Games Mafia Game 108 - Mob Psycho 100 (75%)

[Crescent Jinx]

This is on discord but will put here too.

 

[Raven]

Grysun you still have my vote btw. Just pick who you want for today.

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if you want to swap from shjima

 

[Holt]

That's not an excuse imo, our game is very particular, and our quite different sent of rules and details is lengthy.

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Rly? You feel like that after the several repeated posts I've made on his posts, without even addressing that specifically?

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You won't buy recruits but buy Wojaks claim of a 5 members team in a game that possibly had only 1 scum kill per night with 19 players and a town with several killing options?

It wasn’t an excuse, I was simply responding to you.

For Shijima, as far as I recall, he played quite similarly as town. Looked very sussy, ended up not. That is not an argument for or against him by the way, I’m simply saying his flip based on that could quite literally go either way.

As for not buying recruits, in context, I said that I don’t think Jinx would put that, especially after the past few games, if only so that this game wouldn’t feel too similar to others. And with recruiting, I mean that with respect to Mafia specifically. I’m pretty sure we can assume there are multiple killing parties, and depending on setup, there might not necessarily be recruit. Heck the last time I co-hosted with Jinx we had 3 Mafia teams. Again, this is not ruling out, I just find it unlikely. I don’t think Jinx would consider using similar routes with the more recent games.

 

[wojak]

@wojak can you please pass the disease to marma tonight?

Will do.
also is there any list of who claimed what role?

 

[GrySun]

Like this?

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I insist on GrySun. However feel free to vote for me as I have become a suspect.

Just tell us your role, it's really no grave sin or anything no matter what you are. Avoiding a mislynch is better than any role being out in the open. It's a game of lies but also a game of trust, extend a hand.

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You’re too eager to confront. I said you can’t assume Evil and others would or wouldn’t have reacted in a different manner IF you had claimed. That’s what I mean by x or y, because you’re saying you didn’t claim because it wouldn’t matter.

Secondly, I didn’t say you got into that position because you didn’t claim. I’m saying you didn’t claim despite being in that position, even when you were asked. You say what makes me think claiming would’ve changed anything, I say what makes you think it wouldn’t have ? Because it’s rather normal for someone on the ropes to claim, and if they don’t, they pretty much accept what will be, because it’s as good as saying you won’t cooperate even at the risk of lynch.

And you considered yourself to be worth blocking by yesterday? There were more people to mess with, since you were already in a tight spot, which is my point.

You’re grossly simplifying my point, which was that you would rather go for an easy lynch than claim when you were on the spot. And the afk bit is just pure nonsense because he didn’t show up at any point and was already going to get subbed. That’s a very separate case from selectively playing and be intentionally afk.

A role you like is extremely vague, and also very subjective. How is your hint in any better position? It’s even worse in hindsight with your reveal that you would even expect him to have gone for you. Especially when you were already being suspected for your potato reveal on D1.

And yes, of course it’s extremely bad and poor play. Like you kept hammering on Evil while he went at you

It's not eager, I just fail to see how you can construct viewpoints like those as town. It looks highly reminiscent of the Holt in a past game, the one where Lambu won as Lovers. You were mafia and we had an argument and it felt the same way I felt reading your previous post. Back then you also sneakily misinterpreted some things enough to be able to argue and suspect while reflecting and ignoring what was inconvenient of you. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my Holt mafia detectors just flared up so I got a bit overexcited.

Will respond to the rest in a bit.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Votekill Shijima.

For the record, I do this because Grysun made me reread something i misunderstood so thats his present.

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Will lock at the end of day phase.

What did you misunderstand


Sorry been absent

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Will do.
also is there any list of who claimed what role?

Wait don.t pass it to her today, pass it to someone else to protect them

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Well 13 hrs left, will check back tomorrow, I.m ok with shijima, but if he flips town my eyes are on farf and gry once more.

 

[GrySun]

Well 13 hrs left, will check back tomorrow, I.m ok with shijima, but if he flips town my eyes are on farf and gry once more.

He will never claim his role, how do you expect to go into lategame with him.

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Idk what the stubbornness is about really.

 

[Raven]

What did you misunderstand

Nothing serious, I was very sad cuz i thought Erinyes said she don't respect me, he told that i read wrong and i checked and he was right, plus James post was kinda a relief about him.

I decided to help him for today.

 

[digitaldude]

Considering going for someone that hasn't hinted yet at this point, but want to think this over more. Shijima maybe, huge part of that is that I feel like this situation is taking a lot of focus right now

@Brandish μ - As you don't want to hint it seems, how would you describe your role? Does it fit your spicy and fiery character? On a scale from 0 - 10 how hot do you think it is? Do you like your role?

@digitaldude You claimed apprentice right? Did you try to learn again from someone last night? Care to share the person you've targeted? Missed it if you already said it

ill reveal after I learn it tonight.

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vote kill grysun there just cant be a game with vengeful bomb and banshee, was it to end it as fast as possible?

 

[GrySun]

You’re too eager to confront. I said you can’t assume Evil and others would or wouldn’t have reacted in a different manner IF you had claimed. That’s what I mean by x or y, because you’re saying you didn’t claim because it wouldn’t matter.

Secondly, I didn’t say you got into that position because you didn’t claim. I’m saying you didn’t claim despite being in that position, even when you were asked. You say what makes me think claiming would’ve changed anything, I say what makes you think it wouldn’t have ? Because it’s rather normal for someone on the ropes to claim, and if they don’t, they pretty much accept what will be, because it’s as good as saying you won’t cooperate even at the risk of lynch.

And you considered yourself to be worth blocking by yesterday? There were more people to mess with, since you were already in a tight spot, which is my point.

You’re grossly simplifying my point, which was that you would rather go for an easy lynch than claim when you were on the spot. And the afk bit is just pure nonsense because he didn’t show up at any point and was already going to get subbed. That’s a very separate case from selectively playing and be intentionally afk.

A role you like is extremely vague, and also very subjective. How is your hint in any better position? It’s even worse in hindsight with your reveal that you would even expect him to have gone for you. Especially when you were already being suspected for your potato reveal on D1.

And yes, of course it’s extremely bad and poor play. Like you kept hammering on Evil while he went at you

I talked and argued with Evil and to some extent Baka all game. Lack of role claim was far from what made them be on me since D1. You'll just have to trust me on this one, that my assessment of it not helping was correct. You can always ask Evil postgame, but a very irrelevant point right now.
Instead tell me why this matters so much to you. Why would I as mafia not claim a role there? Since you're seeing this as suspicious behavior.
I just claimed Innocent Child D1 last game as mafia to try and survive, I'd definitely claim as mafia to survive. Being able to shoot back in worst case where I'm lynched is what gives me my confidence.

There actually were no good people to block until Kato died as Spy marking Baka as priority block. Nobody claimed or hinted much beyond active role, I hinted more than just that. If anything my stubbornness not to claim could be seen by mafia as a good role needing a bit more time. Who was better to mess with according to you? Me being lynchable next day doesn't mean I can't be having a role worth blocking.

So what was a non-easy lynch to you? What should I have done? I made a full player analysis and did a shoutout of 5 I believed to be mafia at the time, and was wanting people to vote and lynch those, arguing with who wanted to argue. You make it sound like all I did was sit and wait til the end to lock Kato, which is another thing you're misinterpreting. No, I argued what I could, tried to have a Shijima lynch instead of Baka, yet none of it was working. I disagree that a role claim there, of Banshee no less, would've changed anything or allowed for a lynch that wasn't me or Kato. Baka was close, and in hindsight possibly a bigger mistake.

Evil I won't comment about, he was tunneling on irrelevant matters and ignoring everything else.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Nothing serious, I was very sad cuz i thought Erinyes said she don't respect me, he told that i read wrong and i checked and he was right, plus James post was kinda a relief about him.

I decided to help him for today.

Ah lol xD oki thought I missed sth important about someone's role or sth ♡ glad you got it cleared then

He will never claim his role, how do you expect to go into lategame with him.

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Idk what the stubbornness is about really.

True, in a way, but then again remember Asako.

 

[GrySun]

Grysun you still have my vote btw. Just pick who you want for today.

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if you want to swap from shjima

It's ok Raven. I just wanted to clear up your misunderstanding, it's not MG related and I don't want any gifts or special treatment for outside-game stuff. If you genuinely believe I am mafia, do vote me. I assure you I am town, but if what I say doesn't convince you then stay true to your own thoughts.

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ill reveal after I learn it tonight.

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vote kill grysun there just cant be a game with vengeful bomb and banshee, was it to end it as fast as possible?

Why, Vengeful must be lynched so kill is not expected or assured to happen, and I'm the equivalent of the usual Vigilante/Prosecutor we get in most games, a rather guaranteed kill albeit slow since I must tag my way through people.

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True, in a way, but then again remember Asako.

Asako said she did it so that she gets to pass the role to someone, it was mechanic-specific. Here there's really no point. I wish he was easier to play with, or assured he would claim day x or something, but this doesn't help even if he's town. I can't seem to get through to him which irritates me.

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Like, I could give him another day while we lynch someone else, but he's not showing any indications of him needing more time or anything.

 

[wojak]

I will have to go to work. Likely will return just before day ends. Anyway since I cannot vote it wouldn’t matter anyway.

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

Well 13 hrs left, will check back tomorrow, I.m ok with shijima, but if he flips town my eyes are on farf and gry once more.

thank you for your trust.

 

[GrySun]

Brandish any thoughts so far you‘d like to share.

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thank you for your trust.

I really don‘t want to make a mistake in lynching you if you‘re town, so throw me a bone please.

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I should‘ve just let Lambu deal with this while I ride with Brandish into the sunset. Regrets.

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2 Apprentices that could‘ve both had Banshee by now, such a shame.

 

[Farfalla]

What did you misunderstand


Sorry been absent

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Wait don.t pass it to her today, pass it to someone else to protect them

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Well 13 hrs left, will check back tomorrow, I.m ok with shijima, but if he flips town my eyes are on farf and gry once more.

Sure, feel free if you think me as a scum would so frantically go onto someone on D3 after 5 townies alrdy died. I rather take the steam next if I'm wrong (which I legit doubt considering his responses to those points) than see some people using those kinds of antics to maybe prevent a lynch on him.

 

[Brandish μ]

So I have found something strange about this. It seemed like Gry-who could have been claiming Vengeful and then changed to Banshee after Farfalla-who said she is Vengeful. Brandish-who even implied of Gry-who being vengeful and Gry-who didn't correct him on that which is not my main concern. Vengeful and Banshee in one game? This set up is weird. Two apprentices, two spies, two roles that can kill someone after they are dead? Doesn't sit right with me. So Gry-who I don't think you are a citizen of Whoville atm

These are decent thoughts tbh even if I have no relation to any of those, Gry stepped to me with a kill threat if lynched so I'm left to (wrongfully) assume VT. They could all be actors but I've been playing consistently all game

@GB @Kat @ShijimaTheSilentMan @Brandish μ @Raven @Erinyes claim onegai

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He claimed Banshee

@Raven @Kat @GrySun @Farfalla @Holt @Brandish μ @GB @digitaldude @ShijimaTheSilentMan @wojak @Erinyes
who would you vote for lynch today? and why?

@Brandish μ what are your thoughts?

Considering going for someone that hasn't hinted yet at this point, but want to think this over more. Shijima maybe, huge part of that is that I feel like this situation is taking a lot of focus right now

@Brandish μ - As you don't want to hint it seems, how would you describe your role? Does it fit your spicy and fiery character? On a scale from 0 - 10 how hot do you think it is? Do you like your role?

@digitaldude You claimed apprentice right? Did you try to learn again from someone last night? Care to share the person you've targeted? Missed it if you already said it

Tbh I am 5050 about claiming but the thread is calling for it so maybe I do later.

I'd support the lynch of Shij but the guy is entertaining and makes so many innocent comments.

dd and Holt are defs on my list, the Apprentice duo is a good tunnel. Kat for sure highly lynchable. GB gives me better whiffs today but cautious.

Trust Erin, Marm, then Farf, Baka and Raven.

Brandish was kinda calm about me saying I‘d kill him, but I‘m still unsure whether that‘s more a town or mafia Brandish reaction. Either way I‘m killing him if I get lynched, if not I‘m cursing other people from that batch of 6.

I'd be the same regardless. Town is whatever, mafia can't be fretting when they are killers.

It's Banshee that kills the buzz. Now it's the better play to let mafia use a bullet rather than town use a lynch. If you keep living you lying.

 

[GrySun]

Kat for sure highly lynchable

Did you see that one Kat quote that makes it look like she had her Spy result on D2? Kinda made me hesitant on Kat.

 

[Farfalla]

Like, I could give him another day while we lynch someone else, but he's not showing any indications of him needing more time or anything.

Wait, so you went back on the slip part and would be fine with that? Why?

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

Sorry Farf-who I didn't see it before, I thought I was missing some context but I filtered the posts now and I see what you meant. In case somebody else needs to see it, here:





That does indeed look like it could be a slip-up. Pretending to know less than they actually know. That's a good catch, I would have missed it.

So once again @ShijimaTheSilentMan it is really time to say something for your case. Most of us revealed, so don't be shy and give us something to work with. I already asked you a question today and you ignored me, so just speak please.

You already drew your conclusions by believing in farfalla so I have nothing to say and I already explained it in a comment. As for me claiming some role, I won't do that as it would sound like desperation on my part.
Perhaps my death turns on your alert to whom to look.

 

[Farfalla]

I leave for 1h and see 3 people possibly preparing to excuse them from the lynch... You guys will completely shift it and then you better either lynch me or kill me at night indeed cause I'll harrass non stop the ones that talked about a slip or couldn't argue back and agreed to then evade those words... Specially the first case, the summit of inconsistency...

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I need wine lol

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As for me claiming some role, I won't do that

If you'd take an advice, keep saying that, can be key for people to keep excusing wtv you do while mates would be fed with what they need to link you to past mislynches...