Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Garmadooon]

@Sevently As you said: he rectonned her to be Human Acno tier. He spends his time changing Selene's character each time she appears. So that confirms that she's written as garbage on the same level as Zeref.

 

[Ronin31]

Mashima retconned it because he remembered that Human Selene has to be Human Acno tier.

Just like Mashima retconned Laxus' lacrima because without it, he couldn't rival and beat Kirin. The Lacrima nerfed his magic ? Seriously ?
It has been stated in Fantasia Arc that it was given by his father to enhance his Magic Power (Dragon Slayer's ability) because he was too weak without it when he was younger.

I like Power Up but not when it reconned a character's identity (removing his Magic Source), especially when this character was chapters ago stated to have improved by great mergin in all stats (Erza's statement : "how much stronger have you become, Laxus ?"

Mashima could choose another way for Laxus' victory. For me, this is a poor writting. It's just like saying "Devil Slayer's Magic nerfed Grey's Ice Make. So, Grey has to remove it to double his MP. It's not even laughable.

 

[Ratrace]

The Lacrima nerfed his magic ? Seriously ?
It has been stated in Fantasia Arc that it was given by his father to enhance his Magic Power (Dragon Slayer's ability) because he was too weak without it when he was younger.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hiro forgot about it or just doesn’t care

 

[Ronin31]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Hiro forgot about it or just doesn’t care

Well, it's quite important. We are speeking about removing an original character here. How still can be a dragon slayer without it ?

 

[FireIce]

Dogra was nerfed and still destroyed Suzaku, and we know that his full power version is still weaker than Selene. How Selene who is 2 tier above Dogra has less durability? She herself said she could take him down if she wasn't injured.

Suzaku shit in his pants in front of human Ignia who was equal to human Selene as it was shown in the manga.
Just admit it, Suzaku is not stronger than human Selene, Selene lied or Mashima retconned it because he remembered that Human Selene has to be Human Acno tier.

Bruh, Selene being 2 tiers above Dogramag is nothing but your headcanon.

So she wasn't considering her dragon form when she said she could take him down?

Suzaku shat his pants at Ignia but didn't shat his pants at Selene even when she flexed her magic power. It was never shown that Ignia and Selene were equals in human form.

 

[Ratrace]

Well, it's quite important. We are speeking about removing an original character here. How still can be a dragon slayer without it ?

I don’t know, Hiro would probably make something up

 

[Sevently]

How would you guys rank the strongest characters in the 100 years quest currently?

I've ranked everyone at their peak

Spoiler: Power Levels

 

[MyaHeart35]

I've ranked everyone at their peak

Spoiler: Power Levels

Erza and Lucy?

 

[Darklord#10]

Yes exactly I don’t like when people says Ingia wrecked Selene. And he is a whole other tier from the other dragon gods. When in fact Selene had the upper hand majority of the fight before the attack she easily countered beat her. Selene also said she went serious “to an extent”. Selene was also destroying Suzaku before the most powerful attack.

Why didn't she dodge ignia's roar?

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I've ranked everyone at their peak

Spoiler: Power Levels

Lol natsu is way too high. Considering that mashima thinks gray=natsu. Natsu is to high

 

[Garmadooon]

Natsu = Gray cannot exist if Natsu is allowed to solo weakened Dragon Gods with POF while Gray fights Hakune and Sai. On the other hand I agree that Natsu is too high he must be High Spriggan Tier level just like Erza. Lucy since her victory against Kyria has reached the Low Spriggan Tier.

 

[FireIce]

I've ranked everyone at their peak

Spoiler: Power Levels

Don't see why DF Nebal is a whole tier below Wendy when he stomped her. Erza and Lucy?

 

[Sevently]

Erza and Lucy?

I forgot them, Erza would be behind Kirin, and Lucy is hard to rank she defeated Kiria but i can't see her defeating Ajeel, Madmole & Neinhart.

Why didn't she dodge ignia's roar?

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Lol natsu is way too high. Considering that mashima thinks gray=natsu. Natsu is to high

Natsu = Gray cannot exist if Natsu is allowed to solo weakened Dragon Gods with POF while Gray fights Hakune and Sai. On the other hand I agree that Natsu is too high he must be High Spriggan Tier level just like Erza. Lucy since her victory against Kyria has reached the Low Spriggan Tier.

I've ranked Natsu at his peak (DF Natsu, Ignia flames..)

Don't see why DF Nebal is a whole tier below Wendy when he stomped her. Erza and Lucy?

Because this is Wendy with Irene assistance, who defeated DF Nebal.

 

[Darklord#10]

I've ranked Natsu at his peak (DF Natsu, Ignia flames

Isn't he still fodder? Infact the only god tier natsu has beaten properly is FH zeref. Natsu at the very least is boundary between august/Eileen tier and low god tier. He's between both tiers.

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I just want to say something Erza and natsu are different. Just because natsu's emotion translates to magic power and make him stronger that does not go for erza. Her emotions does not make her stronger, it's just PLOT INDUCED STUPIDITY. The worst part is that natsu does suffer repercussions for his BS but she Erza doesn't suffer shit from anything. I need canon statement that shows that her emotions translate to mp. Because I find it really ridiculous for gildarts who's supposed to be the strongest and yet he couldn't jack to august but Erza made Eileen look like a joke. And another thing just because natsu's trains does not mean team natsu trains as far as I'm concerned every character should speak for themselves and I've not seen anywhere in the series where Erza trains. We need characters to speak for themselves, one character shouldn't be vouching for others . And I also find it pretty unfair that characters like elfman are still below Mira who is retired. Unnecessary hype is seriously annoying

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Natsu = Gray cannot exist if Natsu is allowed to solo weakened Dragon Gods with POF while Gray fights Hakune and Sai. On the other hand I agree that Natsu is too high he must be High Spriggan Tier level just like Erza. Lucy since her victory against Kyria has reached the Low Spriggan Tier.

If mashima believes natsu=gray. There's nothing I can do about it. He's the author. As much as I don't want to accept it that's just the way it is. Mashima's power scaling doesn't work the same as us. To us we know that Erza and laxus can low diff Mira, but if mashima writes the fight he will completey ignore that laxus solo'd madmolle and skullion and erza is laxus tier. Just look at lightning flame natsu vs iron shadow gajeel. Natsu legit had access to no diff gajeel via fire dragon king but just look how it played out and for mashima it confirms that natsu=gajeel

 

[grey matter]

Natsu = Gray cannot exist if Natsu is allowed to solo weakened Dragon Gods with POF while Gray fights Hakune and Sai. On the other hand I agree that Natsu is too high he must be High Spriggan Tier level just like Erza. Lucy since her victory against Kyria has reached the Low Spriggan Tier.

Natsu solos the whole Spriggans if he goes DF

With just FDKM, yeah he's Erza tier. Stronger with scales, equal or weaker without.

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If mashima believes natsu=gray. There's nothing I can do about it. He's the author. As much as I don't want to accept it that's just the way it is. Mashima's power scaling doesn't work the same as us. To us we know that Erza and laxus can low diff Mira, but if mashima writes the fight he will completey ignore that laxus solo'd madmolle and skullion and erza is laxus tier. Just look at lightning flame natsu vs iron shadow gajeel. Natsu legit had access to no diff gajeel via fire dragon king but just look how it played out and for mashima it confirms that natsu=gajeel

With Mashima we may never know, but honestly I think Mashima just said that to not further piss off Gray fans who are annoyed that Gray has been treated like trash in the spinoff.

See how Mashima writes.
Mashima made Natsu high-extreme diff Gajeel, while restricting FDKM and DF

 

[MyaHeart35]

I forgot them, Erza would be behind Kirin, and Lucy is hard to rank she defeated Kiria but i can't see her defeating Ajeel, Madmole & Neinhart.




I've ranked Natsu at his peak (DF Natsu, Ignia flames..)


Because this is Wendy with Irene assistance, who defeated DF Nebal.

Erza would be stronger than Kirin since she destroyed that benchmark when Miskai was basically comparing Kirin and Erza when she overpowered her dimension. Jellal also shouldn't be that high since we haven't see any feats from him

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu solos the whole Spriggans if he goes DF

With just FDKM, yeah he's Erza tier. Stronger with scales, equal or weaker without.

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With Mashima we may never know, but honestly I think Mashima just said that to not further piss off Gray fans who are annoyed that Gray has been treated like trash in the spinoff.

See how Mashima writes.
Mashima made Natsu high-extreme diff Gajeel, while restricting FDKM and DF

I'm gonna be like you bro, if the author himself doesn't respect the series power scaling I'm not going to bother myself lol. It's crazy how Hiro thinks lightning flame natsu=iron shadow gajeel means natsu=gajeel. Gildarts feats looks like child play when you look at what natsu and erza were doing in Alvarez. Natsu and erza shouldn't even be below gildarts level after Alvarez. I'm gonna be like you bro the power scaling is really atrocious

 

[MyaHeart35]

Natsu solos the whole Spriggans if he goes DF

With just FDKM, yeah he's Erza tier. Stronger with scales, equal or weaker without.

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With Mashima we may never know, but honestly I think Mashima just said that to not further piss off Gray fans who are annoyed that Gray has been treated like trash in the spinoff.

See how Mashima writes.
Mashima made Natsu high-extreme diff Gajeel, while restricting FDKM and DF

Natsu is definitely weaker than Erza and Laxus with fire dragon king since they fought the strongest BDSK. Also Hiro claimed Natsu\Grey/Gajeel on the same tier while Erza laxus and Gildarts are above.

 

[FireIce]

Erza would be stronger than Kirin since she destroyed that benchmark when Miskai was basically comparing Kirin and Erza when she overpowered her dimension. Jellal also shouldn't be that high since we haven't see any feats from him

Erza isn't stronger than Kirin. She stalemated Laxus who was getting ragdolled by him before he ate Elexion's magic power.

 

[Ratrace]

See how Mashima writes.
Mashima made Natsu high-extreme diff Gajeel, while restricting FDKM and DF

He mostly has it where Natsu doesn’t want to use too much MP at least that’s what Natsu says sometimes

 

[Garmadooon]

Natsu is also responsible for the very bad power scaling. Mashima spends his time nerfing his DF mode and not turning it on properly. And then he gets killed every time by fodder like Wraith Haku Hakune. I'm willing to bet that in the next few chapters he's going to get whacked by God Serena or the Signario sisters for the villains hype.