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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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I found out from hosts that role pass with Priority 0 blocks the role action of the night. That's what I was implying- But nobody claimed receive Santa.
 

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Claiming your action failed, this was after you listed your targets and after Sam said he got no result on you. You're on the backfoot already, but you're saying you want Evil to claim first. I don't even see how this logic follows @GB .
 

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I found out from hosts that role pass with Priority 0 blocks the role action of the night. That's what I was implying- But nobody claimed receive Santa.
why would they.....they stop being townie at that point.
 

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Cazzo. This game mechanic is so complicated enough and everyone is having their own agenda. 😭
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why would they.....they stop being townie at that point.

No, the rule say the alignment stays the same, we saw this as green Strongman Lambu.
 

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Every player is pulling in their own direction, there is no unity among the townies. If I got it right, sameul and brandish are spies, madnat detective who was blocked, I'm a pirate who was blocked and gb was also blocked?
You being blocked N3 is troubling.
 

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i haven't read back yet but let me guess, with lambs dead, evil won't claim right?

bakatai must've given psych to someone, I didn't get any result on targeting big h. I thought he might be tsc looking for lover as was suggested yday
 

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Nat was kind enough to give us his targets, but my understanding is gifts can be anything, can they be something the player isn't aware of?
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Yeah I just lost the right to ever complain when people say they forgot to send action.
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I don't think it is against the rules since he isn't playing against his win condition, @Kat was a town at hearth.
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@James Rye or anybody that received Psy from Sakura wait for @Copy Panda Panda to claim to reveal, @Copy Panda claim in your first post.
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Nat is convinced Panda is mafia but not James, it in the interest of TP to lynch mafia to survive and she voted Panda over James before she was exposed by Sam, I think it safe to assume the gift was something a mafia woudnt reveal.

Not gonna rush voting him since there is more info to be discussed, but right now I'm very tempted to, I'm done for today, be back in 8 hours.
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Rookie?
oh i fucked up the quote but was responding to your mention^ ill quickly read back now
 

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But everything you have to pull out of his nasty nose. I would rage lock, but I don't want repeat of D2 Asako mistake.
 

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Evil and Holt going in so hard they don't bother guessing lol
 

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And yes why is evil hiding his role, WE HAVE PIRATE DETECTIVE AND TWO SPIES OUT WTF GOING ON??
 

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But are you sure. He only says after two alledged Spies say.

I am also interested in how james is going to vote, the only basically certain mafia man.
Open, to an extent. I'm more confident in Sam now but the alternative exists where there's not two spies (or three lol).
 

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Evil and Holt going in so hard they don't bother guessing lol
Guessing what? There's so much uncertainty still, and someone must be also lying because Asako give the Doctor, so I don't feel comfortable pressuring randos. GB was sus since the very start.

How about everyone makes a list who they sus and why and who they vouch for, then we consolidate?
 

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Guessing what? There's so much uncertainty still, and someone must be also lying because Asako give the Doctor, so I don't feel comfortable pressuring randos. GB was sus since the very start.

How about everyone makes a list who they sus and why and who they vouch for, then we consolidate?
Are you tilted or is it just the italics?
 

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But in worst case if we cannot agree we lynch the Jinx witch. She failed to find love, that is her doom now.

It would be by end of this day then as followed:
6 Townies, 2 Mafias, 2 Lovers. Then they kill one townie, and next day we have 5 Townies and 4 antis still.

With so many investigative claims there will be more shit to compare?

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Are you tilted or is it just the italics?

Cazzo, I am in the Italy right now. The home of the tower pisa.


 

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My only sus was that i wasnt willing to kill a gry on day 1 and that is also a big stretch
 
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