Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Darklord#10]

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This is exactly what I've been saying. Kirin has never even mentioned the spar between him and misaki not even once. He appeared to be taking his fight with laxus more serious than the spar

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How's Misaki slightly weaker than kirin. Kirin has not mentioned his spar with misaki. Like he literally hasn't talked about it and again selene didn't particular care about the other fights but she was intrigued by laxus and kirin. You know something I'm even starting to think that our MCs haven't progressed in strength or anything because with the events of Alvarez they should have been able to compete with Diabolos guild. Diabolos guild on paper are far stronger than or at the very least equal to fT top tiers.

 

[sharkai]

This is exactly what I've been saying. Kirin has never even mentioned the spar between him and misaki not even once. He appeared to be taking his fight with laxus more serious than the spar

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How's Misaki slightly weaker than kirin. Kirin has not mentioned his spar with misaki. Like he literally hasn't talked about it and again selene didn't particular care about the other fights but she was intrigued by laxus and kirin. You know something I'm even starting to think that our MCs haven't progressed in strength or anything because with the events of Alvarez they should have been able to compete with Diabolos guild. Diabolos guild on paper are far stronger than or at the very least equal to fT top tiers.

because mentioning one spar does not make a person superior or inferior. its just stupid cope.

kirin was interested in the lacrima, nothing more

because only hype we have for kirin is, he is one of the strongest (selene) and he is the strongest (from kirin). in otherwords, only non bais he has is that he is one of the strongest. who is the other one, most likely miskai, she is sparring with him, kiria calls her strong while ignoring kirin.

the way i see it
1) strongest hype= other people wank the bejesus out of him. bluenote, jura and irene
2) stronger than normal = other people openly admit they are weaker than or scared of him, like midnight.
3) slightly stronger = what kirin got. he hyped himself and no one else says he is strongest.

 

[Darklord#10]

because mentioning one spar does not make a person superior or inferior. its just stupid cope.

kirin was interested in the lacrima, nothing more

because only hype we have for kirin is, he is one of the strongest (selene) and he is the strongest (from kirin). in otherwords, only non bais he has is that he is one of the strongest. who is the other one, most likely miskai, she is sparring with him, kiria calls her strong while ignoring kirin.

the way i see it
1) strongest hype= other people wank the bejesus out of him. bluenote, jura and irene
2) stronger than normal = other people openly admit they are weaker than or scared of him, like midnight.
3) slightly stronger = what kirin got. he hyped himself and no one else says he is strongest.

This logic is flawed because kyria didn't even mention suzaku or haku both who are ddsk

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because mentioning one spar does not make a person superior or inferior. its just stupid cope.

kirin was interested in the lacrima, nothing more

because only hype we have for kirin is, he is one of the strongest (selene) and he is the strongest (from kirin). in otherwords, only non bais he has is that he is one of the strongest. who is the other one, most likely miskai, she is sparring with him, kiria calls her strong while ignoring kirin.

the way i see it
1) strongest hype= other people wank the bejesus out of him. bluenote, jura and irene
2) stronger than normal = other people openly admit they are weaker than or scared of him, like midnight.
3) slightly stronger = what kirin got. he hyped himself and no one else says he is strongest.

I do agree with the self hype and all because even according to suzaku they're all this equals he never said any of them was the strongest

 

[sharkai]

This logic is flawed because kyria didn't even mention suzaku or haku both who are ddsk

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I do agree with the self hype and all because even according to suzaku they're all this equals he never said any of them was the strongest

how is it flawed. for kyria its misaki worth mentioning.
kirin didnt get the hype like midnight and minerva. why should we treat him like them

i think kirin can beat misaki high diff, or maybe extreme diff.

i think high diff is fair

for me its
Kirin > Misaki > Suzaku > Haku
Kirin and Misaki were the only one whose mp were compared to Gildarts and fought equal opponents (laxus>=erza)

 

[GL_Nova]

what does the manga tells us?
and laxus didnt need amps, no red lightning, no statement about blood empowering him, i see
dragon seal is an amp? please show me that in the manga
why do we pretend, are you saying erza didnt hold back and was not shocked by laxus improvement?

what are talking about, i dont understand the last two lines at all.



when did erza used pof against miskai.
are we gonna call all spells by people amp now?
when did she says she is weaker than kirin?
kirin is one of the stronges knightst, why do you make your own manga?
RL is equal to erza low tier attack blumblatt. only charcater that lost to that move was aria.

no. laxus got huge power up and kirin lost his strongest weapon and kirin was in emotional distress when laxus took him out




misaki is only slightly weaker than kirin, provided of course he has that coffin.
er no misaki said erza should be honored to be around kirin level when she used that spell, nothing more

at this point, erza picking up a stick from the ground would be amp for her lol

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my headcannon, sorry mate. i normally give benefit of doubt to the other guy.

In order.

It tells us that DS magic is an ehancement. You are now arguing that a seal to make her magic into DS magic isn't a boost..
Please provide a single time i have argued he didn't have amps? She needed an amp to challenge him, he responded by showing his own new amp to counter her literal DS magic amp and her DS weapon: 2 amps vs 1. SHe still needed to boost her attack with Gray and Natsu to do any major damage, and still lost.
Laxus told her stop fighting like she's fighting a friend. An she did, and she had a wonderful showing with her new magic and new amps, and then she fell to HER KNEES and proclaimed his victroy and gave a speech about finally realizing why everyone else is in awe of him. What of it buddy?

Then i'm really worried about your comprehension skills my guy. Simple. Erza is surprised by how powerful Laxus is every time she sees him fight. She keeps thinking like you, and she keeps being wrong.

When she took over her dimension and attacked her with Jellal's magic while talking about how dare she sever her bonds? You're joking again right? Her entire reasoning to fight alone was her hair and bond with Jellal.
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-105-page-18.html
No, we're going call all the spells designed to amp a person (enchant them with someone else MP and abilities, modes, and forces). Same way Wendy enchanting Irene's magic onto her is an amp and different from her reaching the next level of Enchanter from training.
She literally brags about using her move against him and tells Erza to be honored to face the same move. That's how you feel about people weaker than you?? That's the impression you took from that?
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-105-page-11.html
Where do they suggest anybody else is? Go ahead, i'll wait. We already have the opening statement about being strongest, then the brag from Misaki, which completely contradicts your version of her being strongest. As well as his blatant statement he's the strongest. So, since we don't make our own manga, provide anything to contradict these 3-4 characters praising his power, which kills the whole "he didn't get hyped" arguement.
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-108-page-8.html
RL literally disintegrated Blumen Blatt. THis is like my 4th time doing this for you, but here we go again. page 1) Laxus fires Halberb, she dodges and requips P2) she fires off blumen blatt, laxus answers with RL and disintegrates all of her swords p3) his attack destroys the cathedral
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-4.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-5.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-6.html

Laxus got a Dragon King Mode. Now i'll be blatant, i want it to be a massive power up because aborbing his soul should have given him access to all of Elexion's abilities and I WANT him to Atmospheric magic suuuuuuuuper bad. Right now it's only a regular power up since we know he stacked TDK and RLD together. So how big it is is dabatable right now. Either way, RL Laxus put him on his ass. So i'm open to ideas. Other than that, he lost his only weapon. An electric mace is cool, but i'm not sold it's a massive part of his power. An emotional distress? he was surprised.

I'd bother with this part, but the panel posted directly contradics ya headcannon on the matter so there's that.

If the stick has it's own magic and she can suddenly cast wood or forest magic spells, then yes lmfao

 

[sharkai]

It tells us that DS magic is an ehancement. You are now arguing that a seal to make her magic into DS magic isn't a boost..
Please provide a single time i have argued he didn't have amps? She needed an amp to challenge him, he responded by showing his own new amp to counter her literal DS magic amp and her DS weapon: 2 amps vs 1. SHe still needed to boost her attack with Gray and Natsu to do any major damage, and still lost.
Laxus told her stop fighting like she's fighting a friend. An she did, and she had a wonderful showing with her new magic and new amps, and then she fell to HER KNEES and proclaimed his victroy and gave a speech about finally realizing why everyone else is in awe of him. What of it buddy?

DS seal has never been an enhancement. the seal improving ones power has not been mentioned. you just making that up

you mean 1 amp from erza vs 2 amp for laxus. erza new strong swords vs laxus red lightning mode plus blood boost
either how it doesnt matter.
laxus improved alot to match erza. you have to really cope to beilieve its erza who improved more than laxus, best you can do is their were around each other before and still are.

what are you talking about. erza finally agreed that laxus can replace her in defending fairy tail.

Then i'm really worried about your comprehension skills my guy. Simple. Erza is surprised by how powerful Laxus is every time she sees him fight. She keeps thinking like you, and she keeps being wrong.

sigh.
Erza is one of the strongest member of fairy tail, she is used as hype people.
and i was wrong?
i said they are around each other. and after only mention of laxus improvement and erza holding back, lo and behold, they are equal

When she took over her dimension and attacked her with Jellal's magic while talking about how dare she sever her bonds? You're joking again right? Her entire reasoning to fight alone was her hair and bond with Jellal.
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-105-page-18.html
No, we're going call all the spells designed to amp a person (enchant them with someone else MP and abilities, modes, and forces). Same way Wendy enchanting Irene's magic onto her is an amp and different from her reaching the next level of Enchanter from training.

so baically whenever she uses her new magic, its gonna be an amp, a new one lol

if that is pof then laxus needed pof to beat that demon gate

She literally brags about using her move against him and tells Erza to be honored to face the same move. That's how you feel about people weaker than you?? That's the impression you took from that?
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-105-page-11.html
Where do they suggest anybody else is? Go ahead, i'll wait. We already have the opening statement about being strongest, then the brag from Misaki, which completely contradicts your version of her being strongest. As well as his blatant statement he's the strongest. So, since we don't make our own manga, provide anything to contradict these 3-4 characters praising his power, which kills the whole "he didn't get hyped" arguement.

yes, misaki said this move she oly used against kirin.
meaning kirin = erza, when erza still hasnt won

that is not a brag.
we have opening statement that kirin is one of the strongest. not the strongest, get over it man
misaki and kirin used to spar, who wins, we dont know. all we know misaki was impressed that erza is around kirin level and that is why she made that statement and used that spell. erza overpowered it, kirin might have gotten stomped, who knows

RL literally disintegrated Blumen Blatt. THis is like my 4th time doing this for you, but here we go again. page 1) Laxus fires Halberb, she dodges and requips P2) she fires off blumen blatt, laxus answers with RL and disintegrates all of her swords p3) his attack destroys the cathedral
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-4.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-5.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-6.html

i think one page after the one you quoted we see slashes on the wall, weird lightning no.
look this standard manga thing, including fairy tail. when two equal power hits, this happens. otherwise the stronger prevails, natsu vs zancrow roars or bluenote black hole vs gildarts. this obviously didnt happen here. in other words blumblatt disintegrated reiko red lightning, sorry joking. they stalemated out. that is why erza nor laxus were moved from their positions.

and you shouldnt probably be this desperate for laxus. i mean destroyed the entire church but didnt even move erza, seriously

If the stick has it's own magic and she can suddenly cast wood or forest magic spells, then yes lmfao

why, against erza, when she is creating things you call them amp, here you want that stick to have its own magic

I'd bother with this part, but the panel posted directly contradics ya headcannon on the matter so there's that.

what headcannon mate. i only quotes things that are directly visible. you produce things yourself, like seal being a powerup or erza somehow improved more than laxus.
meanwhile what i am saying, erza held back (stated by laxus in the manga), laxus improved alot (stated by erza in the manga) or kirin is one of the strongest (stated by selene in the manga)
you just want me to see between lines and come to the exact same conclusion as you, as if you know how mishma is going to think

 

[Darklord#10]

laxus improved alot (stated by erza in the manga) or kirin is one of the strongest

Didn't Erza mean that laxus improved a lot from the last time she's assessed his strength. She didn't mean improve a lot to be able to compete with her and laxus bleeding isn't an amp it's a necessity for him to use red lightning. Erza needed gray and natsu's amp to deal damage to laxus. I don't get why you're putting misaki and erza over kirin and laxus. And misaki and kirin have only sparred once kirin won except he's lying about being the strongest. Misaki See's kirin as the benchmark of her strong. She even praises Erza for allowing her to use the same mp she used on kirin. Imo suzaku stomps misaki

 

[GL_Nova]

You kind of have the order wrong. Erza used her new weapons and enchantments while she was still holding back. When she stopped holding back the only thing she used was her basic equipment.

You have that backwards. Erza activates her seal and draws her ds sword first chapter. SHe starts off in her Lightning empress armor, and activates both after he casually destroys that shit with a base punch. She activates her dragon seal, which is given it's own panel. THen draws her sword. She stacks those before he goes Rl.
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-43-page-17.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-43-page-19.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-43-page-20.html

She never drops the DS seal. She's still using the DS sword after that comment, sooo.... i mean she changes armor, but her seal doesn't leave. She used the amp the entire fight. You see her seal revert when she releases her armor.
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-3.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-6.html

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because mentioning one spar does not make a person superior or inferior. its just stupid cope.

kirin was interested in the lacrima, nothing more

because only hype we have for kirin is, he is one of the strongest (selene) and he is the strongest (from kirin). in otherwords, only non bais he has is that he is one of the strongest. who is the other one, most likely miskai, she is sparring with him, kiria calls her strong while ignoring kirin.

the way i see it
1) strongest hype= other people wank the bejesus out of him. bluenote, jura and irene
2) stronger than normal = other people openly admit they are weaker than or scared of him, like midnight.
3) slightly stronger = what kirin got. he hyped himself and no one else says he is strongest.

No, stupid cope is trying to take a coloquiel statement that normally encapsulates the last thing a person said and apply it to an enire speech to argue a tie. That or creating some BS list to try and argue why the only character literally set aside and stated to be the strongest in favor of a candidate literally nobody mentioned. Misaki mentions Kirin. Who mentions Misaki as the strongest?


Provide a single piece of evidence that suggest Misaki is the strongest or let it go bro. We'll wait.

 

[GL_Nova]

How's it backwards? She uses the fire and ice swords in ch 44 when she's still holding back. The only thing she has the DS seal on for in chapter 45 is for the ds blade at the beginning of the chapter which is gone when she transforms again. The DS seal is just an indication of an attribute present in her weapon and it was present with her DS blade and when she was using a blade enchanted with Natsu's magic. I don't see how it's "amping" her blumenblatt.

She has the DS seal and DS sword, that's two amps, and she's in that armor for the majority of the chapter. Please give me a reason that the seal wasn't active? Cause every time we see it from her arm showing, it it. An she clearly has it as already activated as soon as she swaps armor, not to mention nothing suggests it has anything to do with the sword. They're two seperate amps. As shown when they debuted. I mean it makes a clear indication they are seperate. An we clearly see her guild mark doens't change from the sword. Its not until after Wendy enchants her. (though her learning to do it for herself that fast is impressive)
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-6.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-15-page-12.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-15-page-13.html
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-18-page-9.html



Side Note: I would lvoe to see Erza learn the deus spells to cast on herself, as an answer to DF and to make the POF arguments happen a lil less often.

 

[GL_Nova]

Mahima likely didn't even finalize the concept on Erza learning enchantments at that point. She doesn't even call it belserion in the second usage so likely it was supposed to be there the first time but it was just omitted due to the Wendy scene not happening yet. And my point was that the dragon slaying balde was gone when she transformed which is the actual weapon that had higher stats than her previous equipment. Nothing said about the dragon slaying seal suggests that it amps stats. It's an attribute enchant in the same vein as the enchant Wendy did to make team natsu able to hit the yokai. The only potential benefit I can see that would give her is doing slightly more damage to Laxus' invisible dragon scales, but that wouldn't make her attacks any more powerful when clashing with other magic. Her final attack wasn't stat amped with anything.

Naw. Every bit of this is you’re headcannon explanation for why it doesn’t destroy your argument. It’s plainly laid before us, and that’s what it is.

DS are the uncontested tanks of the verse. It is undeniably an amp for Gray to turn his magic into slayer magic. Yet somehow it’s not an amp for Erza to turn herself into a DS? This is your new argument?

Prove that my guy. We already saw the panels have her with the DS FT emblem throughout the chapter.

 

[Ronin31]

DS are the uncontested tanks of the verse. It is undeniably an amp for Gray to turn his magic into slayer magic. Yet somehow it’s not an amp for Erza to turn herself into a DS? This is your new argument?

Erza's DS is an enchantment which gives her DS attribute to fight Dragons. Erza's Fire and Cold Blades were enchantment wich gives her blade Dragon Slayer's fire and Devil Slayer's cold attribute. Erza's Meteore Blade was an enchantment which gives her blade Jellal's celestial attribute. This is the meaning of Enchantment's magic : to appose attribute to give or change specificites. Still, Magic and Strength are still Erza's. You haven't got Jellal's magic strength combine to her inside the blade nor Natsu and Grey's. Only elemental's attributes. Same way for Dragon Slayer's mark.

Gray inherited Silver's Soul and Magic with his Devil Slayer's attribute. Just like Natsu inherited Igneel's fire or Laxus' lightning. There are gifts not techniques. That's quite different from an enchant's spell.

 

[GL_Nova]

Erza's DS is an enchantment which gives her DS attribute to fight Dragons. Erza's Fire and Cold Blades were enchantment wich gives her blade Dragon Slayer's fire and Devil Slayer's cold attribute. Erza's Meteore Blade was an enchantment which gives her blade Jellal's celestial attribute. This is the meaning of Enchantment's magic : to appose attribute to give or change specificites. Still, Magic and Strength are still Erza's. You haven't got Jellal's magic strength combine to her inside the blade nor Natsu and Grey's. Only elemental's attributes. Same way for Dragon Slayer's mark.

Gray inherited Silver's Soul and Magic with his Devil Slayer's attribute. Just like Natsu inherited Igneel's fire or Laxus' lightning. There are gifts not techniques. That's quite different from an enchant's spell.

That was really an interesting argument. Are we ignoring that Erza doesn't know any of those magics? Also, are we ignoring that enchanting is simply adding an attribute on to something, but it has to come from somewhere. Erza didn't learn any of those magics? She can't cast spells of those on her own through any skill she possess, so where are the magic's she's enchanting coming from? Why is Laxus immediate reaction recognnizing that she enchanted Natsu's flames and Gray's ice to her weapons, and what do you have to counter that?

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https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-44-page-15.html

 

[Darklord#10]

Me waiting for natsu to release magic power on elfseria level

 

[GL_Nova]

DS magic does not automatically mean a certain level of stats. We've seen this through Natsu's progression of his magic. As a child his DS magic was pitiful and even in dragon force he's had trouble with non ds opponents that were stronger than him. At the end of the day, it's the strength of the magic that determines how powerful someone is not what magic they are using. Gray's devil slaying magic is an amp because he developed new techniques with it and it gives him higher resistance and effectiveness against demons, as well as demonization which augments his physical stats. Erza's enchantment just adds a DS attribute to her weapon which makes it effective against dragon scales. It doesn't increase her strength speed or durability. and she didn't use any new techniques with them (not like she did with HBM enchantment against Misaki). Even with the fire and ice swords, all she did was enchant the attributes onto her weapon and slash. She didn't use any of Natsu or Gray's techniques. And her final attack was literally just with heaven's wheel that she had since the beginning of the series..... Kinda finding it hard to see how that's "amped" compared to everything else in her arsenal. Even aside from the ds blade and the fire and ice swords, she has things like the fairy armor, true benizakura(without enchant), and nakagami which are all significantly stronger than the blumenblatt she used in the final clash.

Also to answer your question to the other guy. Maybe it's the fact that she literally says it's "the fire dragons flames meets the ice demon's chill". If Laxus couldn't recognize it as Natsu's flames and Gray's ice from that he'd be almost as intelligent as half his fans on this site.

Bullshit lol, every Slayer we have met is a monstrous tank and treated as one of the heavy hitters in thier guild. Every sinlge one. Gray's DS magic is a boost because it boosted all his stats, gave him better melee magic, and let him keep up with Natsu. An he hadn't developed anything with it, simply been granted it by his dad at that point. SO if you wanna argue that's why longterm, attempt it. We aren't going to try and recreate the slayer class to meet your new criteria. Erza added the seal to herself first, turning her into a DS. It's literally DS enchant. She applies that when she turns into the red pants and keeps it the rest of the battle. Laxus was immediately able to recognize it and respond with a boost of his own. She literally speaks about the fact it's their power in her swords. Laxus literally calls out her having their power in her swords immediately. It's no different than a Unison raid. If these were her own powers she learned to generate herself , she wouldn't have said that. She would have credited her trainig like she did with Enchant. I don't see how adding DS to her magics, and literally enchanting other people's magic into her weapons to ugprade them isn't a boost? I mean honestly its amusing people are still arguing againt this when Mashima was so careful to give her a power up that made perfect logical sense and made perfect use of what makes her dope.

An still smarter than all the Erza fans who apparently cant understand her literal statement about using thier strength, bc it's "her power"
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-44-page-15.html

 

[WoWfan]

Bullshit lol, every Slayer we have met is a monstrous tank and treated as one of the heavy hitters in thier guild. Every sinlge one. Gray's DS magic is a boost because it boosted all his stats, gave him better melee magic, and let him keep up with Natsu. An he hadn't developed anything with it, simply been granted it by his dad at that point. SO if you wanna argue that's why longterm, attempt it. We aren't going to try and recreate the slayer class to meet your new criteria. Erza added the seal to herself first, turning her into a DS. It's literally DS enchant. She applies that when she turns into the red pants and keeps it the rest of the battle. Laxus was immediately able to recognize it and respond with a boost of his own. She literally speaks about the fact it's their power in her swords. Laxus literally calls out her having their power in her swords immediately. It's no different than a Unison raid. If these were her own powers she learned to generate herself , she wouldn't have said that. She would have credited her trainig like she did with Enchant. I don't see how adding DS to her magics, and literally enchanting other people's magic into her weapons to ugprade them isn't a boost? I mean honestly its amusing people are still arguing againt this when Mashima was so careful to give her a power up that made perfect logical sense and made perfect use of what makes her dope.

An still smarter than all the Erza fans who apparently cant understand her literal statement about using thier strength, bc it's "her power"
https://www.mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-44-page-15.html

Not really as Midnight was considered stronger than Cobra, Ultear stronger than Zancrow, and there is Larcade who is stronger than GS.

 

[GL_Nova]

Not really as Midnight was considered stronger than Cobra, Ultear stronger than Zancrow, and there is Larcade who is stronger than GS.

Oh my bad, did that make Cobra not a heavy hitter? Was he a grunt of a guild? Was Zancrow treated as a grunt or common soldier? Is GS? I mean Zeref’s demons are some of the strongest monsters in the verse, by his design. So again, which one isn’t considered a heavy hitter and is just a regular grunt/soldier?

 

[WoWfan]

Oh my bad, did that make Cobra not a heavy hitter? Was he a grunt of a guild? Was Zancrow treated as a grunt or common soldier? Is GS? I mean Zeref’s demons are some of the strongest monsters in the verse, by his design. So again, which one isn’t considered a heavy hitter and is just a regular grunt/soldier?

They would be considered not The strongest individual, the demons were created to try and kill Zeref, but none of them could, they are strong but not strong enough to do that, the only one that could was Natsu as END. Let’s look at it this way for slayers, Mira is considered the more heavy hitter than Wendy during the Eclipse Gate event, while Mira who was fresh and in Sitri form hit Zirconis could not even hurt him, then there is a tired base form Wendy attack that caused him visible harm. There is also the example of Doriate who was injured by a bush with Ice Slayer essence, Gray said that if it were normal ice, it would have been crushed by him when falling, but it’s slayer ice in the same scenario it would harm him, even as a demon he instinctively didn’t brink himself to hit the ground with that slayer ice.

so in short, Slayers magic acts as a type of Kryptonite to what they target, it is anathema to them.

 

[GL_Nova]

They would be considered not The strongest individual, the demons were created to try and kill Zeref, but none of them could, they are strong but not strong enough to do that, the only one that could was Natsu as END. Let’s look at it this way for slayers, Mira is considered the more heavy hitter than Wendy during the Eclipse Gate event, while Mira who was fresh and in Sitri form hit Zirconis could not even hurt him, then there is a tired base form Wendy attack that caused him visible harm. There is also the example of Doriate who was injured by a bush with Ice Slayer essence, Gray said that if it were normal ice, it would have been crushed by him when falling, but it’s slayer ice in the same scenario it would harm him, even as a demon he instinctively didn’t brink himself to hit the ground with that slayer ice.

so in short, Slayers magic acts as a type of Kryptonite to what they target, it is anathema to them.

So, cool argument, doesn’t really have anything to do with my point though does it. I said every single Slayer is a heavy hitter. Your response doesn’t refute that. The fact you have to use Mira, Erza’s rival, to compare to Wendy goes along with my point. The gap there is obvious, and Slayer magic made her more effective. Something Erza is unquestionably aware of as she stacks 2 deprecate DS enchants to challenge Laxus. An she actively chooses to stack Gray and Natsu’s slayer elements for her enchanted attack. Both arguments end up at the same conclusion, Erza stacked magic to try and gain an advantage against Laxus and make her magic more effective. Even if you ignore the tank boost and overall effectiveness of slayer magic in general, you can’t ignore the slayer effect against target creatures.

 

[Ronin31]

DS are heavy hitters against their Nemesis : Dragons, Demons and Gods.

Against humans, they are like all wizards without any amp against unless they are eating elements : their attack potency depend on their MP level and strength.
Is Laxus a Dragon ? Where are his scales ?
I think DS potency can be effective on humans in Dragon Force as their organisms begin to turn into Dragon's way. And even it must be half effective as they are still half humans.

Even if you not agree, Dragon fire blade should damage Laxus (Dragon affinity) at least twice the Demon ice blade (Demon affinity). It's not. The damage is dealt equally with Erza's slash. She only made the slash burn and freeze at the contact with elemental enchant to add elemental damage.

Erza did the same with Misaki : The Meteor Blade was at least as strong as Fire and Cold blade and their wasn't any DS mark on it.

 

[GL_Nova]

DS are heavy hitters against their Nemesis : Dragons, Demons and Gods.

Against humans, they are like all wizards without any amp against unless they are eating elements : their attack potency depend on their MP level and strength.
Is Laxus a Dragon ? Where are his scales ?
I think DS potency can be effective on humans in Dragon Force as their organisms begin to turn into Dragon's way. And even it must be half effective as they are still half humans.

Even if you not agree, Dragon fire blade should damage Laxus (Dragon affinity) at least twice the Demon ice blade (Demon affinity). It's not. The damage is dealt equally with Erza's slash. She only made the slash burn and freeze at the contact with elemental enchant to add elemental damage.

Erza did the same with Misaki : The Meteor Blade was at least as strong as Fire and Cold blade and their wasn't any DS mark on it.

DS are heavy hitters period. Every single DS that's been introduced has been part of the elite forces of the guild their in. The only exception is our protagonist. An members of a literal guild of DS.

Laxus who uses DS magic which turns the body of the user closer to a dragon. Did you miss that explantion my guy?

That's an intersting opinion, but since literally all of ds magic does that...i'm not sure what you're getting at here. Perhaps suggesting Erza didn't know what she was doing when she only used slayer magic amps after her electric magic armor got obliterated?

Agree with what? You didn't say anything new to what i already stated, just your opinion of how the potency should work. THey're both Slayer attacks. An with the DS seal Gray's magic would have the DS element stacked on top.

She used the top spell of a former Wizard St. Jellal is one of the strongest mages in the new generation. (an made more sense from an emotional standpoint) This doesn't disprove anything bout Slayer magic.