Games Mafia Game 108 - Mob Psycho 100 (75%)

[Crescent Jinx]

This is on discord but will put here too.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Evil gave it to Farf N1? Farf gave it to Wojak N2?? Wojak passed it to you N3. It wasn't Evil that gave Wojak

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Apprentice fails if his target was blocked? how?

I'm not saying evil gave it to wojak, holtie.

So evil dying on N2, when PGO is still in farf's hands, how exactly would he die to PGO?

 

[wojak]

I don't know what makes people think claiming blocked is a good idea today. If anyone was blocked high chance that person would be a mafia...because with no deaths, it strongly indicates mafia got blocked.

 

[Farfalla]

because of psychiatrist? you mean they thought he was spy from his hints?

Not necessarily, but because he died with a confirmed townie role that always gets back an input. So he can confidently say he was blocked.

Yes I did, which is why I theorized yesterday that Evil might've died trying to protect Wojak. Otherwise, I'd be dead myself.

Uhh, targeting the PGO and not dying ain't the issue rly. I waited for his response to say that with what Gry pointed out in James' post + Erin's reveal, James prolly wasted the PGO bullet while Evil indeed didn't target him with an insane doctor (and protected Baka instead). But the issue is: that's something we put together basically now, with the final piece from Erin. So imo the issue is: why would someone ASSUME Evil died this way and RISK getting killed if he's wrong? And that's coming from someone that played safe and didn't want to target in N1, but went all in on an unknown role in N3? I don't believe in that.

Farfalla hid behind marmalade? Would that not mean marmalade would be targeted instead?

It means that if people tried to kill me, that would only have worked if Marm was in their team or was the killer herself. If they've managed to kill Marm I'd also have died with her.

 

[Erinyes]

Okay this is interesting. About to go to work so won’t be here for some hours, but I suggest we go back and look at the night Evil died and keep the priorities of passing and doctoring etc in mind. Like does this fit, if Evil hypothetically doctored Wojak?
Priority of passing was 4 right?

Noooo evil protected farf n1 and Baka n2, those are my Sm results

 

[Baka Taichou]

you forget there's also a mafia blocker wojak, I got blocked for sure 2 days in a row N2 N3

 

[Farfalla]

Apprentice fails if his target was blocked? how?

That's even in the very core rule you should have in your PM.

 

[Holt]

Okay this is interesting. About to go to work so won’t be here for some hours, but I suggest we go back and look at the night Evil died and keep the priorities of passing and doctoring etc in mind. Like does this fit, if Evil hypothetically doctored Wojak?
Priority of passing was 4 right?

No, I'm saying I didn't at the time consider the priority of passing. I just assumed passing happened first, not last. I'm only explaining the reasons for my own actions, and not what could've actually happened. It doesn't fit with last prio, however, I'm not dead so someone else did take the PGO bullet. And if passing happens last, then that means the PGO was gone before it got to Wojak.

 

[Farfalla]

No, I'm saying I didn't at the time consider the priority of passing. I just assumed passing happened first, not last. I'm only explaining the reasons for my own actions, and not what could've actually happened. It doesn't fit with last prio, however, I'm not dead so someone else did take the PGO bullet. And if passing happens last, then that means the PGO was gone before it got to Wojak.

I rly don't think people, specially someone like you, would proceed with actions without double checking stuff when there's a LIFE cost involved in it...


Marm, before I get stuck again:

Player	Hint	Claim	Role	Coments
James	Niche rarely used role, Defuser		Defuser	Possibly died to PGO, N2: targeted me
Gry	Active role he likes	Banshee		Potato D1, market Baka, Evil, Holt
Me	Not often used, not first time		Vengeful/Sec Hider	Potato and Curse D2; N3: hid on Marm
Evil	Old school		Doctor	Curse D1, possibly targeted me in N1, Baka in N2
Baka	Active, don't expect much	Necromancer		Spy on Gry in N2, Det on Gry in N3, claims blocks
Erin	Alrdy got it, basically just her	Sec. Investigator		Inv. on Demon (M Doctor) in N2, SM on Evil in N2 (protected me in N1, Baka in N2)
Demon	Active		???
Marm	Passive and fit	Healthy
DD	Active, unimportant	Apprentice		N1: Demin; N2 e N3: Erin > claims to learn SM
Kat	Active, got a result in N1	Spy		Claimed DD had a dif. target in N1, GB no target in N2
Raven	New, never had it before, connected to another one she had			Townie, mason, noble, bomb (gotta doube check)
Sam	Active, protagonist material		Pyschiatrist	Claimed to be blocked in N1
Holt	Timeskip	Apprentice		N1: no target; N2 e N3: Wojak
Bran	Refusal			Active, said he'd target me to test the PGO, claims he confirmed Marm as Healthy
Pandu	Active he doesn't like		Bodyguard
Shiji	-		Detective
Wojak	-	Sec Naive Traitor		Claims fake results to bait Sakura, mafia list had 5 names, acted all night with no blocks
GB	Refusal			Not a detective, claims he requires a certain scenario
Kato	-		Spy

 

[wojak]

you forget there's also a mafia blocker wojak, I got blocked for sure 2 days in a row N2 N3

Sure I trust you. Worry not. But 3 claiming being blocked.

 

[Holt]

@GrySun @Farfalla

It is, and admittedly I didn't read the full role description, because I've never known teacher being blocked affects apprentice. IF that feels enough of a slip-up with all the other things, fine. I wouldn't exactly complain, since I've made a lot of odd mistakes, I'd be on me too if it wasn't. However, I think that speaks more for me not paying attention to the game, than for me being so sloppy I'm making a mistake at every turn. Again, if y'all will lynch me for that, I have no complains.

 

[GrySun]

What is the situation of town right now, you think? Is it really bad? Or hanging in the balance?


I was not blocked in any of the nights. I know that for sure. Holt claimed he got blocked on both nights.



Farfalla hid behind marmalade? Would that not mean marmalade would be targeted instead?

Between really bad and balance, so I‘d say, bad?

Holt only needs to be blocked on 1 night to fail with his role claim, but yeah.

It means Marmalade was not killed, and she wasnt, so Farf also lived. She tied their 2 fates together.

 

[wojak]

Pondering for a while....but gonna do a big reveal soon. Allow me some time to word it properly.

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Noooo evil protected farf n1 and Baka n2, those are my Sm results

what is the sm role? it is short form of what?

 

[digitaldude]

Even if you succeed learning once the hosts would inform you as apprentice. So its strange holt never got anything....

 

[Baka Taichou]

No, I'm saying I didn't at the time consider the priority of passing. I just assumed passing happened first, not last. I'm only explaining the reasons for my own actions, and not what could've actually happened. It doesn't fit with last prio, however, I'm not dead so someone else did take the PGO bullet. And if passing happens last, then that means the PGO was gone before it got to Wojak.

you say passing is last and then that it's gone before you got to wojak? so passing prio 4 would mean apprentice prio 5 XD, I assume you're saying it was passed the night before, so N2, when it was still on Farf, so someone targeted farf N2 knowing full well that she has the PGO? Only plausible one is Sam, since Erin says evil protected me N2, why would sam target the PGO? Since Farf made it clear that she has it and she'll pass to wojak.

So only way PGO is used is if N2 it was consumed by Sam cuz he completely ignored the above mentioned, which I doubt. Considering no one died N3 means no one targeted wojak.

Ergo, you're lying.

 

[digitaldude]

Pondering for a while....but gonna do a big reveal soon. Allow me some time to word it properly.

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what is the sm role? it is short form of what?

sadomasochist role.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Sure I trust you. Worry not. But 3 claiming being blocked.

yep holt probably

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Pondering for a while....but gonna do a big reveal soon. Allow me some time to word it properly.

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what is the sm role? it is short form of what?

spirit medium

 

[wojak]

spirit medium

lol...the way you guys call it sm, does make it sound like sadomasochism

 

[Holt]

Even if you succeed learning once the hosts would inform you as apprentice. So its strange holt never got anything....

I said I learned from Wojak N2...

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you say passing is last and then that it's gone before you got to wojak? so passing prio 4 would mean apprentice prio 5 XD, I assume you're saying it was passed the night before, so N2, when it was still on Farf, so someone targeted farf N2 knowing full well that she has the PGO? Only plausible one is Sam, since Erin says evil protected me N2, why would sam target the PGO? Since Farf made it clear that she has it and she'll pass to wojak.

So only way PGO is used is if N2 it was consumed by Sam cuz he completely ignored the above mentioned, which I doubt. Considering no one died N3 means no one targeted wojak.

Ergo, you're lying.

Are you reading at all on just tunneling because I didn't properly consider things? I literally said I assumed passing was first (which it isn't). That is only the reasoning I took for my actions, and I'm not saying that is actually how things happened. However I am saying PGO was spent before Wojak, because I targeted him and didn't die.

 

[wojak]

So, I guess it is a good time to make a big reveal and make myself a mafia target in the process.

But hey, that's going to clear up some confusion.

So, I am the town prostitute.

Night 1, I targeted and blocked Sam. He did claim getting blocked and this is how I know I was able to use my role. He was a town

Night 2, I targeted Baka. And she also said she was blocked. And I confirm this. Therefore I am pretty sure she is a town. So I passed her the pgo.

Night 3, I targeted Holt. And he also claimed he was blocked. I still think he is a mafia because there was no kill and I like to think that I blocked a mafia from killing. But if he managed to learn from me in night2 then he might learn my role if given another night. That being said, with the information we have I don't think we can trust him. Sure he was blocked...but if he was the janitor then it is him being blocked that stopped a kill. And being the killer himself, he would certainly know that he was blocked. So, it is kind of easy for him to claim that.


With this I have basically said every info I had. And after this I don't think I will last long. If anyone has any question about my revelation, I would happily answer them.

 

[GrySun]

Farf thoughts on Shijima‘s slip now?

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Potato D1, market Baka, Evil, Holt

Brand not Baka