omo! but in fake spanish
So? You are confused maybe, but everybody is trying to find a green to trade with, is has nothing to do with affiliation.Because it sounds like you are exactly trying to do that what you just a minute ago acused me to be plotting. Like you're being red and trying to try one of them who you green-scanned before to trade with you so next phase you're truely green. I mean, you must see that, don't you?
Just that you're contradicting yourself. Your trade thing as you earlier mentioned won't even work as if both townies target each other you just become yourself again and nobody confirmed nothing.So? You are confused maybe, but everybody is trying to find a green to trade with, is has nothing to do with affiliation.
Also I accused you of being scum based on my reading of your playstyle, and suggested that if you survive today I won't be able to lynch you tomorrow because you will have successfully traded with a green probably, it not the same thing.
You are not accusing me of being mafia, you are saying I'm uncooperative, so no it not the same thing at all.
Are you drunk or something?Just that you're contradicting yourself. Your trade thing as you earlier mentioned won't even work as if both townies target each other you just become yourself again and nobody confirmed nothing.
Strwaman argument.If you were truely a paranoid townie, you would be saying "screw you everyone and your plans, I am targeting Gry-chan, try stop me". But you are not. For some reason you want them to agree so that you can cooperate who will target whom -> they you since you are mafia and need their "concent" or rather their prio 4 action lol. Busted.
Were you joking before this line?On a more serious note, I am stuck with a guy who want to keep his role (or is mafia) which brings me to a moral dilemma myself.
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That's not what I said, you should probably get some sleep after staying up so late and develope your brainiac plans.Are you drunk or something?
That exactly what the table you made does, it a 1 to 1 trade and nothing will change tomorrow, unless a townie hits a mafia.
All I said was I'm choosing my own partner for my own reasons related to my role, you are not the boss of me
Strwaman argument.
I was promoting this approach before you even join us in the game and create the alphabetical list.
No you want me to be something else? So that you can bust me?
Were you joking before this line?
Elaborate.At no point I was suggesting to nullify the whole thing by getting no results at all.
What you said the townie 1 targets townie 2, while townie 2 targets townie 1 thing you quoted earlier. It wasn't in the rules so I didn't see it, but obviously if that's established by the hosts why would we do that. What the hell are you taking me for.Elaborate.
I still dont see it as a "sacrifice" but ok, this goes nowhereI am role-fluid and will happily swap directly.
Only issue is escorts blocking the open swaps.
You are describing what i see as a sacrifice for the possible benefit of town, and I agree the player won't want to do this given team town is not a team at all.
A mafia would make the sacrifice.
Breaking the mechanic huh, tbh Im not fond of this for the exact reason I told Brandish, if Im lucky and Marm isnt scum then woo nice, but if she isnt and I become scum then ai basically lost the entire game on a stupid cointoss.Summary:
- Green weapons can swap, non-green weapons can not.
- Idea is that we each swap in pairs of 2. Example: Asako(Doc) swap-targets Misha(Det), Misha swap-targets Asako. Asako is still Doc, Misha is still Det. They know they are townies both.
If Misha was Mafia Boss, Asako becomes Mafia Boss and Misha becomes Doc. We know a mafia now.
- By swapping in pairs of 2, we ensure that on Day 2 we have a lot of townies confirmed at the very least, and best case scenario we also know several mafia.
- EZ win.
- You can swap and use your active night role at same night, so use both if applicable.
- Blockers like Prostitute/Escort could interfere somewhat, but even if they do we will know a lot more.
- This will work 100% if everyone does their part. The more refuse the worse it gets for us. Please be cooperative. Uncooperatives will be lynched, provided they have no good reasons.
Asako AwkwardMisha Brandish Crescent Jinx Demonspeed Erinyes Evil3ye Gajeel GB GrySun Holt James Lambu Marmalade Shad shinobi SirSamuel SonOfDaws Tatsumaki Vandred
^This up here is the fair alphabetically sorted 2-pair of who swaps with who. This assumes gnut lynched. If someone other than gnut is lynched, replace the lynched person's name up there with gnut.
TAGS - Please read this, and write in the thread your thoughts. If you like/dislike, if you will do it or not, and most importantly your reasons why.
@Asako
@AwkwardMisha
@Brandish μ
@Crescent Jinx
@Demonspeed
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@Erinyes
@Evil3ye
@Gajeel
@GB
@Holt
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@James Rye
@Lambu
@MarmaladeSky
@Shad
@shinobi
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@gnut
@SirSamuel016
@SonOfDaws
@Tatsumaki
@Vandred
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Because your hints don't matter in the grand scheme of things, regardless what role you have. Be it Vigilante, Det, Bulletproof, any role whatsoever, it will all be useful regardless which player it is on. Doesn't need to be me. Docs can protect non-BP people like me if they suspect I will die.
And why the list, simply because it is the most fair. Alphabetically sorted, nobody can complain about it(or should not at least).
But I will give you this Shad, if this plan collapses and too many disagree or too many don't want to swap with their person, we could swap together. Just that I know you can be sneaky and cutthroat, and could see you setting me up with a SK or something to screw me over.
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Why only half?
I have to agree with gnut that the plan makes this the worst game to date, so not a fan. If most people wants to follow through then so be it but I repeat, this is not fun and not a Mafia Game anymore.You know, since non of us townies want to end up screwing ourselves over, I would start with the list and then make it short by colouring in the people that generally don't oppose the idea and people that do. The people from the latter I would exclude right away from the swap as it seems dangerous, or what do you think?
So we would ideally have everyone say yes or no and then pair up the yeses (and basically start lynching the no people lol).
So would go like that (correct it if something is wrong or changes): [reply to this to get yourself corrected in colour]
Yes
No
No response yet
gnut
Asako AwkwardMisha Brandish Crescent Jinx Demonspeed Erinyes Evil3ye Gajeel GB GrySun Holt James Lambu Marmalade Shad shinobi SirSamuel SonOfDaws Tatsumaki Vandred
Wouldn't mind since your willingness to share sounds like you are town too, but I will wait for more people's opinion.@Lambu when you are back, let me know if you want to follow the list or if you want to trade with me.
But it‘s a rather low %. A risk we can take to win. The unlucky ones end up unlucky, but most of us currently town will remain town and win. Comparatively it‘s riskier to use Cowboy role.Asako's reaction is perfectly natural. It doesn't matter if Town wins if you aren't Town anymore.
Oh shit I didnt think about thatIt sounds too easy. What if all the scums are traitors?
If I do that you won't be happy about getting my role.Shad you‘d be fine with you targetting me for swap while I don‘t target anyone, correct? This way we swap roles for real, you get mine I get yours.
I think it would be fine if at least everyone agreed to swap and picked their own targets. But when everything is decided like this? No. I don't like what you said about swapping with Asako too if she ends up unlucky (I know you would never do that). You didn't in the Saint Seiya game or something?But it‘s a rather low %. A risk we can take to win. The unlucky ones end up unlucky, but most of us currently town will remain town and win. Comparatively it‘s riskier to use Cowboy role.