Tower of God Chapter 563 Spoilers & Discussion

[Big-Bird]

https://void-scans.com/tower-of-god-chapter-563

@Demonspeed veuillez épingler

 

[Ignorant]

Androssi Lo Po Bia Zahard soon

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

To me at least Shinheuhs are familiars. They have no human intellect and can be tamed by Animas. Plus the SS was in a bowl.

Rak is a humanoid gator and clearly not a Shinheuh. He is simply not Human. Same for Anak, she isn't a Shinheuh but from a race different from Humans.

It's not like SIU listed all the races existing so a humanoid snake race isn't out of the question.

That's true, but SS isn't humanoid. It's simply a mass of animals (again, like a mass of ants). Not like Rak is a hybrid/other creature that vaguely resembles a man, but isn't. Or Anak who is clearly a hybrid or entirely different species, but looks at least half human. Those races are distinct from other 'standard' animals and people alike. Snakes are simply snakes. SS is a bunch of snakes, shinheuh, that when combined take on the shape of a human and its mental characteristics as well. This is the SAME as SC actually. Only SC is more developed - in appearance and speech patterns. SS is like a 'missing link'...

Shinheuh have been described as ANY animal in the Tower, and with extremely few exceptions (basically the ancient species in Khel and EVK - if those are even shinheuh to begin with), they aren't really sentient or able to speak. They're just dumb animals that take directions from their masters without question. That's not what we're seeing here with SS at all. He's certainly a one-off.

And what of the fact that each snake that makes up SC could have its own motivations? That means that each snake is an individual. As an individual, they certainly aren't humanoid or anything. We only get speaking from the special leader snake. The rest are just raw creature.

Also reading this chapter. The SS seemed really stupid. I can't believe this thing has human intellect.

It has the ability to speak, remember, desire, etc (sentience). It might be stupid but it has an intellect which is greater than a beast (currently lesser than a full-scale human intellect), and that's how it was described even: having attained "forbidden emotions" - emotions that are more human and less animal in scope, clearly.

The point is there is something Pinocchio or Planet of the Apes going on with SS. An animal/non-sentient object that became more human-like and devoloped human emotions.

 

[King Dryst]

Androssi Lo Po Bia Zahard soon

Was there a Great Horned Yak branch mentioned somewhere?

 

[Turtle hunter]

I know that going with what we know right now, she has LPB genes, i just think that Endorsi might be among the anomalities ala Yama/his mother.
It's not that every GF member is that strong compared to strong exceptions.
Also the story already casted doubts on her lineage (her mother seems weak, the snake hasn't impressed so far)
@King Dryst

I mean it is possible because we don't know her past and SIU like her , so she could very well beat Lilial .

But i think data Maschenny showed that there are difference between standard jahad princess and 10 GF jahad princess . She may be even special among GF jahad princess , but i think other GF jahad princess are beast too .

But given they genetics i would still go for Lilial , i really don't get the impression that Endorsi has seen much competition and seing how absurd Lilial confidence is i see even less chance for Endorsi . If we forget that Endorsi physical stat should be lower than Lilial .

Lilial was chosen among other top talent of her family , so she isn't just just a GF member who happen to get jahad blood .

No she is with her sister the most talented among the most talented family and she got jahad blood .

All GF member have special ability , particulary the most talented have special ability which make them monster even prior to getting jahad blood .

Arie family like White or that guy who fought Ran , got god like sword technique which don't make sense and come from everywhere and anywhere .

Yeon got flame that burned ranker ?

Kaiser got anima which can injure ranker skin .

Data Maschenny got a better version of the lighting pill .

Yuri got god like physical stat .

Endorsi is good , but i don't think she is some special talent unrivaled among her generation like Yuri

Did you guys stop think what does it imply ? She like Kaiser likely has a special ability , a special anima .

Endorsi has some special skill but iy just seem like a pale imitation of a combination between yuri cursed technique and White sword ability .

Endorsi could win , the story presented as a genius , but never really has a genius among other princess . If you read the story well , she never really suffer defeat but she has no real impressive accomplishment . Even for Yama she had to slam onto the ground to injure , i don't think Kaisen would needed , same for Yeon flame .

I could go further by saying that MAschenny thought Ran was very talented and he was just behind a jahad princess in term of talent .

That same Ran fought a half blood jahad princess and nearly won .

Anak fought Endorsi in the first arc , and Endorsi even if she didn't go all out , still wasn't able to beat her easily .

Yihwa in her full form was said to put to shame even Ran , the current jewel of the Koon family .

To be honest Yihwa natural talent should be a lot higher than Endorsi one .

 

[EternalWinter]

In NHS Androssi practically didn't attack, Lilial was doing his stupid monologue, Androssi defended some blows and the moment she attacked Lilial out of nowhere she got serious and used a shinsoo attack, which made Androssi use Bong Bong, and in the end, regardless of who it was stronger there, the fact is: Androssi was not actively fighting.

Either Lilial is the daughter of the snake or Rei, you guys need to decide on the headcannon.

Until today, the only thing that the blood of zahard gives the princesses is a physical boost, the advantage of the princesses of the 10 families is that their physical characteristics are even more boosted of course.

The biggest advantage of the 10F princesses, for me, is that they receive much more privileged training, like Yuri fighting Cheonhee or Maschenny already knowing how to use lightning as a regular (Ran only knows because she taught him after all). Shilial and Lilial may have received training at the same level, however, Androssi bridged that gap after training with Yuri and acquiring his Shinsoo quality. Btw, what I mean is: Take a 10F princess and a normal princess, give them the same level of training, then we will know who is stronger.

If it was a rule that 10F princesses are superior to normal princesses, Anak would never have been a chosen princess and Adori (assuming she's not an experiment or something) would never have gotten to where she is.

The real issue is, for both Adori and Enne's existence, both are the apex of the Zahard princesses, one being the apex of the bloodline and the other a monster. That is, for me, when it comes to measuring the potential of a princess, that alone does not come into play.

Of course, Lilial may have a powerful anima, in contrast Androssi has his shinsoo quality, Lilial is supposedly better than Androssi physically, but this one trained with Yuri, chiffon sword must not be the only thing she learned when Yuri's apex is the reinforcement.

Anyway, summarizing the princesses in mathematics of those who have more genetics doesn't make sense to me.

Honestly, the current Androssi is unknown, we don't know what she did in those 2~3 years as well as we didn't see all of Lilial's power, so in physical terms I put 50-50, in terms of intelligence, 80-20 for Androssi, if it was Shilial, it would be another story.

We don’t know Annak Sr. Surname

 

[Vali x lucifer]

I mean it is possible because we don't know her past and SIU like her , so she could very well beat Lilial .

But i think data Maschenny showed that there are difference between standard jahad princess and 10 GF jahad princess . She may be even special among GF jahad princess , but i think other GF jahad princess are beast too .

But given they genetics i would still go for Lilial , i really don't get the impression that Endorsi has seen much competition and seing how absurd Lilial confidence is i see even less chance for Endorsi . If we forget that Endorsi physical stat should be lower than Lilial .

Lilial was chosen among other top talent of her family , so she isn't just just a GF member who happen to get jahad blood .

No she is with her sister the most talented among the most talented family and she got jahad blood .

All GF member have special ability , particulary the most talented have special ability which make them monster even prior to getting jahad blood .

Arie family like White or that guy who fought Ran , got god like sword technique which don't make sense and come from everywhere and anywhere .

Yeon got flame that burned ranker ?

Kaiser got anima which can injure ranker skin .

Data Maschenny got a better version of the lighting pill .

Yuri got god like physical stat .

Endorsi is good , but i don't think she is some special talent unrivaled among her generation like Yuri

Did you guys stop think what does it imply ? She like Kaiser likely has a special ability , a special anima .

Endorsi has some special skill but iy just seem like a pale imitation of a combination between yuri cursed technique and White sword ability .

Endorsi could win , the story presented as a genius , but never really has a genius among other princess . If you read the story well , she never really suffer defeat but she has no real impressive accomplishment . Even for Yama she had to slam onto the ground to injure , i don't think Kaisen would needed , same for Yeon flame .

I could go further by saying that MAschenny thought Ran was very talented and he was just behind a jahad princess in term of talent .

That same Ran fought a half blood jahad princess and nearly won .

Anak fought Endorsi in the first arc , and Endorsi even if she didn't go all out , still wasn't able to beat her easily .

Yihwa in her full form was said to put to shame even Ran , the current jewel of the Koon family .

To be honest Yihwa natural talent should be a lot higher than Endorsi one .

I believe that Lilial has potential (she is a GF princess duh), i just don't see her right now showing it. Traumerei chose her to marry an Irregular, so either he:
1 was just playing a prank on both
2 he believes Lilial will become a big shot in the future
3 has some doubts about her, but knows she could do great things if pushed/tested
4 he gave up on her, plans on her to die.

I believe we are likely on 3, so after a particularly traumatic or character building experience probably involving Baam she might grow. But right now, against Endorsi i don't see her coming out as strong/competent enough to win. I am just speculating obviously.

 

[Aliblack]

It was an entertaining fight. Strategic fights are always welcome. I wonder what Rey is doing. He wants to kill everyone, but now that Yuri has arrived, there is no way to kill these two girls. Or he may pull off some new trick (trying hard to trust Rey).


Snake dude might be suffering from a mental disorder. He was delusional about banging Laura all the time, and they put him in that storeroom as an asylum. Just kidding. Snake dude route would offer a more interesting storyline.

 

[Ignorant]

Was there a Great Horned Yak branch mentioned somewhere?

Adopted by the snake branch or a dragon branch

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 20, 2023, Original Post Date: Mar 20, 2023 ---

You can’t say im crazy you guys spent like 3 month saying Dowon was Eurasia just for her pink hair and shinsu
Im more based

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

You can’t say im crazy you guys spent like 3 month saying Dowon was Eurasia just for her pink hair and shinsu
Im more based

Never proven untrue btw.

SIU gets tired or forgets about characters.

 

[Jammin]

Haha, Yuri didn't waste any time as expected of her.

As for whether or not Androssi is stronger and by how much. I think probably a lot. The thing about Androssi is that she's not from a major family. The reasons she excelled enough to be a princess in the first place is because she's just a mass of talent. After all this time to process what she learned during the hidden floor on the hell train, I think she's going to stomp Lilial pretty hard.

 

[Big-Bird]

To me at least Shinheuhs are familiars. They have no human intellect and can be tamed by Animas. Plus the SS was in a bowl.

Dobo is 100% shinheuh, yet his intelligence is comparable to a human.

 

[Jammin]

Should probably give SIU some credit here since I tend to be a bit critical of the way he draws his fights. This was good work.

He kept it simple this time but that also made it work better, IMO. With the way the two were flanking and the art used that staircase as landmark to make it easy to understand what was happening relative to what in a fairly clear way. So thumbs up.

 

[Aliblack]

When Hemus suggested to Androssi that she use Bongbong, she said in the Void Scans translation that it's too tiring to use it too often for long distances. Then, we can see her holding her knees while trying to catch her breath. I thought that the only problem could be due to the energy limitation of Bongbong, not the user.


Another time I recall Bongbong acting wisely was when Androssi used it to locate Bam on the Data Floor. This weapon doesn't sound like one getting thrown away on the upper floors. Maybe, an ignition is coming.

 

[EternalWinter]

White as in vicente? I feel like we don't know enough about him to know where he stands on anything. IIRC one of the flashbacks where we saw vicente and hoaquin interacting implied vicente was already planning some stuff to try and get stronger than his father. Perhaps even being more evil than hoaquin himself. That said, his approach to power will likely be different to white's. And perhaps for story purposes faster since the implication is that the original white spent quite some time gathering souls.

As for fug, they are definitely beginning to rally behind bam. His feats are not unknown to them and they suit their own purposes for the most part. Though it is worth noting that FUG has never been a group unified in purpose or even methods. They all have their own agendas. Seth remains dormant as far as we know so he probably doesn't give a crap about bam. Sofia is not necessarily fully onboard because from her perspective bam disappeared from the nest and the next thing she heard a family head was trying to marry him into the family. Khel hellam is probably on board though he wasn't exactly adamant on starting a war with zahard. So... bam is probably in a better spot than he was fug wise but it's not necessarily all rosy. It's also wouldn't be that unreasonable for some fug elements to be skeptical of irregulars given how irregulars are their problem to begin with. I'd be pretty warry of replacing zahard with a brunette zahard.

Yeah as in Vincente, the flashback shows that Vincente gave the book and the idea to Hoaquin preying on his insecurity. He's also the one who was able to undo the seal left by a FH. Clearly the best study of the five siblings. Hoaquin is the one who got tricked into making the contract and suffers from the hunger. Vincente pretty much played his brother. But at the same time while he's more "evil" in that regard, he's not a fucking idiot. He wont try to eat Baam. Baam alive is worth more since it means there will be a constant stream of bodies behind him

 

[O_n_Sly]

A couple of updates: WEBTOON is back!

Robadon is a DD —-> Cacede is third unit commander and one of his grandchildren. Laura too is a granddaughter and aunt to cacede
Yuri’s probation is military conscription(I was wrong, no power seal)
JamJam is an AR
SS is actually SM Serpent Master - it’s in the FH’s storage room!
What KIRIN actually says to SM - my snakes, you immortal beasts that bite off your own tails and sprout 2 heads instead, I pity you, …now that you’ve awoken to forbidden emotions.

 

[kkck]

The mechanics of bong bong vary according to what siu needs from the plot. I suppose it's possible androsi can now use her own shinsoo to power up bong bong 2 years after getting substantially improved shinsoo control at the hidden floor? In any case, the distance it can carry her should be decreasing over time regardless of how strong she is. It could still be useful in the higher floors though. Even if it can only teleport a few meters in the upper floors that's still a big deal in the middle of a battle.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Also I think Endorsi’s bong went through the portal! The background looks similar to the dock in 557!

 

[DeadCosmos]

Fight scenes from season 1 are better.

 

[CountDookoe]

the real question is who is gonna have Baam’s baby.

It’s gotta be either Yuri, Androssi or Ewha. seeing as Ewha is not a princess she has legally the biggest chance.

But i don’t think Yuri will give a fuck about the rules and beg to get her back blown out first.

 

[King Dryst]

A couple of updates: WEBTOON is back!

the real question is who is gonna have Baam’s baby.

It’s gotta be either Yuri, Androssi or Ewha. seeing as Ewha is not a princess she has legally the biggest chance.

But i don’t think Yuri will give a fuck about the rules and beg to get her back blown out first.

Probably none of them because making a baby takes time he could spend training instead, and that's how Baam is.