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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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@Evil3ye what do you think of a Holt lynch? He is connected to Jinx, James and evil.

Can we really lose with 1 misslynch?
 

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@Evil3ye what do you think of a Holt lynch? He is connected to Jinx, James and evil.

Can we really lose with 1 misslynch?
I don't understand why if Holt is Mafia Lover (what James claims) that he would want to lynch the threesome 😭 makes no sense,the lovers know about the threesome in the game
 

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Evil take it easy if you are busy then don't look lock.

I don't mind letting you decide the lynch since you put a lot of effort this game and this day phase, worse case you win but well deserved.

But since there is time I also want to think.

What if they are 2 mafia lovers and 2 town lovers and 1 TC?
 

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About James, I don't think he has it. How mad Baka is right now probably cursing James using her name like that. I don't think Baka would upgrade a clear mafia that she found HERSELF! I hope she went with my suggestion to give it to scummy GB. And if he has it and they are in a team it makes some sense to me that the other could just claim it. At least I think so.
She did butt heads with you a bit so who knows where she posted it off to; no one has counter-claimed James though :hmm

The Bulletproof.

Digital can steal and confirm.
Digital robbed Nat according to him so you can't be confirmed that way but there's little reason to doubt you

He claimed active afaik. It was only me and the Gry as passives.

I tell my historia tomorrow, when digital steals my role (if he wants).

But do you agree with the lynch order? If so I want to move and lock and get the hell on with my life. Have some plans already made
He never claimed/hinted from what I remember 🤔

@Evil3ye what do you think of a Holt lynch? He is connected to Jinx, James and evil.

Can we really lose with 1 misslynch?
Holt or Jinx are up there for lynch priority imo.

I don't understand why if Holt is Mafia Lover (what James claims) that he would want to lynch the threesome 😭 makes no sense,the lovers know about the threesome in the game
Perhaps gambling on Town following through on a GB lynch after Lambu wanted him gone the day previous?
 

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I already voted GB so my change will lock. I explained why Jinx makes more sense to me, despite her being unrecruited, even though it is really super annoying to let him live an other day. :bored

If this is fine with you, then good. We should lynch Jinx.

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Digital robbed Nat according to him so you can't be confirmed that way but there's little reason to doubt you
Digital said he was blocked because he never got PM with getting the role change, i.A. becoming the Detective. He should be able to do it again if he is not blocked.

Perhaps gambling on Town following through on a GB lynch after Lambu wanted him gone the day previous?
Yeah perhaps, then overpower us with votes next day. But she should be lynched, it's too dangerous.
 

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Yeah we could delay the game by getting rid of the noble and give everybody 1 more day of actions, that doesn't sound like a bad idea considering we have 2 spies claims
 

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VOTEKILL JINX - Noble (Threesome Candidate)

! Don't forget to guess, or else the vote parity will occure anyway !
 

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Votekill Jinx - Noble (Threesome Candidate)

I may still change my vote if there are further revelations about Holt or GB but for now I'm fine with this lynch.
 

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I don't like this at all, lambu didn't claim active according to SirSam and I think he is right.

Lambu wanted evil to claim because evil hinted or didn't contradict others assuming he was bulletproof, so lambu could have been the bulletproof.

But mafia killed lambu, even tho he requested no protection and said to evil: in case we are claiming the same role.

So mafia would only kill them if they told/ trusted Gry to give lambu Strongman or if they investigated lambu, connecting evil more to the possible M.Det Holt, who is saying they checked Evil D1 and he isn't traitor.
 

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@MadNat this is the last time I will tell you, vote on the person I tell you to.
well sry, but that is kinda manipulative and suspicious... i am gonna vote what i feel for myself is right ^^
 

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I also feel like I agree with DD’s reactions to most of this phase
 

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I don't like this at all, lambu didn't claim active according to SirSam and I think he is right.

Lambu wanted evil to claim because evil hinted or didn't contradict others assuming he was bulletproof, so lambu could have been the bulletproof.

But mafia killed lambu, even tho he requested no protection and said to evil: in case we are claiming the same role.

So mafia would only kill them if they told/ trusted Gry to give lambu Strongman or if they investigated lambu, connecting evil more to the possible M.Det Holt, who is saying they checked Evil D1 and he isn't traitor.

Oh buddy. So that means you think I would kill Gry so he passes his strongman role to Lambu who is Bulletproof, instead of giving the strongman to a team Member and get rid of some Detectives or spies, so I can end up claiming the bulletproof role. That's some 5D chess indeed. Lambu had the useless strongman role since Day 2, basically a vanilla, why would he as for protection?
 

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Digital robbed Nat according to him so you can't be confirmed that way but there's little reason to doubt you
if he robbed my ability, he is now a detective pirate ^^... but what was his target though? what he was searching...
 

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well sry, but that is kinda manipulative and suspicious... i am gonna vote what i feel for myself is right ^^
They are currently 3 lovers and 3 mafia in the game, we can't split votes, you trust yourself to make the call to win the game?

I'm too tired to argue with you about being manipulative, if this is how we lose the game, may as well give the game to evil: @votekill Jinx

Tonight I'm dead, will try to confirm if Sakura passed the Psy but don't count on results.
 

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Sry but there is something odd with Shad's thought of i should vote what he tells me to...lol... i did always vote what he voted to lynch (besides Grysun)... sry but i don't trust that kinda move..aspecially if mostly it went wrong and we just once lynched a mafia by that
 

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Well I was going to tell something about my guesses but now I feel a bit petty.

bene e riposa
 

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They are currently 3 lovers and 3 mafia in the game, we can't split votes, you trust yourself to make the call to win the game?

I'm too tired to argue with you about being manipulative, if this is how we lose the game, may as well give the game to evil: @votekill Jinx

Tonight I'm dead, will try to confirm if Sakura passed the Psy but don't count on results.
If you don't trust my claim, then what Team am I supposed to be. Just wondering what mad lad you think I am to revenge kill a team mate on D1, or if you think I am a crazy Lover, who is pushing hard for a Threesome kill now. Just wondering. 🤷‍♂️
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Sry but there is something odd with Shad's thought of i should vote what he tells me to...lol... i did always vote what he voted to lynch (besides Grysun)... sry but i don't trust that kinda move..aspecially if mostly it went wrong and we just once lynched a mafia by that

It's just a very close game right now, people's nerves get to them. Don't get offended poverina ha-ha
 

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I'm too tired to argue with you about being manipulative,
the issue is i don't like being forced into doing what another person just thinks, neither in playgame nor in real life...
if i trust your words, still i do my own decision...
it leads also to not a good team playing being manipulative and say it is 'the last time if you do this xxx'
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It's just a very close game right now, people's nerves get to them. Don't get offended poverina ha-ha
tbh my nerves are fine about the game, since i am new, i feel more relax if we lose or win, therefore i might just learn by my own! experience...
i just don't like being forced into a decision...that feels not good at all...
 

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@Shad @Evil3ye I got the psy from baka. @Baka Taichou Thanks for giving me an actual role I can make use of.

I investigated Holt because I didn't trusted his 2nd psy claim with so far only me coming forth as 2nd role holder. Even Jinx being lovers or threesome makes no sense with 2 psys in-game and since nobody popped SS is unlikely to be-ingame as well. Same ofc for Mentor.
As for the result?
Holt got a 2nd role, congratulation @Holt @Crescent Jinx . May you live happily ever after.
I haven’t guessed Holt yet but I do have 1 name correct so far
 
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