at the time of that order (Yuri's testimony), another option can be ordering RED (Lo Po Bia Ren) to kill him at Submerged Fish Hunt Test.
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Something about Arlene abandoning Baam in the cave reminds me of Dr. Strange taking the backseat in the final fight against Thanos.

If Baam had been raised normally and had come to known maternal love, he may never have had any reason to enter the tower.

Baam needed to be unhealthily attached to Rachel for the prophesy to come true. If Arlene is alive, she may have deliberately taken a step back for that to happen
Arlene want Baam to have revenge on the tower.
I'm not talking about his emotional state or his current personality.

I'm talking about how much Arlene's prophesy depended on Baam getting attached to Rachel.

The only reason Baam is in the tower is because he initially wanted to chase after Rachel.

He wouldn't have been as clingy as he was to Rachel if Arlene was present in his upbringing.
Rachel could have been manipulated by Arlene.
 

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Note that during Name Hunt Station, he didn't has the spell imunnity, he got caught by Fenrir's spell. Was it in dormant state at that time? Was it related to his mastery of shinworyu?
?? Fenryl didn't use spell againist Baam,i'm pretty sure it would dispel as soon as it touches baam. Fenryl is a shinheuh itself,and was using it's own ability to teleport places with kaiser. Fenryl only used his teeth to penetrate baam's skin,so it's not spell.
 

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I hope urek comes to nest and saves bam, im okay with that. I dont think anything wrong with him coming multiple times.
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i wonder if karaka can somehow take everyone in his world before eveyrone dies too
What if actually Enryu comes,SIU did mention that he will be making appearance one day and Baam is facing a person who he obviously needs a help to escape from, getting Urek to help him would be kinda repetitive,also Enryu is on a whole other level compared to FH so Rei would have no other option than to gtfo and leave it be,while he could kinda argue with Urek or Gustang since Gustang wasn’t that afraid of Urek himself but more of what he could do to his family. However I would like for Baam to solve this situation on his own,time has come that our guy grows up a pair and shows everyone why he is irregular with highest potential yet.
 

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The most important thing is inheriting his ability to absorb power.
I think they are likely to inherit his copy and absorbing talent though it would be somewhat weakened,but it would be more than enough for them since they only need to get hit with the skill and survive to learn it.On absorbing power,we already saw few examples on regulars having though far inferior to Baam's like white and red t though red t isn't regular and admin fragment i doubt baam's seed is any worse than red t since he carries 2 admin fragment around on his body,so there is no need for them to not inherit it. Baam is literally a walking treasure tove since he is like more than 3 irregular and 1 god parent on his own.
 

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?? Fenryl didn't use spell againist Baam,i'm pretty sure it would dispel as soon as it touches baam. Fenryl is a shinheuh itself,and was using it's own ability to teleport places with kaiser. Fenryl only used his teeth to penetrate baam's skin,so it's not spell.
Yes it is. The spell was about making the wounds bleed continously. Bam needed Kaiser to remove the spell or he would have bled to death.

The first spell he broke was the rice pot's spell during second revolution between the dallar show and Name Hunt Station.
It took a lot of effort to do so.

After finishing his revolution, spells broke just by touching him.
Except for White's spell of course, but that is bad wrighting.

Revolution being all about manifesting the true nature of an irregular, I think his abilities to break spells is similar to his way to destroy traditional shinsu control. I believe it is an irregular thing and not related to Arlene.
 

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While Fen had spell-related attacks - as a spirit - it is still technically classified as a shinheuh. It seems a living creature that has passed can leave a ghost/soul as a spirit that is also tamable (maybe the living creature first was tamed, making the spirit unable to be free as well) - see also Holan and his summons.

Maybe this gets to the root of anima and shinheuh in the first place - maybe it is the soul is taken over by the anima/summoner, whether that soul is in a living body or from a deceased creature.
 

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What if actually Enryu comes,SIU did mention that he will be making appearance one day and Baam is facing a person who he obviously needs a help to escape from, getting Urek to help him would be kinda repetitive,also Enryu is on a whole other level compared to FH so Rei would have no other option than to gtfo and leave it be,while he could kinda argue with Urek or Gustang since Gustang wasn’t that afraid of Urek himself but more of what he could do to his family. However I would like for Baam to solve this situation on his own,time has come that our guy grows up a pair and shows everyone why he is irregular with highest potential yet.
Enryu coming would be so epic. Confusion, then a realization that they are standing in front of someone that killed an admin. I doubt it will happen though, SIU can't feed us too much cool shit in a row or that might actually become a standard again.
 

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Yes it is. The spell was about making the wounds bleed continously. Bam needed Kaiser to remove the spell or he would have bled to death.

The first spell he broke was the rice pot's spell during second revolution between the dallar show and Name Hunt Station.
It took a lot of effort to do so.

After finishing his revolution, spells broke just by touching him.
Except for White's spell of course, but that is bad wrighting.

Revolution being all about manifesting the true nature of an irregular, I think his abilities to break spells is similar to his way to destroy traditional shinsu control. I believe it is an irregular thing and not related to Arlene.
thanks for pointing out. I forgot about this.
 

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Not sure how accurate the t/l is but Traum states that Jahad ordered Baam dead 3x now!!! 1st must of been the 2nd Floor, when Ren sent the sea beast after him 2nd last station and 3rd being the Nest
 

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Soul and human can be different tho (FOD case)
Because of that I rather made shinheuh and spirit of shinheuh different too
In case something like evk, khell helam, elanie, arckinak, and hollan that can manifest their spirit of shinheuh to real thing maybe because their talent to do that or gifted inheritance from their descendant.
Sure. The point was though, in the discussion of whether Fen - or other creatures for that matter - is either a spirit or a shinheuh, the correct answer is it is BOTH.
 

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There's also the time where Zahard personally strangled Baam in hidden floor
 
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