Games Mafia Game 107 - ACNH: The ManHel Tale - Game End

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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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No he didn't claim, he gave a shy hint, witch made me think he had an important role, I was guessing det so I didn't want to push further.
maybe he is doctor or so? someone who is similar important during night? or a spy or so
 

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Right now I’m going to votekill James

not really into lynching DD anymore today
 

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@Copy Panda if you don't explain your post today, I will start assuming the worse.

Let me write some fan fiction.

You read the mechanic, assumed pirate would make sense in this setup with role passing and wrote that post to claim it the next day.

Then changed your mind? Is GB your accomplice?
If it comes down to GB Vs you I will start by you.
 

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btw since my death is high during the night and i am still lost

!votekill Asako


with the chance to change later, bc i have some personal eyes on Brandish and Holt and some who make me feel irritating and i would have looked at night what they are^^

but maybe i am actually paranoid and useless :doge
 

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btw since my death is high during the night and i am still lost

!votekill Asako


with the chance to change later, bc i have some personal eyes on Brandish and Holt and some who make me feel irritating and i would have looked at night what they are^^

but maybe i am actually paranoid and useless :doge
Why did you claim det btw?
 

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You can eyeball me all you want but Asako has alot of votes. Trains don’t tell you anything. If people jump I can put a lock on her. DD claims mortician. And that fits with his not important role the first day. The “I’m active but was talking about my temporary role” just feels like a lie or a rich embellishment of the truth which borders on a lie on James part.. And I feel it’s good policy to lynch liars. More wish we had games like before where we tried to double lynch people and wait to last second to see if anyone sniped a vote or jumped ship or last minute save.
 

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More wish we had games like before where we tried to double lynch people and wait to last second to see if anyone sniped a vote or jumped ship or last minute save.
remember those action as i played years ago the first time, that was scary :notlikethis :emocat
 

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I mean. One of those games you were Mafia so…..
yes the first game i ever had, i was mafia...now i am just an innocent townie trying to save my ass during night :emocat :wtf
 

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You can eyeball me all you want but Asako has alot of votes. Trains don’t tell you anything. If people jump I can put a lock on her. DD claims mortician. And that fits with his not important role the first day. The “I’m active but was talking about my temporary role” just feels like a lie or a rich embellishment of the truth which borders on a lie on James part.. And I feel it’s good policy to lynch liars. More wish we had games like before where we tried to double lynch people and wait to last second to see if anyone sniped a vote or jumped ship or last minute save.
looks to me for both gb and you like a mafia trying to get rid of possible lover (who would be a burden on mafia side because their purpose is to cause discord) or any other tp for that matter early on.
 

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Because 10/16 voted; 5 are on Asako. 5 are spread out. 6 players still have to vote; no locks. A train is boring. Should try for three way. Or at least double and see what happens. Eyeballing also the people who vote randomly too.
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It make more sense to have variety too then everyone “all aboard the Asako express”
 

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Because 10/16 voted; 5 are on Asako. 5 are spread out. 6 players still have to vote; no locks. A train is boring. Should try for three way. Or at least double and see what happens. Eyeballing also the people who vote randomly too.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

It make more sense to have variety too then everyone “all aboard the Asako express”
you just jumped higher on my sus list with this comment.

First of all, what townie in his right mind wants to go a 3 way unless he's aiming for a misslynch and is not actually townie.

Secondly, precisely because 5 votes are spread out and 6 players still need to vote, gathering votes on asako is a must.
 
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