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Now that I think of it, is the movie canon? Hiyoshi give Kirihara that was able to fight PoP rather evenly a good match. Does it means he's on that level?
The thing I was thinking about recently is I wish the camp invited the other nonregulars. I'm sure Arai etc can't keep up, I'm sure they have their own summer training. But letting them be at the low level courts would at least be good for the schools next year (not that there should be another Jr. High story).

For real, how can anyone besides Ryoma Kintarou face Kirihara. Essentially you have to throw S1 away and just hope to win the other games. Likewise Seigaku should just bank on Kaidoh Momo singles.

St. Rudolph sent their entire weak lineup. Other schools could have sent more guys to powerup.
 

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The thing I was thinking about recently is I wish the camp invited the other nonregulars. I'm sure Arai etc can't keep up, I'm sure they have their own summer training. But letting them be at the low level courts would at least be good for the schools next year (not that there should be another Jr. High story).

For real, how can anyone besides Ryoma Kintarou face Kirihara. Essentially you have to throw S1 away and just hope to win the other games. Likewise Seigaku should just bank on Kaidoh Momo singles.

St. Rudolph sent their entire weak lineup. Other schools could have sent more guys to powerup.
Rikkai will lose all their key players. Kirihara and the New Captain will be the only one left. They may recruit some talented freshman though.

Hyotei have a large player pool. Maybe there are some hidden gems there.

Seigaku will be significantly weaker too. Ryoma, Kaido, Momo left. Arai will be the 4th strongest? LMAO.

Shinten have Kintarou and Zaizen. Thats it.

I guess, if story continues in Seigaku next year. They should introduce Talented Freshmen.
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Rikkai will lose all their key players. Kirihara and the New Captain will be the only one left. They may recruit some talented freshman though.

Hyotei have a large player pool. Maybe there are some hidden gems there.

Seigaku will be significantly weaker too. Ryoma, Kaido, Momo left. Arai will be the 4th strongest? LMAO.

Shinten have Kintarou and Zaizen. Thats it.

I guess, if story continues in Seigaku next year. They should introduce Talented Freshmen.
Next Year will be like this:

Seigaku - Ryoma, Momoshiro, Kaido

Hyotei - Kabaji, Chotaro, Hiyoshi
(They have some pre regulars though)

Shintenhoji - Kintarou, Zaizen

Rikkaidai - Akaya, Tamagawa, Urayama

Now, other players should come from talented freshmen, or at least improved non regular. Remember, Hiyoshi was not a regular in Hyotei initially, but now he is the captain.
 

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Rikkai will lose all their key players. Kirihara and the New Captain will be the only one left. They may recruit some talented freshman though.

Hyotei have a large player pool. Maybe there are some hidden gems there.

Seigaku will be significantly weaker too. Ryoma, Kaido, Momo left. Arai will be the 4th strongest? LMAO.

Shinten have Kintarou and Zaizen. Thats it.

I guess, if story continues in Seigaku next year. They should introduce Talented Freshmen.
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Next Year will be like this:

Seigaku - Ryoma, Momoshiro, Kaido

Hyotei - Kabaji, Chotaro, Hiyoshi
(They have some pre regulars though)

Shintenhoji - Kintarou, Zaizen

Rikkaidai - Akaya, Tamagawa, Urayama

Now, other players should come from talented freshmen, or at least improved non regular. Remember, Hiyoshi was not a regular in Hyotei initially, but now he is the captain.
To be fair, Momoshiro BJK and Kaidou Laser/Snake combo isn't something other school can contest with outside of Akaya/Kintarou, whom will probably lost to Ryoma anyways unless they switch singles around and throw away Singles 1. Maybe Hiyoshi can if Movie is canon but that's it. Hyoutei and Seigaku seem to be rather dominating. Seigaku pretty much got 3 secured singles win unless they are playing against Hyoutei.
 

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To be fair, Momoshiro BJK and Kaidou Laser/Snake combo isn't something other school can contest with outside of Akaya/Kintarou, whom will probably lost to Ryoma anyways unless they switch singles around and throw away Singles 1. Maybe Hiyoshi can if Movie is canon but that's it. Hyoutei and Seigaku seem to be rather dominating. Seigaku pretty much got 3 secured singles win unless they are playing against Hyoutei.
I think Shintenhoji have potential since both Kintarou and Zaizen are young prodigies. But they need help.

Seigaku will have a hard time in doubles. If no good doubles players join. So, they need to always use Ryoma, Kaido, and Momo in Singles. They will be like Sure lose in doubles, and sure win in singles most frequently. And that is assuming ryoma, kaido,and momo will play singles exclusively the whole kanto which is unlikely for Konomi. Haha

The best way to upset Seigaku is a quick kill lineup. Hyotei can achieve this when, they put Hiyoshi (Movie Version) in S3. Assuming the order is 2 doubles and then 3 singles . Fudomine can too. Since they have 6 Regulars left iirc.

Rikkaidai will be in trouble. Akaya is the only one left with Quality. Tamagawa is undeveloped yet. Unless, there are some Rikkai good second stringers who just cant be in first stringers last year because rikkai lineup is strong.
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Midoriyama will be interesting too.

They actually defeated Josen in Manga. But for strange reason, In Anime, Josen defeated them. Lol.

But all of their regulars are retained. They were destroyed by Seigaku in straight sets last year (manga), but maybe they improved.

Josen will lose all their quality singles players.

It will be a good thing to bring Nagoya back and their foreigners. They need more screentime than just being toyed by Rikkai. Lmao. (Rikkai deliberately losing first 2 singles matches. Lol)
 
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I think Shintenhoji have potential since both Kintarou and Zaizen are young prodigies. But they need help.

Seigaku will have a hard time in doubles. If no good doubles players join. So, they need to always use Ryoma, Kaido, and Momo in Singles. They will be like Sure lose in doubles, and sure win in singles most frequently. And that is assuming ryoma, kaido,and momo will play singles exclusively the whole kanto which is unlikely for Konomi. Haha

The best way to upset Seigaku is a quick kill lineup. Hyotei can achieve this when, they put Hiyoshi (Movie Version) in S3. Assuming the order is 2 doubles and then 3 singles . Fudomine can too. Since they have 6 Regulars left iirc.

Rikkaidai will be in trouble. Akaya is the only one left with Quality. Tamagawa is undeveloped yet. Unless, there are some Rikkai good second stringers who just cant be in first stringers last year because rikkai lineup is strong.
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Midoriyama will be interesting too.

They actually defeated Josen in Manga. But for strange reason, In Anime, Josen defeated them. Lol.

But all of their regulars are retained. They were destroyed by Seigaku in straight sets last year (manga), but maybe they improved.

Josen will lose all their quality singles players.

It will be a good thing to bring Nagoya back and their foreigners. They need more screentime than just being toyed by Rikkai. Lmao. (Rikkai deliberately losing first 2 singles matches. Lol)
Midoriyama's coach changed his approach and Kiraku learnt how to like tennis (ended up getting a Nationals win along with another member). It's not impressive but something, certainly more than what Yuuta got to show us and yet he got invited.

That said it's kinda hard to picture how next year will go.

For Seigaku it looks really bad honestly. With Ryoma out, it's only Momo and Kaidou. Konomi went as far as showing us that in all of the intra school matches, in total the second string won ONE game, the drop off is huge. They'll make it to the nationals comfortably imo but I don't see them winning it because of that. Thanks Konomi.

Fudomine is less top heavy but much more balanced. They'll have the exact same team minus Tachibana. That's almost a whole lineup at national level and now they have top tier training installations thanks to Atobe.

St Ru stands no chance without Mizuki, ideally he becomes a part time manager. On top of it, they got a really small pool of players given it's a typical private school.

Yamabuki loses the whole core of their lineup, their 2 strong doubles and Sengoku. They got an even smaller pool of players than St Ru. They still have Banda and Dan got that Akutsu training so who knows, but yeah they look bad.

Midoriyama I already addressed, I like their chances to have a deep showing in the nationals. Unfortunately Konomi didn't give us Kiraku at the camp :(

Jousei is wildly different in the manga and the only 2nd year we "know" for sure is a 2nd year didn't even make it to the lineup vs Midoriyama.

Rokkaku is a powerhouse. A perennial nationals team with a big player pool (second biggest quantity of members in these schools, only behind Hyotei) with a good coach and good albeit rustic installations. They still have David who went to the camp and Aoi who was said to be training as hard to not fall back (along with the rest of the members).

Hyotei walk to the nationals imo and maybe finally crack it into top 4 if Hiyoshi can be half of Atobe. Movie is not canon afaik (and hope) but as a player he's still good tbh, Konomi even gave him the highest stat total of the 2nd years, tied with demon akaya (...iirc).

Rikkai only keep Kirihara (and now Tamagawa) but honestly they have the third most members all of them being part of the toughest training in Kanto, they'll be fine. I don't think Urayama will ever be a regular tbh given that Yukimura had good potential... As a ball boy.

As much as I liked Higa's new captain story I struggle to see them do well without Kite in command. Depends on how many people survive their training camps, I guess. They aren't from Kanto, at least, so they could still make it to the Nationals with ease but yeah. Also their step seemed to win games on its own.

Shiten are a powerhouse with almost 50 members, have the best player in the country and (imo) the best captain who is also quite a decent player. This might be their year.

Nagoya made it all the way to nationals semis with their own players (after some restructuring, maybe?) and they are seemingly keeping Krauser. They likely aren't contenders but they'll do well.

All the other schools are uh too minor. Maybe Makinofuji manages to be a powerhouse again now that Kadowaki is gone, lol.

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Midoriyama's coach changed his approach and Kiraku learnt how to like tennis (ended up getting a Nationals win along with another member). It's not impressive but something, certainly more than what Yuuta got to show us and yet he got invited.

That said it's kinda hard to picture how next year will go.

For Seigaku it looks really bad honestly. With Ryoma out, it's only Momo and Kaidou. Konomi went as far as showing us that in all of the intra school matches, in total the second string won ONE game, the drop off is huge. They'll make it to the nationals comfortably imo but I don't see them winning it because of that. Thanks Konomi.

Fudomine is less top heavy but much more balanced. They'll have the exact same team minus Tachibana. That's almost a whole lineup at national level and now they have top tier training installations thanks to Atobe.

St Ru stands no chance without Mizuki, ideally he becomes a part time manager. On top of it, they got a really small pool of players given it's a typical private school.

Yamabuki loses the whole core of their lineup, their 2 strong doubles and Sengoku. They got an even smaller pool of players than St Ru. They still have Banda and Dan got that Akutsu training so who knows, but yeah they look bad.

Midoriyama I already addressed, I like their chances to have a deep showing in the nationals. Unfortunately Konomi didn't give us Kiraku at the camp :(

Jousei is wildly different in the manga and the only 2nd year we "know" for sure is a 2nd year didn't even make it to the lineup vs Midoriyama.

Rokkaku is a powerhouse. A perennial nationals team with a big player pool (second biggest quantity of members in these schools, only behind Hyotei) with a good coach and good albeit rustic installations. They still have David who went to the camp and Aoi who was said to be training as hard to not fall back (along with the rest of the members).

Hyotei walk to the nationals imo and maybe finally crack it into top 4 if Hiyoshi can be half of Atobe. Movie is not canon afaik (and hope) but as a player he's still good tbh, Konomi even gave him the highest stat total of the 2nd years, tied with demon akaya (...iirc).

Rikkai only keep Kirihara (and now Tamagawa) but honestly they have the third most members all of them being part of the toughest training in Kanto, they'll be fine. I don't think Urayama will ever be a regular tbh given that Yukimura had good potential... As a ball boy.

As much as I liked Higa's new captain story I struggle to see them do well without Kite in command. Depends on how many people survive their training camps, I guess. They aren't from Kanto, at least, so they could still make it to the Nationals with ease but yeah. Also their step seemed to win games on its own.

Shiten are a powerhouse with almost 50 members, have the best player in the country and (imo) the best captain who is also quite a decent player. This might be their year.

Nagoya made it all the way to nationals semis with their own players (after some restructuring, maybe?) and they are seemingly keeping Krauser. They likely aren't contenders but they'll do well.

All the other schools are uh too minor. Maybe Makinofuji manages to be a powerhouse again now that Kadowaki is gone, lol.

Obligatory GINKAAAAAA
Shiten as in Shiten Hoji. Yea, if Ryoma does go absent to America Kin is the best. But Ryoma would come back for that one match that will get canceled anyways.

In PoT Another Story, Shiten Hoji is one of the smallest tennis clubs in the country.
 

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Shiten as in Shiten Hoji. Yea, if Ryoma does go absent to America Kin is the best. But Ryoma would come back for that one match that will get canceled anyways.

In PoT Another Story, Shiten Hoji is one of the smallest tennis clubs in the country.
Yeah but that OVA (like... Most of them) took a bunch of liberties. In reality Shiten has 48 members this year. For reference, Rikkai has 52, Seigaku 33, Rokkaku 66.

In the next year's captain's story Ryoma isn't around so I think it's safe to say he will just move to the US.
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Honestly that OVA never made any sense, to the point that the team has 9 regulars so even if you squeeze the timelines and have the team without Chitose and Kintarou, they are still 7.
 
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