Tower of God Chapter 563 Spoilers & Discussion

Androssi VS Lilial: Who is stronger?

  • Androssi is much stronger.

    Votes: 12 14.3%
  • Lilial is much stronger.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • They are equal.

    Votes: 14 16.7%
  • Androssi is a bit stronger.

    Votes: 35 41.7%
  • Lilial is a bit stronger.

    Votes: 23 27.4%

  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .

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You're delousional. SIU will never make him badass or look cool even once in front of people.
Nonsense bam has done cool shit in front of people all the time, it's because you guys are just desperate to complain about the story cause that you lot love the attention.

Anyway good chapter androssi should be able to win, with the training she got from Yuri, Bam is gonna defeat the snake easily, the fug girl is cute she seems more interested in bam than being their god, she trusts him whole heartedly which other than jinsung is quite rare for fug, Yuri is definitely gonna threaten bam and win the competition to marry him, unless there is rules about strength levels.
 
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...Androssi
Sigh.

1. Androssi is speculating there, no more. We don't know if she's a reliable source. She's a reliable source on things SC (to the extent of what she experienced, not necessarily its entire abilities), but not SS as this seems to be her first time witnessing this version of whatever it is.
2. Despite her speculation, even if true, it seems to indicate that SC did something transformative. Special attention was made in her dialogue about things like "elder snakes" and "strongest" ("while discarding the rest") - a newfound power/knowledge was attained by eating a superior snake. The implication being we are moving, as with time in the fantasy genre tends to be the case, to a stronger version.
3. I asked for a source to support your language "at best SS would be a child of SC" and she doesn't give one. For all we/you know, this is the superior version of SC's snakes, which is hinted at by what she is pondering about.

The entire reason we know SS is connected to Snake Charmer is Androssi revealing that Snake Charmer has children that he keeps and sends out for mysterious reasons.
Except the beyond-obvious character design and the fact that a sizable portion of the fandom was drawing comparisons before Androssi's speculations?

What you described is your interpretation. No one is really certain of what she was talking about - the exact mechanics of SC --> SS - or even if what she is guessing is accurate at any level. It merely adds fuel to the fire that they are related to each other. Which should have been very clear from the moment SS was seen in the bowl.

Except he didn't survive it.
Except he did.

He very clearly stated that the move killed him and he had to spend a long time getting a new body.
If he's alive to talk about it - guess what? He's not dead (short of something like a resurrection). His current shell was killed off, sure, but the entity known as Ren certainly did NOT die.

And it wasn't even a move from Yuri,
...

Which is why I pointedly said Rem survived against a combined assault of Yuri and WT. Yuri easily bested Ren's summons, then WT got involved for the not-so-'killing' blow.

it was an attack from Kurudan, who everything points to being the lowest ranked member of Yuri's infiltration team.
If by "everything points to" it being your absolute headcanon, then, sure. I'd love to see you qualify that in any way beyond just stating it as a statement of fact in an attempt to bolster your *opinion* here.

You're also either leaving out/forgetting it wasn't *just* Kurudan's blow alone, but it was supercharged by yet another powerful Khun ranker.

The only thing we can go off of is that he's a being that Ren considers incredible. That doesn't mean he's well beyond Ren or even on par with Ren, just strong enough that Ren can regonize the power as noteworthy.

And again, as far as we know, Ren is still just a Ranker. Not Advanced and certainly not High.
We are talking about degrees of likelihood, and yet you use words like "certainly."

There has been absolutely *nothing* to indicate that Ren is "certainly" not a HR. There's a large gap below a top500 to the top1000 that is a HR.





You're STILL sidestepping the point that Rei is very unlikely to a) fuck with low-class shinheuh at all on any level and b) send one to harrass/test Baam, who he witnessed is well above your average ranker in abilities firsthand.
 

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But SS was supposed to be a test for Baam?

For me this was just an excuse to kill everyone and leave only the princesses alive and end HJ's plans
 

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I wanted Chad Baam to use Laura as a shield and Lilial to see it.

But that's asking too much
 

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But SS was supposed to be a test for Baam?

For me this was just an excuse to kill everyone and leave only the princesses alive and end HJ's plans
1. Rei sent for SS to be dispatched to the hotel
2. Operating under Rei's orders, the voice sent SS to attack Baam specifically, actually to KILL him and his party (for taking his things)

So, unless the voice (seemingly Kirin or someone operating under Kirin as that's who received Rei's orders on using SS) is adding his own ideas the the mix, then, yes, it is part of the plan by Rei to use SS to test Baam further.
 

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I wanted Chad Baam to use Laura as a shield and Lilial to see it.

But that's asking too much
That's literally a virgin move though. Might as well put Baam in a shitty mask and give him a scythe.
 

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Rei also specifically had Baam kidnap Laura (knowing it would infuriate SS). He could have just commanded her to come or had anyone else do the dirty.

Instead, he purposefully set Baam up so he could wind SS up against him.



I don't see how that's not intentional/yet another test.
 

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Androssi and Lilial’s fight is going to wake up Traum lol.

A lot of similarities rn to the Cage mini-arc!!! - Yama was sleeping during the fang game/canine coup’. - Traum is sleeping during the wedding tournament/PB infiltration!!!
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Baam tested his power Vs Ghost back then and just did so Vs Ren
 

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Androssi and Lilial’s fight is going to wake up Traum lol.

A lot of similarities rn to the Cage mini-arc!!! - Yama was sleeping during the fang game/canine coup’. - Traum is sleeping during the wedding tournament/PB infiltration!!!
Rei doesn't sleep. He mopes.
 

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Traum is sleeping during the wedding tournament/PB infiltration!!!
Kinda weird if he is, honestly. This event is something that Traumerei seems to care about. It doesn't seem like he would just sleep through it.
 

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Why would Enryu show up?
Sorry, I should've finished my thought - if Baam collects the last 2 thorn fragments in this arc during the war (I think Hwa Ryun got the 3rd from Modoraco if I'm not mistaken), maybe it will summon Enryu to get Baam out of the war / away from Zahard.
 

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🤣 if baam squashes the sea snakes by himself like a bug in front of yuri,androssi,lilial everyone there etc. , i wont post a comment from now on.
Your just moving the goal post alot of the characters know of bam strength, and they still worry or underestimate him, cause they care about him, don't understand the weird takes on tog its like everyone switches their brain off trying to complain about things that aren't even relevant, what do you guys want for everyone to bow to bam when they see him and cower in fear, going on and on about how awesome he is etc..., Bam clearly doesn't want to be treated that way, he just want to be normal with his friends, that what separates him from the others except urek, who is similar to bam but everyone loves when he act goofy and playful or his companions treat like normal person no one is bothered, androssi can already sense bam strength when easily blocked her punch or when he activated the orb, she knows he is way beyond her and she still worries same thing with yuri, even if bam shows her he is stronger she doesn't care.
 

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Kinda weird if he is, honestly. This event is something that Traumerei seems to care about. It doesn't seem like he would just sleep through it.
If you read the 557 the mechanics who were observing Holan’s ship said they needed to wait for approval from above and that their FH is sleeping
 

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Androssi and Lilial’s fight is going to wake up Traum lol.

A lot of similarities rn to the Cage mini-arc!!! - Yama was sleeping during the fang game/canine coup’. - Traum is sleeping during the wedding tournament/PB infiltration!!!
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Baam tested his power Vs Ghost back then and just did so Vs Ren
the jesus himself! MASAKA! 😲
 

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1. Rei sent for SS to be dispatched to the hotel
2. Operating under Rei's orders, the voice sent SS to attack Baam specifically, actually to KILL him and his party (for taking his things)

So, unless the voice (seemingly Kirin or someone operating under Kirin as that's who received Rei's orders on using SS) is adding his own ideas the the mix, then, yes, it is part of the plan by Rei to use SS to test Baam further.
So Traumerei is just plain dumb. SC could be stronger than Yuri, it still doesn't make sense to be used to test Baam.

He's already absorbed Leviathan, what's the need for more tests.

It's simply a game using Laura as SS bait, remember that until Lilial acted he only wanted to get Laura.
 

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Sorry, I should've finished my thought - if Baam collects the last 2 thorn fragments in this arc during the war (I think Hwa Ryun got the 3rd from Modoraco if I'm not mistaken), maybe it will summon Enryu to get Baam out of the war / away from Zahard.
I really don't know why you guys have this need for Enryuu or Phantaminium in the story.

If and only If Enryuu comes back, will it involve a flashback or some important information.
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Your just moving the goal post alot of the characters know of bam strength, and they still worry or underestimate him, cause they care about him, don't understand the weird takes on tog its like everyone switches their brain off trying to complain about things that aren't even relevant, what do you guys want for everyone to bow to bam when they see him and cower in fear, going on and on about how awesome he is etc..., Bam clearly doesn't want to be treated that way, he just want to be normal with his friends, that what separates him from the others except urek, who is similar to bam but everyone loves when he act goofy and playful.
Literally any average character despises Baam's strength.
 
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