Canon Human acnologia vs human Eileen

[Axiomus]

Human Acno did better against the 7 Dragon Slayers than dragon Irene did against just Wendy and Erza. He stomps.

Nope, the manga stated that is how his mindset works since Tenrou Arc. He said that not talking to them means he doesn’t use all his power. Acno also said that he can do the same thing that he could ruling in the world, so that is a level of threat Zeref is viewed as to Acno which makes sense he would talk to him. Zeref also said that he made it to counter Acno as well. Yeah no if he was immune to magic then he wouldn’t have been sent away by her U1 spell, which means that she can overcome it with stronger spells like how any Slayer immunity can. Erza had Irene‘s empowerment as well. It does weaken as magic is based on mindset as well, if you lack concentration you can’t put your all into it. But Kagura never experiences pleasure before. And Irene has been in constant pain for 400 years

Nope. Not once has anyone said that if Acnologia is going all out if he talks to you. Zeref just said Acno doesn't talk to humans because he views them as insects. Acnologia acknowledging that Zeref has the power to rule the world doesn't mean he views Zeref on his level. He laughed at the idea that Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, could beat him. Zeref, Irene, and August have all admitted that the Alvarez Empire needs Fairy Heart to stand a chance against Acnologia.

Universe One just warps the land. It doesn't actually do anything to Acnologia.

The point is that Larcade's pleasure is nothing special. It just makes you feel horny. Kagura countered pleasure when Larcade used it against her by biting her tongue. The pain from Kagura biting her tongue was more intense than the pleasure, which means it's easy to just override Larcade's pleasure by inflicting minor pain to yourself. Acno was able to make a roar strong enough to blow Igneel's body to pieces after getting his arm torn off. The pain from getting a limb blown off is far more debilitating than the pleasure from Larcade.

 

[WoWfan]

Human Acno did better against the 7 Dragon Slayers than dragon Irene did against just Wendy and Erza. He stomps.




Nope. Not once has anyone said that if Acnologia is going all out if he talks to you. Zeref just said Acno doesn't talk to humans because he views them as insects. Acnologia acknowledging that Zeref has the power to rule the world doesn't mean he views Zeref on his level. He laughed at the idea that Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, could beat him. Zeref, Irene, and August have all admitted that the Alvarez Empire needs Fairy Heart to stand a chance against Acnologia.

Universe One just warps the land. It doesn't actually do anything to Acnologia.

The point is that Larcade's pleasure is nothing special. It just makes you feel horny. Kagura countered pleasure when Larcade used it against her by biting her tongue. The pain from Kagura biting her tongue was more intense than the pleasure, which means it's easy to just override Larcade's pleasure by inflicting minor pain to yourself. Acno was able to make a roar strong enough to blow Igneel's body to pieces after getting his arm torn off. The pain from getting a limb blown off is far more debilitating than the pleasure from Larcade.

RoT Acno was delivering a deadly serious attack against an already massively tiered Natsu and it did nothing, if Natsu can survive that, then that would mean so can Irene in a normal state, especially if it’s not RoT Human Acno. It did since Tenrou. he said that no one goes all out when it comes to insects, his mind set is the same. It does when it comes to destruction, and destruction requires using power, Acno compares Zeref to himself when Zeref was the one who stated he could make the effort. And yet he was the one that was sent away, considering his nature it would make sense why they need it for Zeref’s grand plan. It did as it sends people to other directions too. Kagura never experienced it before, so it would make sense why she could overcome it, Sting couldn’t counter sleep with pain though seeing as he experienced it before too. I doubt someone like Acno would be bothered by pain for most of the time, it only throbs randomly so he can’t really count on that.

 

[WoWfan]

Anyway, Acno takes this with Magic Immunity and extreme high diff stats.

 

[Darklord#10]

Anyway, Acno takes this with Magic Immunity and extreme high diff stats.

Show me the feats that suggest human Eileen gives human acnologia extreme diff

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I'm sorry for the spam but sometimes we just have to call a spade a spade. None of us here are 10/10 debaters but when someone is trying to tell me that Eileen can battle acnologia it makes me wonder if we're reading the same series.
https://ibb.co/nw6zZLn how can we all read this same scan and yet two people are able to extrapolate that Eileen is stronger than acnologia? Like how? Like I know fairy tail has garbage power scaling but this debate should be obvious. Anyways part of the reason I created this thread was because of this, so we can know who and who are the ones not to debate moving forward. He literally just only used one attack, like bro only one fucking attack.

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RoT Acno was delivering a deadly serious attack against an already massively tiered Natsu and it did nothing, if Natsu can survive that, then that would mean so can Irene in a normal state, especially if it’s not RoT Human Acno. It did since Tenrou. he said that no one goes all out when it comes to insects, his mind set is the same. It does when it comes to destruction, and destruction requires using power, Acno compares Zeref to himself when Zeref was the one who stated he could make the effort. And yet he was the one that was sent away, considering his nature it would make sense why they need it for Zeref’s grand plan. It did as it sends people to other directions too. Kagura never experienced it before, so it would make sense why she could overcome it, Sting couldn’t counter sleep with pain though seeing as he experienced it before too. I doubt someone like Acno would be bothered by pain for most of the time, it only throbs randomly so he can’t really count on that.

I'm reading this and I'm like what the fuck are you talking about? Like bro this ain't your fanfiction stop talking nonsense. Like WTF is wrong with you Eileen wankers? She got wrecked by Erza how is acnologia not doing the same or are you trying to tell me Erza is stronger than acnologia now? Holy fuck this is just crazy to me, the selective reading. ACNOLOGIA LITERALLY SAID SHE'S IMPRESSIVE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT SHE IS ZEREF'S STUDENT. Like come on be serious for once and stop trolling it's not fucking funny anymore

 

[WoWfan]

Show me the feats that suggest human Eileen gives human acnologia extreme diff

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2023, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2023 ---

I'm sorry for the spam but sometimes we just have to call a spade a spade. None of us here are 10/10 debaters but when someone is trying to tell me that Eileen can battle acnologia it makes me wonder if we're reading the same series.
https://ibb.co/nw6zZLn how can we all read this same scan and yet two people are able to extrapolate that Eileen is stronger than acnologia? Like how? Like I know fairy tail has garbage power scaling but this debate should be obvious. Anyways part of the reason I created this thread was because of this, so we can know who and who are the ones not to debate moving forward. He literally just only used one attack, like bro only one fucking attack.

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I'm reading this and I'm like what the fuck are you talking about? Like bro this ain't your fanfiction stop talking nonsense. Like WTF is wrong with you Eileen wankers? She got wrecked by Erza how is acnologia not doing the same or are you trying to tell me Erza is stronger than acnologia now? Holy fuck this is just crazy to me, the selective reading. ACNOLOGIA LITERALLY SAID SHE'S IMPRESSIVE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT SHE IS ZEREF'S STUDENT. Like come on be serious for once and stop trolling it's not fucking funny anymore

Show me were it is my so called fanfic? I did not say Irene is stronger, I said Acno talks this extreme diff because of Acno stating that Irene is strong and that he talks to her, unlike most of his enemies, and considering her magic did affect him via U1, it shows that his immunity has a limit like any other Slayer like Natsu with his heat limit via Planck Temperatures. Again, Erza had Irene’s power up when Wendy was in her body, even Wendy with Irene in her body could beat up Erza who was attacking Wendy as well, and Wendy said Irene’s Magic was greater than her own, that would show that Irene is still above that. Even Acno with RBT with a serious attack could not down even a tired Natsu, how is he suppose to down a fresh Irene? And Acno said that Zeref can rule the world through destruction like Acno can, it shows a sense of comparability.

 

[Darklord#10]

Show me were it is my so called fanfic? I did not say Irene is stronger, I said Acno talks this extreme diff because of Acno stating that Irene is strong and that he talks to her, unlike most of his enemies, and considering her magic did affect him via U1, it shows that his immunity has a limit like any other Slayer like Natsu with his heat limit via Planck Temperatures. Again, Erza had Irene’s power up when Wendy was in her body, even Wendy with Irene in her body could beat up Erza who was attacking Wendy as well, and Wendy said Irene’s Magic was greater than her own, that would show that Irene is still above that. Even Acno with RBT with a serious attack could not down even a tired Natsu, how is he suppose to down a fresh Irene? And Acno said that Zeref can rule the world through destruction like Acno can, it shows a sense of comparability.

Nah I'm not going to debate you bro.

Show me were it is my so called fanfic? I did not say Irene is stronger, I said Acno talks this extreme diff because of Acno stating that Irene is strong and that he talks to her, unlike most of his enemies, and considering her magic did affect him via U1, it shows that his immunity has a limit like any other Slayer like Natsu with his heat limit via Planck Temperatures. Again, Erza had Irene’s power up when Wendy was in her body, even Wendy with Irene in her body could beat up Erza who was attacking Wendy as well, and Wendy said Irene’s Magic was greater than her own, that would show that Irene is still above that. Even Acno with RBT with a serious attack could not down even a tired Natsu, how is he suppose to down a fresh Irene? And Acno said that Zeref can rule the world through destruction like Acno can, it shows a sense of comparability.

Not me. I hope axiomus can convince you otherwise. I can't be bothered by someone who thinks Eileen extreme diff acnologia

 

[WoWfan]

Nah I'm not going to debate you bro.


Not me. I hope axiomus can convince you otherwise. I can't be bothered by someone who thinks Eileen extreme diff acnologia

Axiomus at least argues in good faith compared to you, i said Acno takes this, stop making things up.

 

[Darklord#10]

Axiomus at least argues in good faith compared to you, i said Acno takes this, stop making things up.

Lmao I try my best to argue in good faith but you? Lmao no. You literally trying to make arrangements for Eileen being a rival to acnologia. You never argue in good faith bro. Eileen beats igneel right?

 

[Axiomus]

RoT Acno was delivering a deadly serious attack against an already massively tiered Natsu and it did nothing, if Natsu can survive that, then that would mean so can Irene in a normal state, especially if it’s not RoT Human Acno. It did since Tenrou. he said that no one goes all out when it comes to insects, his mind set is the same. It does when it comes to destruction, and destruction requires using power, Acno compares Zeref to himself when Zeref was the one who stated he could make the effort. And yet he was the one that was sent away, considering his nature it would make sense why they need it for Zeref’s grand plan. It did as it sends people to other directions too. Kagura never experienced it before, so it would make sense why she could overcome it, Sting couldn’t counter sleep with pain though seeing as he experienced it before too. I doubt someone like Acno would be bothered by pain for most of the time, it only throbs randomly so he can’t really count on that.

Nope. ROT Acno was toying with Natsu for most of the fight.The only time he tried to kill Natsu was when Natsu said dragons were nice. Even then Acno didnt go all out. Acno only started trying get serious after Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone's power, and the attack Acno was charging up never landed on Natsu because Fairy Sphere paralysed him. Acno would have destroyed Natsu with his attack otherwise.

Zeref didnt say Acno doesnt go all out against insects. He said Acno is so far above humanity that he views them as insects, and canf be bothered to talk to them. This doesnt mean Acno goes all out against everyone he talks to. It just means he no longer views them as insects.

Acno saying that Zeref can rule the world too if he tried doesnt mean that he views Zeref on his level. It just means Zeref can take over the world. Zeref admits that Acnologia is stronger than him, to the point that the entire Alvarez isnt enough to beat Acno. He is afraid that Acno would turn him and Mavis into toys. Acno doesnt believe that Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, can beat him. Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, doesnt plan on fighting Acnologia directly. He plans on going back in time and teaming up with Natsu to fight Acno before he gets powerful. Zeref with Fairy Heart is weaker than Natsu, and Natsu is weaker than Acno. It's incredibly dishonest to imply that either Acno or Zeref implied they were equals, when both have explicitly stated they believe Acno to be vastly stronger.

Only the AOE requires people to experience pleasure before. Larcade can make people feel pleasure if he targets them specifically. Yukino never experienced pleasure before either, and Larcade still made her horny as anyone else. Kagura was able to bite her tongue and easily negate pleasure, meaning it's simply not hard to overcome pleasure.
Pain of biting your tongue > pleasure. RIP is Larcade's strongest magic. It's harder to resist than pleasure and Irene was never subjected to it, so it's irrelevant.

 

[WoWfan]

Lmao I try my best to argue in good faith but you? Lmao no. You literally trying to make arrangements for Eileen being a rival to acnologia. You never argue in good faith bro. Eileen beats igneel right?

not my fault Hiro sets Irene up in situations where Acno goes all out against her. what are you talking about? Acno beats her in extreme diff.

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Nope. ROT Acno was toying with Natsu for most of the fight.The only time he tried to kill Natsu was when Natsu said dragons were nice. Even then Acno didnt go all out. Acno only started trying get serious after Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone's power, and the attack Acno was charging up never landed on Natsu because Fairy Sphere paralysed him. Acno would have destroyed Natsu with his attack otherwise.

Zeref didnt say Acno doesnt go all out against insects. He said Acno is so far above humanity that he views them as insects, and canf be bothered to talk to them. This doesnt mean Acno goes all out against everyone he talks to. It just means he no longer views them as insects.

Acno saying that Zeref can rule the world too if he tried doesnt mean that he views Zeref on his level. It just means Zeref can take over the world. Zeref admits that Acnologia is stronger than him, to the point that the entire Alvarez isnt enough to beat Acno. He is afraid that Acno would turn him and Mavis into toys. Acno doesnt believe that Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, can beat him. Zeref, even with Fairy Heart, doesnt plan on fighting Acnologia directly. He plans on going back in time and teaming up with Natsu to fight Acno before he gets powerful. Zeref with Fairy Heart is weaker than Natsu, and Natsu is weaker than Acno. It's incredibly dishonest to imply that either Acno or Zeref implied they were equals, when both have explicitly stated they believe Acno to be vastly stronger.

Only the AOE requires people to experience pleasure before. Larcade can make people feel pleasure if he targets them specifically. Yukino never experienced pleasure before either, and Larcade still made her horny as anyone else. Kagura was able to bite her tongue and easily negate pleasure, meaning it's simply not hard to overcome pleasure.
Pain of biting your tongue > pleasure. RIP is Larcade's strongest magic. It's harder to resist than pleasure and Irene was never subjected to it, so it's irrelevant.

I doubt him losing it at the end where anger takes him and attacks with a serious blow is anything considered toying, and even then Natsu who was already tired and worn down took the blow from an nigh omnipotent Dragon King at this point and did not go down. How is Irene going down from a base Acno non serious? Eh, I don't really think that was the only time he was taking it serious when he was serious before when angered. and Zeref said no one goes all out against insects which he said Acno's personality is the same. So he would go all out against those he bother to respond to thus not viewing as insects. He said Zeref can rule the world the same way Acno can if he tried in the area of destruction, Zeref also said why not have Acno challenge him right before Alvarez arc. it would go to show that he believe that he has confidence. Considering that Acno is immune to magic and can eat it, is not a viable option. Zeref is only weaker than Natsu when he goes past his heat immunity limits where he burns time, something he cannot afford to do again, it is basically a one time power up that can't be utilized. Again, a nerfed Zeref could damage a Dragon God in dragon form, not even Gildarts who can't really control his magic would be that much of a threat considering that he is still above Natsu. Yukino never experienced pleasure sure but Larcade used a different method with his tendrils, which would make sense for it to be overcome with pain there, but not with anyone else like Irene who is in constant pain her entire life which was still affected. RIP is basically the sleep version of Pleasure as anyone experienced sleep in their lives. Like you said, it is a matter of area of effect thing so it would not go that far, besides we never cut to her or anyone else beyond the focused group again.

 

[Garmadooon]

not my fault Hiro sets Irene up in situations where Acno goes all out against her.

Not surprised people here are complaining about the Irene wank when I see your comments

 

[Axiomus]

not my fault Hiro sets Irene up in situations where Acno goes all out against her. what are you talking about? Acno beats her in extreme diff.

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I doubt him losing it at the end where anger takes him and attacks with a serious blow is anything considered toying, and even then Natsu who was already tired and worn down took the blow from an nigh omnipotent Dragon King at this point and did not go down. How is Irene going down from a base Acno non serious? Eh, I don't really think that was the only time he was taking it serious when he was serious before when angered. and Zeref said no one goes all out against insects which he said Acno's personality is the same. So he would go all out against those he bother to respond to thus not viewing as insects. He said Zeref can rule the world the same way Acno can if he tried in the area of destruction, Zeref also said why not have Acno challenge him right before Alvarez arc. it would go to show that he believe that he has confidence. Considering that Acno is immune to magic and can eat it, is not a viable option. Zeref is only weaker than Natsu when he goes past his heat immunity limits where he burns time, something he cannot afford to do again, it is basically a one time power up that can't be utilized. Again, a nerfed Zeref could damage a Dragon God in dragon form, not even Gildarts who can't really control his magic would be that much of a threat considering that he is still above Natsu. Yukino never experienced pleasure sure but Larcade used a different method with his tendrils, which would make sense for it to be overcome with pain there, but not with anyone else like Irene who is in constant pain her entire life which was still affected. RIP is basically the sleep version of Pleasure as anyone experienced sleep in their lives. Like you said, it is a matter of area of effect thing so it would not go that far, besides we never cut to her or anyone else beyond the focused group again.

Acno used an attack that he thought would kill Natsu, but Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone's power. That's how Natsu survived that hit. He wasnt exhausted. He just recieved a massive powerup. Acno, realizing what happened, started charging up an attack strong enough to destroy 7DS Natsu. This attack never landed because of Fairy Sphere.

Irene struggled massively against just Erza and Wendy, who cut down her strongest spelland dragon form. Acno > 7DS > Erza and Wendy.

Zeref ssays Acno views humans like insects, and doesnt talk to them or use all his power against them. That doesnt mean Acno is going all out against people he's willing to talk to. I dont go all out to kill an ant. I dont view children as insects, but that doesnt mean I have to go all out to beat up a kid. This also exposes another difference between Zeref and Acnologia. Acnologia can run over humanity like they're insects. Zeref has to use his influence to create an empire to wage war against a single guild. A war in which he lost.


Yukino was targeted by Larcade's magic to feel pleasure, and felt just as horny as anyone else. Larcade tried the same thing on Kagura who countered it by biting her tongue. Pleasure simply isnt that hard to deal with. RIP was stated by Larcade himself to be his strongest magic. It is superior to pleasure and hunger. In any case, none of Larcade's powers makes anyone's magic weaker. It makes them horny, hungry, and sleepy. None of which are more debilitating than literally getting an arm blown off.

 

[WoWfan]

Not surprised people here are complaining about the Irene wank when I see your comments

not sure what you mean by that but whatever

Acno used an attack that he thought would kill Natsu, but Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone's power. That's how Natsu survived that hit. He wasnt exhausted. He just recieved a massive powerup. Acno, realizing what happened, started charging up an attack strong enough to destroy 7DS Natsu. This attack never landed because of Fairy Sphere.

Irene struggled massively against just Erza and Wendy, who cut down her strongest spelland dragon form. Acno > 7DS > Erza and Wendy.

Zeref ssays Acno views humans like insects, and doesnt talk to them or use all his power against them. That doesnt mean Acno is going all out against people he's willing to talk to. I dont go all out to kill an ant. I dont view children as insects, but that doesnt mean I have to go all out to beat up a kid. This also exposes another difference between Zeref and Acnologia. Acnologia can run over humanity like they're insects. Zeref has to use his influence to create an empire to wage war against a single guild. A war in which he lost.


Yukino was targeted by Larcade's magic to feel pleasure, and felt just as horny as anyone else. Larcade tried the same thing on Kagura who countered it by biting her tongue. Pleasure simply isnt that hard to deal with. RIP was stated by Larcade himself to be his strongest magic. It is superior to pleasure and hunger. In any case, none of Larcade's powers makes anyone's magic weaker. It makes them horny, hungry, and sleepy. None of which are more debilitating than literally getting an arm blown off.

That came after, even if it was before, it would still be not enough to be considered full power base Natsu considering the constant battles they all went through against and insanely amped acno. that doesn't stop his previous attack from being serious either. Erza had Irene's power up back then and Wendy while Irene possessed her used her potential to overpower Erza. Zeref didn't say you don't acknowledge their strength if not insects or only use some power against those not insects. You are not Acno though, you don't get to say his personality is the same as yours as how you view insects, his is the same as another person who goes all out against those who are not insects. That was a simple war game which Irene calls him out on which he doesn't take seriously. she was targetted by tendrils while those who experiences pleasure before didn't because it was natural to them. Of course not if you never felt pleasure before. He didn't say strongest, but said it was irresistible because everyone experiences sleep even Acno. It does as your mindset is also tethered to the strength of your magic, especially hunger which you run out of magic at that point. Irene is in pain for 400 years and yet still felt pleasure, that would discourage any notion of resistance to those who experienced it before.

 

[Axiomus]

That came after, even if it was before, it would still be not enough to be considered full power base Natsu considering the constant battles they all went through against and insanely amped acno. that doesn't stop his previous attack from being serious either. Erza had Irene's power up back then and Wendy while Irene possessed her used her potential to overpower Erza. Zeref didn't say you don't acknowledge their strength if not insects or only use some power against those not insects. You are not Acno though, you don't get to say his personality is the same as yours as how you view insects, his is the same as another person who goes all out against those who are not insects. That was a simple war game which Irene calls him out on which he doesn't take seriously. she was targetted by tendrils while those who experiences pleasure before didn't because it was natural to them. Of course not if you never felt pleasure before. He didn't say strongest, but said it was irresistible because everyone experiences sleep even Acno. It does as your mindset is also tethered to the strength of your magic, especially hunger which you run out of magic at that point. Irene is in pain for 400 years and yet still felt pleasure, that would discourage any notion of resistance to those who experienced it before.

Nope. Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone' power. That's what allowed him to survive Acno's attack. Acno wasnt going all out, cuz he charged up an even stronger attack after that.

Erza never got a power up from Irene. What are you talking about? The only thing that comes evenly remotely resembles Erza getting a power up from Irene is when Wendy used Irene's body to cast deus corona. But that's just an enchantment that boosts Erza's stats, and it's a spell that Irene cant even cast. Erza never recieved any of Irene's MP.

I dont have to be Acno lol. Your logic is simply flawed to begin with. Nobody has ever said that Acno goes all out against people he talk to. Zeref simply said that Acno doesnt talk to humans or use his full strength against them because he views them as insects. Talking to someone just means Acno doesnt view them as insects. It doesnt mean that Zeref views them as an equal. It certainly doesnt mean he's using all his strength against them.

Zeref was dead serious against Natsu in their final fight, and still lost. Natsu is weaker than Acno.

If RIP is irrestible then it's automatically better than pleasure. Because pleasure can be resisted. It doesnt matter if Kagura never felt pleasure before, because Larcade can make her feel by targetting her.

Feeling horny has never made anyone's magic weaker. Hunger saps your strength, your physical strength. It doesnt make your MP weaker. The most you can say is that feeling horny might distract you, but it's simply not even close to being as distracting as having an arm blown off. Acno can muster enough magic to blow Igneel to bits and physical tear God Serena up with an open wound.

Also, Irene wasnt in pain for 400 years. She was absolutely fine until Zeref turned her into a human. Then she couldnt taste anything when she ate. She felt itchy, cold, and apparently felt some pain. That's just what it feels like for a dragon to transform into a human. Acno and Elfseria probably had to deal with this too. They just dont complain.

 

[WoWfan]

Nope. Wendy enchanted Natsu with everyone' power. That's what allowed him to survive Acno's attack. Acno wasnt going all out, cuz he charged up an even stronger attack after that.

Erza never got a power up from Irene. What are you talking about? The only thing that comes evenly remotely resembles Erza getting a power up from Irene is when Wendy used Irene's body to cast deus corona. But that's just an enchantment that boosts Erza's stats, and it's a spell that Irene cant even cast. Erza never recieved any of Irene's MP.

I dont have to be Acno lol. Your logic is simply flawed to begin with. Nobody has ever said that Acno goes all out against people he talk to. Zeref simply said that Acno doesnt talk to humans or use his full strength against them because he views them as insects. Talking to someone just means Acno doesnt view them as insects. It doesnt mean that Zeref views them as an equal. It certainly doesnt mean he's using all his strength against them.

Zeref was dead serious against Natsu in their final fight, and still lost. Natsu is weaker than Acno.

If RIP is irrestible then it's automatically better than pleasure. Because pleasure can be resisted. It doesnt matter if Kagura never felt pleasure before, because Larcade can make her feel by targetting her.

Feeling horny has never made anyone's magic weaker. Hunger saps your strength, your physical strength. It doesnt make your MP weaker. The most you can say is that feeling horny might distract you, but it's simply not even close to being as distracting as having an arm blown off. Acno can muster enough magic to blow Igneel to bits and physical tear God Serena up with an open wound.

Also, Irene wasnt in pain for 400 years. She was absolutely fine until Zeref turned her into a human. Then she couldnt taste anything when she ate. She felt itchy, cold, and apparently felt some pain. That's just what it feels like for a dragon to transform into a human. Acno and Elfseria probably had to deal with this too. They just dont complain.

Correction, that came after, as we see the power from the other slayers did not start transferring into Natsu until after he got hit, as there are same panels that showed no streams that flowed from them into him until after, and the anime backs this up as well as it came afterward. Charging up another attack doesn't make his previous one any less serious. Boosting stats is a power up, it doesn't matter, especially when it comes from a powerful individual like Irene's body, yes she can as it is her body, Wendy could not case separation enchantment on her own without Irene's teachings in the sequel which proves that any spell Wendy used with Irene's body is Irene's, otherwise Irene would be able to use Sky Dragon Slayer magic on her own as well. They don't trade magic powers, don't know what you are talking about, they used their respective magic powers as Wendy stated that it is her power and how Irene in Wendy's body has weakened substantially. That is basically saying he does go all out against those he does talk to as he doesn't view them as ants, because all is either everything or not, there is no in between, Zeref literally said their personality is the same thing with Acno. Natsu used a one time power up which he can't use on a fly especially against someone who is immune to magic. It's irresistible in the sense that people require sleep, you can't function without it, your body would break down. Which is something that can normally be overcome by those who haven't experienced it before. Sting didn't even use any magic when he was hunger, if was you said is true then that shouldn’t stop him from using magic, MP is also basically like a food source as Natsu puts it, it is like if Lucy was a slayer she would eat other spirits, and considering that there are foods that are made of fire, it speaks volumes in of themselves. Lucy went through a training montage about how meditation and mental concentration is key to increasing one's magic power, thus, any form of mental inhibition would hamper your magic power. So? Gildarts lost an arm, leg and guts and he is overcome with pleasure, so that point is moot. fair enough, missed the part about centuries pass but still, Gildarts proves that even with that level of loss body parts is not enough to overcome it. Or that was the side affect of Zeref's magic, we do not know if that is the same for anyone else considering that even Natsu could tell when a human that turned into a dragon was originally human.

 

[grey matter]

Human Acno one shots her human form and dragon form. Only wankers say otherwise

 

[WoWfan]

Human Acno one shots her human form and dragon form. Only wankers say otherwise

But if someone like Haku who is Suzaku’s level gets defeated by someone weaker than Irene. It would be a far more difficult fight than just one shot.

 

[Garmadooon]

But if someone like Haku who is Suzaku’s level gets defeated by someone weaker than Irene. It would be a far more difficult fight than just one shot.

In the guild you literally have Gildarts Laxus Erza who can beat him. If Natsu was helped by Irene he would also have beaten him with his FDKM spells. I know Haku held back against Wendy because he loves her but he's not as strong as you think, just a made up opponent for Wendy.

 

[WoWfan]

In the guild you literally have Gildarts Laxus Erza who can beat him. If Natsu was helped by Irene he would also have beaten him with his FDKM spells. I know Haku held back against Wendy because he loves her but he's not as strong as you think, just a made up opponent for Wendy.

Despite him having abilities for Wendy’s enchantment, that doesn’t make him physically weak, remember that Magic Power is equal to one’s stats as their bodies have to withstand the amount they carry. Natsu even agreed just because Haku is small does not make him weak when thinking about Lily, Makarov and Mavis. And with Wendy’s potential she was managing to overpower even Erza.

 

[grey matter]

But if someone like Haku who is Suzaku’s level gets defeated by someone weaker than Irene. It would be a far more difficult fight than just one shot.

Haku is fodder with hax, much like some of the Spriggans. Defeating him after hard countering his hax and him holding back on top of it cause of a crush isn't really hard.