Chapter Tower of God Chapter 572 Spoilers & Discussion

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I agree with you talking about the big picture, not so much in regards to Rei/Baam. I think Rei has effectively 100% checkmated him. But, i agree in saying it's a very risky move because i wouldn't be surprised to see Gustang/Hwaryun/Luslec waiting at the other side of the portal, if the BH's can't get to Baam, he has effectively lost. But i repeat, the plan of using Baam in the war from Rei had basically 0% chances of success rate from the beginning, now he just might get him to cooperate on the basis of a fair bet Khun placed for him.
Ah, I see. Well, I don't think it will play out like he wants, so it's kind of moot. If we start with the conclusion - that Baam won't be a plaything for Rei - then the risk he took backfired in retrospect. That's how I see things going.

In any event, apparently a marriage is enough to force Baam's hand, because Baam for some reason thinks marriages are "unbreakable"





Rei is in a greater predicament with Baam anyways, whether he realizes it or not. If Rei wants a Baam strong enough to take on another FH, then that means Baam must have both the power to do that and the balls. If Baam had both of those in the first place, he'd simply defy Rei. It's kind of Catch-22.
 

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Baam and Rei had an agreement, participate in the competition, stay in the hotel until the lights turn on at that stage. If Baam leaves the hotel he is eliminated unless Khun striked a new deal with Rei or he manages to escape for good.
Traumerei himself says that with AA's bet or not, he was going to capture Baam.

He never cared about this arrangement from the start.

He just wanted to play.
 

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that makes zero sense. why would you create a team specifically to kill FH and Zahard without any slayers in it?
1st off Luslec started FUG and was the 1st slayer LOL. Genesis was long over when HG decided to sneak into Jahad’s bedroom!
And it’s not like they would of succeeded with or without a slayer LOL!!!

You may of missed it but it was explained that there were several groups back then that FUG trained to competence
 

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Rei is in a greater predicament with Baam anyways, whether he realizes it or not. If Rei wants a Baam strong enough to take on another FH, then that means Baam must have both the power to do that and the balls. If Baam had both of those in the first place, he'd simply defy Rei. It's kind of Catch-22.
I think this from the beginning.

If he wants to use Baam, it means the guy has to become as strong as he or Gustang, even if Baam got married and had kids and Rei managed to create 1564546545 hostages, in the end, which would stop someone from cracking and just turning the fuck on up and cause a riot?

I prefer to believe that he's a V simp and he's been doing it on purpose all this time, because it's always been a reasoning that doesn't enter my head.
 

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We don't know proto-FUG had set up Slayers before adding Hidden Grove.

We do know that there were first gen Slayers and that Genesis was very long.
Luslec who started FUG would like a word LOL.
 

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Luslec who started FUG would like a word LOL.
When did Luslec start the Slayer system inside of FUG?

Why wasn't Cha offered a Slayer position way, way back?

Why didn't we hear anything about Khel becoming a Slayer, or anyone else from Hidden Garden, or even an offer?




Yeah.
 

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USA wouldn't need to attack Russia. Just need to outspend them like in the Cold War and they eventually would break. Besides, the US is already fighting Russia through the Ukrainians as proxy. Just like Afghanistan.
Feds are here
 

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1st off Luslec started FUG and was the 1st slayer LOL. Genesis was long over when HG decided to sneak into Jahad’s bedroom!
And it’s not like they would of succeeded with or without a slayer LOL!!!
Just because he is the "1st Slayer" doesn't mean he created the Slayer system before Hidden Grove. It is quite possible that he created it AFTER hidden groves defeat.
 

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Just because he is the "1st Slayer" doesn't mean he created the Slayer system before Hidden Grove. It is quite possible that he created it AFTER hidden groves defeat.
Lol HG is not FUG, FUG trained them during Genesis. FUG was a power before HG.
 

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Traumerei himself says that with AA's bet or not, he was going to capture Baam.

He never cared about this arrangement from the start.

He just wanted to play.
Sure, he wants to play, but he knows that either he finds a way to use Baam in the war or he will have to kill him, when it comes to Irregular-Irregular deals he seems to care at least. Maybe he will "use" Baam as a chess piece for whatever Lobadon is doing, maybe he never really cared about making him part of the Family in the first place, it's too early to tell.
 

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When did Luslec start the Slayer system inside of FUG?

Why wasn't Cha offered a Slayer position way, way back?

Why didn't we hear anything about Khel becoming a Slayer, or anyone else from Hidden Garden, or even an offer?




Yeah.
Lol because chi has no special abilities lol!
 

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Ah, I see. Well, I don't think it will play out like he wants, so it's kind of moot. If we start with the conclusion - that Baam won't be a plaything for Rei - then the risk he took backfired in retrospect. That's how I see things going.

In any event, apparently a marriage is enough to force Baam's hand, because Baam for some reason thinks marriages are "unbreakable"





Rei is in a greater predicament with Baam anyways, whether he realizes it or not. If Rei wants a Baam strong enough to take on another FH, then that means Baam must have both the power to do that and the balls. If Baam had both of those in the first place, he'd simply defy Rei. It's kind of Catch-22.
Could be, but then again Baam was the plaything of FUG for hundreds of chapters wasn't he? That seemed to work out pretty ok for them.

Not that I think Rei will ultimately "win" this but I feel like SIU can't have Baam fight his way out of this one really. Rei is so overwhelming strong that it's almost hard for him to find a way to lose here when Baam doesn't play by the rules. Sure he let him go through the portal. But unless he teleported to another floor Rei might be able to teleport himself there like Urek was shown doing if he felt the need to. Plus he's got Khun now.

He's pretty relaxed at the moment. But if he gets pissed off, that's going to get ugly in hurry.
 

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Could be, but then again Baam was the plaything of FUG for hundreds of chapters wasn't he? That seemed to work out pretty ok for them.

Not that I think Rei will ultimately "win" this but I feel like SIU can't have Baam fight his way out of this one really. Rei is so overwhelming strong that it's almost hard for him to find a way to lose here when Baam doesn't play by the rules. Sure he let him go through the portal. But unless he teleported to another floor Rei might be able to teleport himself there like Urek was shown doing if he felt the need to. Plus he's got Khun now.

He's pretty relaxed at the moment. But if he gets pissed off, that's going to get ugly in hurry.
OK, play that out. Rei wins, Baam is his play thing... and then what?

The entire trajectory of the story is Baam vs Zahard/his parents' murderer/the Tower tyrant/false pretense empire/etc - that aligns with FUG whether the latter forced him (very early on I might add). Baam is content with FUG. He's against Rei controlling him now that he has some level of agency, and that FUG has gone from puppetmasters to compatriots. Baam has no reason to fight Rei's battles, and every reason to fight FUGs.
 

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the key to know who Traumerei is to re-read

Haratcha
Kendryck
Satcha

flashbacks, that’s the life of Traumerei and how he got that mindset.

And think about this
Cha destroyed Kendryck, one shot.. tha means Cha have more than one third of the 100% of Traumerei Raw power
Just that put Cha in the top 50 with khell hellam.

Think about this Kell hellam was afraid they free Cha
Here we have him explaining to his superior the situation chapter 51 season 3.

This pure greatness if you ask me!
 

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Could be, but then again Baam was the plaything of FUG for hundreds of chapters wasn't he? That seemed to work out pretty ok for them.

Not that I think Rei will ultimately "win" this but I feel like SIU can't have Baam fight his way out of this one really. Rei is so overwhelming strong that it's almost hard for him to find a way to lose here when Baam doesn't play by the rules. Sure he let him go through the portal. But unless he teleported to another floor Rei might be able to teleport himself there like Urek was shown doing if he felt the need to. Plus he's got Khun now.

He's pretty relaxed at the moment. But if he gets pissed off, that's going to get ugly in hurry.
I don't think Traum can actually get pissed off. I think Leviathan is not only Rei's Memories but a manifestation of his emotions, the strongest of which is his anger towards himself for w/e shady shit he did to V and Arlene. I think that is why he is how he is. Baam can certainly fight his way out especially since he has the knowledge that Levi told him in his stomach world(yeah I am calling it that from now on) and if Rei were to show up himself(probably after Baam face rolls those 2 BHs) Baam wil then unleash the beast so to speak.
 

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Could have sworn Dowon and Karaka had a dialogue on former slayers in her time and how selfishly ruthless they were!
 

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Lol because chi has no special abilities lol!
Right, right. And Khel?

So, let me get this straight, Cha was one of the defacto strongest leaders of the defacto strongest guerilla fighting group - so strong that Zahard had to make sure he was put on ice - and someone that FUG specifically sought out, but he wasn't special enough to even be a Slayer candidate? Got it, got it.

The same Cha that's just as strong now as then, and is basically being offered a seat at the table by Jinsung.

Sure, buddy!
 

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But yah let’s pretend we forgot LOL
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

‘sLaYeRs DiD nOt ExIsT bEfOrE hG’ LMFAO
 

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Cha is a warlord
DD of the people who create the tower
Is possible that he can control even a Admin.
 
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