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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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its amazing how crescent is lurking in the shadows this whle time getting a free adhd pass smfh head
It’s amazing that Lawl is lurking in the shadows this “whole” time getting a free pass



Marm where is the promised early votekill on me
cheating on me already
 

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that might be true, but your avi looks sooo specific mafiosi with the sunglasses and the jacket ^^ :teehee :3c
If any thing I'm in cosa nostra, not this shiete knock off Man Hel thing ha-ha. But you know as they say buddy, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yeah.
 

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Btw still missing some ppl for example Holt, EvilEye and Baka, hope they are fine? don't know what timezones they have.
@Baka Taichou probably doesn't know the game started yet, she did the same last game, needed to be pinged on discord to join the game.

Holt is famous for not playing until D3, he has been lynched every game day 1 for a while now and still wins, I don't expect anything more than the min 3 posts.
 

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Why weird? Vague offhand comments dont help anyone Cres.
I’m really tired at at work but you don’t feel really defensive. Like idk if I can’t describe it right now
 

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MadNat and evil are role playing? This is gonna be hard to follow :feelsbadman
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Kat not MadNat*
 

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MadNat and evil are role playing? This is gonna be hard to follow :feelsbadman
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not really me but Evil seems to roleplay... haha^^ ... don't worry, i am not that much into roleplay yet... would be to confused to stick with one role, at the end of a roleplay, my character has multiple personality disorder :3c
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woah sry quote got wrong
 

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Hey y'all, I'm the handsome Eugene from the Man Hell, if you know what I mean. Yeah buddy, I know you know what I mean. ;)

Still catching up on page 2 so far, but can already say I'm Team James. Yeah buddy, you go there!

VOTEKILL GRY

Along with Lambu they reminded me too much of myself and Shad last game, when we were not set on how to handle the mechanic and wanted cautiously feel the waters in the day discussions. And no way those two Third Party scums win an other game without being pressured to claim at some point.

James' approach here seems more than correct.

As said didn't fully catch up but the Lambs Gry-save vote on James looks also suss as well, buddy. But seems like he has been marked by Pompom already? Is that Prosecutor thingy? Well, nice, then this problem will be resolved by day end. But seems like an exciting day start.

Let's gooo Town!

As for myself, I am a passive, chances I will pass my role to someone are kinda low, yeah, if you know what I mean, buddy. ha-ha.
Hm sounds like quite a major slip of judgement dont you think?

Evil, eres malvado? ò>ó
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I have the weird feeling that both my dear hosts from last game are scum this time, I hope they prove me wrong
 

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Hm sounds like quite a major slip of judgement dont you think?

Evil, eres malvado? ò>ó
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I have the weird feeling that both my dear hosts from last game are scum this time, I hope they prove me wrong

Ha-ha I am not. I am just happy we have a confirmed townie by N1, and i don't care who of ya'll will make it but this is Detective gold! Take notes, buddies!
 

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I have the weird feeling that both my dear hosts from last game are scum this time, I hope they prove me wrong
I wish.. i wish.... :emobirb
At this point its a dream for randomizer to grant me my wish of finally being scummy


there should been a juviii avatar, she more lucky in being scum than shino, I just have a tall nose
 

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omfg what is happening already 9 pages and so many votes and someone marked lambu

what have i walked into!?!?
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need to read mechanics and posts so bb...later
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@Baka Taichou probably doesn't know the game started yet, she did the same last game, needed to be pinged on discord to join the game.

Holt is famous for not playing until D3, he has been lynched every game day 1 for a while now and still wins, I don't expect anything more than the min 3 posts.
replying to this first since i was tagged.

I checked to see if game started till 2 or sth, then god distracted with ow XD

honestly idk when the day went by.

anyway am here and will be active.
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also, I've almost missed D1 for the past 2 games already (which was when i came back from long absence, not used to being active on here anymore)
 

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I checked to see if game started till 2 or sth, then god distracted with ow XD
how have been games? hope you won^^ ... Ow can easily distract^^
 

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omfg what is happening already 9 pages and so many votes and someone marked lambu

what have i walked into!?!?
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need to read mechanics and posts so bb...later
it is mostly currently team last game mafia being petty going on gry because the way he post at the beginning from what I got

james talking about lovers interactions from last game that should been asked last game (I'm just saying those questions were meant not here, its different if it was about someone way of playing but it was interactions result)

And mechanic talk if we should hint or not
 

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I thought we were supposed to start in the evening? Oh well.
I'm not repeating the mistake from last game of letting Gry live for too long, so better to get rid of him early in case he's scum: Votekill GrySun
as much as I'm with you, kinda sus to go for him D1, at least wait to see if he gets night killed or not XD, it's what I'll be doing
 

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@Crescent Jinx Pushes for Gry lynch without voting him?
For once Im a bit uneasy about many some people jumping on Gry with so much ease, his defence is being weak tho yeah, not quite feeling it.
Crescent is indeed playing very safe, I have to agree with Lawl on that, so does Koko.

I wish.. i wish.... :emobirb
At this point its a dream for randomizer to grant me my wish of finally being scummy


there should been a juviii avatar, she more lucky in being scum than shino, I just have a tall nose
What do you mean you wish, is it really all you have to say to that accusation? :lambirb
 

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I checked to see if game started till 2 or sth, then god distracted with ow XD
Better than me wasting my day sleeping for 6 hours, the original plan was a simple nap....
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What do you mean you wish, is it really all you have to say to that accusation? :lambirb
meh, weak accusation, you were just commenting your feeling and i answer back
 

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When you are done reading it I would like to hear opinions on how to proceed (not just you but everyone) :nod

I want to see how many are in favour of hinting and how many aren't, and their thought process. Sounds like a good starting point for discussion and moving on from "hello, nice avi" loop :lambirb
well, I was about to hint in my first comment, but then i remembered last game so i held back, while I in some way agree that we should hint, on the other hand it'll be easy for mafia to target us and render our role passing obsolete. So atm, not sure, which makes me angry cuz it's lumping me with gry :(
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but if we all claim at least active/ passive for starters I think is ok.
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also one more thing to keep in mind, the person you pass to might have a better role than you, so better to hint i guess so we know who's active passive and who are good candidates for role passing
 

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for the person, who dies on N1 it will be difficult to chose a person, if he/she dies and have a role.. if we don't chose a person, the role get lost? so we rather pass to a wrong person instead of none?
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"If by chance the role of the person that is dying is correctly guessed by their killers, then the role becomes unpassable and they die with the secondary "Obvious Fool". The guessing is optional and you have to do it along with your action (sending it in a PM; openly declaring it along with a vote) - if the death is a result of a collective effort, then we will consider the role that was majoritively guessed."

Now i understand the guessing part, i kinda overread this info/mechanic
 

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how have been games? hope you won^^ ... Ow can easily distract^^
ugh played with friends lost a lot, i only win when i solo lately ;-;

it is mostly currently team last game mafia being petty going on gry because the way he post at the beginning from what I got

james talking about lovers interactions from last game that should been asked last game (I'm just saying those questions were meant not here, its different if it was about someone way of playing but it was interactions result)

And mechanic talk if we should hint or not
oh, I see, thankies for the summary asachii ♥♥♥
 
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