American Politics

[Sanity Check]

Thought of the day

If lies prevent one from knowing themself or their enemy.

Are they guaranteed defeat.

 

[M3J]

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos demonstrate just how thin skinned business elites really are and how dependent they are upon welfare for the wealthy. They also demonstrate how elites don't fully understand politics 101. If the GOP wins 100% control of both Congress and the presidency, which is easy thanks to a combination of geography and gerrymandering, they'll quickly turn this country into an anocracy like what Russia has become.

What do you mean? Elon and Bezos seem to understand politics well enough to know that the GOP will do everything to make sure the wealthy and big businesses do even better, especially if it means the politicians get more money in doing so. The GOP's excuse for giving these two groups more money is "trickle down," no matter how wrong that is.

 

[Sanity Check]

World has just 10 weeks' worth of wheat left after Ukraine war

Food supplies are being rocked by Russia's invasion of the 'breadbasket of Europe'

www.telegraph.co.uk

A food insecurity expert predicts that there's only 10 weeks of wheat supplies left in the world as Russian invasion disrupts production

"Conditions today are worse than those experienced in 2007 and 2008," Sara Menker, CEO of agriculture analytics firm Gro Intelligence, told the UN.

www.insider.com

World Has Just ‘10 Weeks’ of Wheat Supplies Left in Storage, Analyst Warns

www.theepochtimes.com

World has just ten weeks' worth of wheat left after Ukraine war
Food supplies are being rocked by Russia's invasion of the 'breadbasket of Europe'

...



Is this true

 

[Franckie]

But Jeff Bezos and Leon Musk would like that because that is where you dont look kindly on unions.

They support Republicans now because of their belief that the Democrats are being mean to them instead of worshiping the very ground they walk on.

What do you mean? Elon and Bezos seem to understand politics well enough to know that the GOP will do everything to make sure the wealthy and big businesses do even better, especially if it means the politicians get more money in doing so. The GOP's excuse for giving these two groups more money is "trickle down," no matter how wrong that is.

This is a common misconception. Political power > Economic power. Nobody gives a hoot how wealthy you are. What matters is whether those in gov't like you or not, and if they don't, they have plenty of methods to make your life miserable until you fall into line.

 

[xi0]

This is a common misconception. Political power > Economic power. Nobody gives a hoot how wealthy you are. What matters is whether those in gov't like you or not, and if they don't, they have plenty of methods to make your life miserable until you fall into line.

Political and Economic power go hand in hand though. If you have one, you can easily have the other. So I don't think weighing one against the other is of much consequence in the end.

 

[Franckie]

Political and Economic power go hand in hand though. If you have one, you can easily have the other. So I don't think weighing one against the other is of much consequence in the end.

While it is true that wealth and politics are interdependent, the key distinction is that political power is essentially the state's monopoly on violence. Countries like China and Russia are pretty blatant about it whereas other countries like the US are more subtle about it.

 

[M3J]

They support Republicans now because of their belief that the Democrats are being mean to them instead of worshiping the very ground they walk on.



This is a common misconception. Political power > Economic power. Nobody gives a hoot how wealthy you are. What matters is whether those in gov't like you or not, and if they don't, they have plenty of methods to make your life miserable until you fall into line.

Yet politicians do things for entities that give them money, and they do their best to make sure the wealthy get wealthier, businesses do better or survive, and give both free handouts while whining about the impoverished getting aid. Politicians definitely care about wealth, and they work hard in trying to brainwash people into thinking hard work = wealthy and poverty is caused by laziness, which is probably one reason how republicans still get support.

I mean, Elon is bullshitting his way into justifying his support for republicans, because democrats are allegedly pro-union.

 

[xi0]

I just don't get how anyone of the "intelligence" of Musk would make the kind of statement he did about Democrat being the "party of division & hate", especially since he said the were the "kindness party". This kind of reductive nonsense is only being said to appeal to a specific group of people, otherwise Musk is a moron.

Unless he sees being pro-union as "divisive" or paying taxes as "hateful".

 

[M3J]

I think he's both trying to appeal and justify supporting Reps or hyping them up so they win the majority and help him and his shitty companies. Probably even set himself up for future presidential run too, because there's no way anyone can complain about Dems being divisive and hateful but somehow support Reps when they're 1000x worse.

 

[kkck]

So... Ricky Gervais is team terf?

 

[xi0]

 

[M3J]

Kooky republicans. They claim to be pro-life and do everything the opposite.

 

[Sanity Check]

Fix high gas prices, food shortages, inflation and supply chain issues.





How is gun control the most relevant topic now?

 

[xi0]

Fix high gas prices, food shortages, inflation and supply chain issues.





How is gun control the most relevant topic now?

Because 19+ 2nd/3rd/4th grade schoolchildren are dead

Is this an attempt at trolling or some sort of Alex Jones-level bullshit?

 

[Sanity Check]

Because 19+ 2nd/3rd/4th grade schoolchildren are dead

Is this an attempt at trolling or some sort of Alex Jones-level bullshit?

Well, let's see what public opinion says.

(Are you aware of the history of gun control and gun bans in the last 100 years of history btw?)

Last I checked, the public wasn't swayed by claims of 600,000+ COVID fatalities.

Will they be swayed by this?

...

I know you find it a compelling reason for gun bans.

But does anyone else?

...

Look at ukraine which enjoyed gun bans until Putin invaded.

At which point they may have realized gun bans are not the great idea some think.

...

Look at american politicians scrambling to arm ukrainian militas.

Look at Biden spending $40 billion to give ukrainian civilians guns, missiles and drones.

...

If people in ukraine can have that stuff, I should be able to have it, too.

Equality. Am I right.

 

[xi0]

I don't give a fuck what public opinion says

--- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2022, Original Post Date: May 25, 2022 ---

To heartlessly talk about "public opinion" or try to rank importance for issues when 20 Elementary School students are dead, and likely many more.

The authorities are collecting DNA from relatives to help identify victims... just think about that for a second.

--- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2022 ---

Look at ukraine which enjoyed gun bans until Putin invaded.

At which point they may have realized gun bans are not the great idea some think.

What a stupid fucking analogy this is... to suggest that Putin wouldn't have done what he did if only the civilians were carrying around rifles before the invasion happened. Get a grip.

And to bring this shit up now of all times.... going to fucking school isn't analogous to war.

 

[Sanity Check]

To heartlessly talk about "public opinion" or try to rank importance for issues when 20 Elementary School students are dead, and likely many more.

The authorities are collecting DNA from relatives to help identify victims... just think about that for a second.

"Think about the children we have to protect from COVID with vaccines."

"Did I say COVID, I meant to say guns."

...

Haven't people heard this before?

Would have to guess the narrative is wearing thin by now.

 

[xi0]

"Think about the children we have to protect from COVID with vaccines."

"Did I say COVID, I meant to say guns."

...

Haven't people heard this before?

Would have to guess the narrative is wearing thin by now.

It must be truly exhilarating to snarkily remark on media "narratives" when second grader's bodies can't even be identified through dental records, huh?

It is truly remarkable that you're still able to be this taken with yourself with this kind of reductive, shitbrained take.

--- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2022, Original Post Date: May 25, 2022 ---

Apparently 4chan is spreading false info about the shooter as "a joke", and our public officials are just eating it up

 

[Hakuteiken]

Fix high gas prices, food shortages, inflation and supply chain issues.





How is gun control the most relevant topic now?

Is this the whole list?
If it's missing more stuff, please add them so that people can know when they can finally form a public opinion about children getting killed.

Well, let's see what public opinion says.

(Are you aware of the history of gun control and gun bans in the last 100 years of history btw?)

Last I checked, the public wasn't swayed by claims of 600,000+ COVID fatalities.

Will they be swayed by this?

...

I know you find it a compelling reason for gun bans.

But does anyone else?

...

Look at ukraine which enjoyed gun bans until Putin invaded.

At which point they may have realized gun bans are not the great idea some think.

...

Look at american politicians scrambling to arm ukrainian militas.

Look at Biden spending $40 billion to give ukrainian civilians guns, missiles and drones.

...

If people in ukraine can have that stuff, I should be able to have it, too.

Equality. Am I right.

Do you feel that uncomfortable when you mistakenly not think the exact same way masses do? That must be fragile.

This is just an unbelievable tangent to draw, but regardless, last time I checked, US were not actively warring in Texas.

"Think about the children we have to protect from COVID with vaccines."

"Did I say COVID, I meant to say guns."

...

Haven't people heard this before?

Would have to guess the narrative is wearing thin by now.

I'm impressed you have the stomach to even type this out.

It speaks volumes of your potential for the future, I suppose.

 

[Sanity Check]

I'm impressed you have the stomach to even type this out.

It speaks volumes of your potential for the future, I suppose.

If people cared about children.

Wouldn't they do more to make baby formula more affordable and accessible.

Would they be pro life, rather than pro late term abortion.

How do you reconcile what people say, with their decision making process and history.