Hangout Hunter x Hunter Hangout Thread [02]

[ShadowHeart]

--- Double Post Merged, May 31, 2022, Original Post Date: May 30, 2022 ---

Surprised no mentioned Hisoka toybox.

 

[ShadowHeart]

finished the 402.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2022, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2022 ---

reminds me a sun will be the Feitan?

How do you know it's a 402 chapter?

 

[Demonspeed]

How do you know it's a 402 chapter?

With the manga's return and less frequent updates it's hard to keep track of things but Togashi had at least completed the drafts of Chapter 403. He was on the 5th page of Chapter 404 or something before the return.

 

[ShadowHeart]

With the manga's return and less frequent updates it's hard to keep track of things but Togashi had at least completed the drafts of Chapter 403. He was on the 5th page of Chapter 404 or something before the return.

I can seeing it being 399 Chapter if the that's the case.

 

[Aeneas]

How do you know it's a 402 chapter?

The next tweet was: "For now, there are eight chapters left to go." (i.e., 403-410)

 

[Demonspeed]

I was going to do it myself but this tweet has everything summarized:

 

[shionoro]

I was going to do it myself but this tweet has everything summarized:

Togashi started his twitter when he had 6 chapters to go IIRC. If he has drafted roughly 4 chaps now, that would mean he would take roughly an equal time from first tweet to serialization now. If true, that would be a far more manageable pace.

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

I saw it yesterday and found it interesting because I didn't remember it anymore.

 

[Demonspeed]

Togashi started his twitter when he had 6 chapters to go IIRC. If he has drafted roughly 4 chaps now, that would mean he would take roughly an equal time from first tweet to serialization now. If true, that would be a far more manageable pace.

He had drafted 6 chapters and was on the 6th page of Chapter 397. I don't think his progress is the same ATM since he is focusing on fixing the issues of he current batch but if Chapter 400 gets completed next week he could focus on the drafts again.

 

[Erinyes]

Translation of the nen charts from the exhibition: All credits to Veracious cake

Chart1

Chart 1

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Below is my translation of the text pertaining to Chart #1
For this exhibition, we have compiled revealing information on Nen based on memos we have borrowed from Yoshihiro Togashi himself. Some of the information has never been revealed before, and should allow you to better understand the story's setting.

About the 6 'Nen Types'

• There are six Types of Nen: Enhancement, Transmutation, Emission, Manipulation, Conjuration, and Specialization. The innate Type that a Nen user is born with does not change. However, there have been extremely rare cases wherein [a Nen user] changes to Specialization as an acquired/postnatal Type.

About Nen users placed right 'in between' two Types

• Everyone is born with one fixed Nen type. However, there exist Nen users who, in terms of talent, are placed right in between [their innate Type] and another Type. These users can efficiently learn/pick up both Types of Nen.
• By honing their skills exclusively on their original Type over a long period of time, one can relatively easily develop more aptitude toward their innate Type.
• One's placement within the scope of the Type they belong to may change depending on their training method/intensity, living environment, changes to their mind/body, and other factors.

(The chart depicts Nen Types as a hexagonal spectrum, along with each character's placement on said spectrum. In the parentheses after a character's name is their innate Type. Below are the listed characters, starting from the top (Enhancement) and going clockwise in order.)

• Gon (Enhancement) -> Nen lost
• Netero (Enhancement)
• Uvogin (Enhancement)
• Komugi (Enhancement)
• Palm (Enhancement)
• Nobunaga (Enhancement)
• Killua (Transmutation)
• Machi (Transmutation)
• Hisoka (Transmutation)
• Biscuit (Transmutation)
• Menthuthuyoupi (Transmutation)
• Hanzo (Transmutation)
• Kite (Conjuration) -> Nen lost
• Tsubone (Conjuration)
• Shizuku (Conjuration)
• Genthru (Conjuration)
• Kortopi (Conjuration)
• Knuckle (Conjuration)
• Abengane (Conjuration)
• Kurapika (Conjuration)
• Chrollo (Specialization)
• Pakunoda (Specialization)
• Neon (Specialization)
• Neferpitou (Specialization)
• Alluka (Specialization)
• Milluki (Manipulation)
• Illumi (Manipulation)
• Morel (Manipulation)
• Shaiapouf (Manipulation)
• Ponzu (Manipulation)
• Shalnark (Manipulation)
• Kalluto (Manipulation)
• Melody (Emission)
• Pokkle (Emission)
• Zeno (Emission)
• Silva (Emission)
• Knov (Emission)
• Razor (Emission)
• Meruem (Emission)
• Leorio (Emission)
• Franklin (Emission)
• Gotoh (Enhancement)
• Ikalgo (Enhancement)

Chart 2

Chart #2

Below is my translation of the text pertaining to Chart #2

About the 4 ratings of Nen proficiency and the 'Attribute Circles'

(Pay attention to the illustration at the bottom right of the page. You can see circles with 4 gradients, starting from the innermost black layer to the outermost white layer. This is important for understanding the following text.)

• In Nen, there are 4 ratings of proficiency for each Type: Great, Excellent, Genius, and Ultimate. The illustration depicting these ratings is called the 'Attribute Circles'; the closer the rating is to the center of the circle, the higher one's Nen proficiency is.
• These ratings represent the overall proficiency 'at this point in time', factoring in one's innate learning speed, physical abilities, mental fortitude, etc. They do not represent the relative strength of one's Nen.
• A Nen user who currently rate as 'Genius' can quickly fall to the 'Excellent' or 'Great' ranks due to a lack of training, etc.
• The 'Ultimate' rating means that the Nen user has reached the apex of attainable technique. It does not represent one's innate talent.
• A Nen user that places within a Type's 'Attribute Circle' possesses the potential to reach that Type's true essence, the 'Ultimate' rating. An example: Gon, who was forced into an extreme state of mind, reached 'Ultimate' in an instant. However, he lost his very power due to his Nen vows.
• Whether a Nen user reaches 'Ultimate' largely depends on their own efforts, but also on other factors such as luck and circumstances.
• For Nen users who are placed right in between 2 Types, oftentimes, reaching 'Ultimate' is conditional upon continuous training/practice of both Types for a certain period of time.
• There are also cases where Nen users placed between 2 Types get into the 'Attribute Circle' of their innate Type by honing that Type exclusively over a very long time.
• Unlike users of other Types, Specialists sometimes do not display any progress in their Nen despite being placed in the 'Attribute Circle'. Sometimes, their awakening to 'Ultimate' level is contingent upon training/practice of the Type of Nen that the Specialsts are supposed to have a hard time with in terms of the hexagonal chart. Specialists have various complications that cannot be decided with a catch-all rule.

(The chart depicts only characters that make it into the 'Attribute Circles', with their proficiency rating in parentheses. Below are the listed characters, starting from the top (Enhancement) and going clockwise in order.)

Enhancers:

• Netero (Ultimate)
• Uvogin (Genius)
• Komugi (Genius)
• Gon (Great) -> (Ultimate) -> (Nen lost)

Transmuters:

• Biscuit (Ultimate)
• Hisoka (Genius)
• Menthuthuyoupi (Genius)

Conjurers:

• Abengane (Ultimate)
• Genthru (Genius)
• Kortopi (Genius)
• Knuckle (Excellent)
• Shizuku (Great)

Specialists:

• Alluka (Ultimate)
• Chrollo (Genius)
• Neferpitou (Genius)
• Neon (Excellent)
• Pakunoda (Great)

Manipulators:

• Illumi (Genius)
• Shaiapouf (Genius)
• Morel (Great)

Emitters:

• Meruem (Ultimate)
• Zeno (Ultimate)
• Silva (Genius)
• Knov (Excellent)
• Razor (Great)

Translator's conclusion :

Below are my personal emphases and conclusions:​

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The basic principles we've known since the introduction of Nen hasn't changed. Each person has one innate Type they have an affinity to, they will have a harder time comparatively when trying to pick up other Types, and Specialists are fringe cases that cannot be easily explained. Some characters are 'ambidextrous' in that even though they are born with one Type, they happen to pick up another adjacent Type just as easily.​

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Just because someone isn't in the 'Attribute Circle' in Chart 2 doesn't mean that their Nen is weak, or that they are not proficient. It's just that they are not focused enough to belong to the 'Attribute Circle'. If you haven't noticed, Chart 2 only includes characters that are shown in Chart 1 to have singular Type focus.​

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Gon was, I believe, a case of someone who developed aptitude for their innate Type because he had honed his Enhancement Nen almost exclusively over an extended time. This is why, I believe, that his placement has shifted since Greed Island. Remember that one's placement in Chart 2 is fluid and only represents their proficiency 'at this point in time'.​

 

[Copy Panda]

is this accurate? knuckle is a conjurer, not an emitter?

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 17, 2022, Original Post Date: Nov 17, 2022 ---

meruem is naturally an emitter

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 17, 2022 ---

Hm so 'ultimate' here means that the techniques potential has been fully tapped into?

 

[Demonspeed]

is this accurate? knuckle is a conjurer, not an emitter?

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 17, 2022, Original Post Date: Nov 17, 2022 ---

meruem is naturally an emitter

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 17, 2022 ---

Hm so 'ultimate' here means that the techniques potential has been fully tapped into?

It's from Togashi himself. You can see his notes and drawings on the right.

 

[Copy Panda]

I guess the ability gaining aspect of Mereum is a biological thing then, not a nen ability

Does that mean Jikandes.exe is visible to regular people?

Interesting Shizuku is listed as "great"; I assume that means she could develop her ability further? Add different aspects or so?

 

[Demonspeed]

By the way, I recommend anyone who understands French to watch Magickirua's video on the topic. It's explained very well and he even mentions certain things which haven't been confirmed yet by the translator but which make a lot of sense and are probably true IMO.

I guess the ability gaining aspect of Mereum is a biological thing then, not a nen ability

Does that mean Jikandes.exe is visible to regular people?

Interesting Shizuku is listed as "great"; I assume that means she could develop her ability further? Add different aspects or so?

I talked a bit about what I think of that Meruem's reveal here.

Still haven't reread everything but I don't believe Potclean is visible to regular people. However Kurapika said conjured items can become invisible to normal people with some conditions.

Yes for Shizuku. I think a great example of Hatsu evolving is Chrollo who has developed Double Face and is at Genius level.

 

[Kiki]

Come join MangaHelpers' World Cup 2022 Pick 'em challenge before Sunday (11/20) and discuss the matches!

 

[Kanmuru]

Just started a new drawing

 

[lulukaruins]

@Kanmuru I bet you learn a lot from Togashi-sensei paneling


Remind me, is this from 396?. Coffin?

 

[Demonspeed]

@Kanmuru I bet you learn a lot from Togashi-sensei paneling


Remind me, is this from 396?. Coffin?

I think the very first pic he posted on his account was from Chapter 397 since he posted "Four chapters left" or something. Should be from Chapter 397.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 22, 2022, Original Post Date: Nov 22, 2022 ---

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

 

[Demonspeed]

Review of the Togashi Exhibition.

Togashi's comments during YYH's serialization.