Fantasy Mirajane vs Laxus

[Plutogrim]

So are you saying current Mirajane is weaker than the Spriggans because Tartaros Laxus wasn’t even god of Ishgar teir during that time

By feats yes.

 

[Ratrace]

By feats yes.

what feat? Him easily beating Tempester

 

[AmitDS]

Mirajane seduces Laxus and low diffs him.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Laxus claps. Won't even need Red Lightning.

Mirajane outright admitted that she can't defeat Skullion while Laxus destroyed him with basic attacks.

 

[Darklord#10]

If he indeed was using full force, he would've killed everyone there effortlessly. His instinct directed his powers only against ships and no one else. If you're gonna tell me that Erza can move an Acno who's actually resisting with full force, I don't know what to say lmao.

I don't understand why Erza fanboys be trying to gas this feat up. It's common sense. If acnologia isn't exerting force he can be moved lol didn't Makarov carry him back in tenrou island or something. Come to think of it dragons may actually be not very heavy. Natsu was throwing off dragons back in GMG, he merked motherglare from the sky, base natsu was able to push back Animus, selene tail sent ignia crashing, igneel's tail did the same thing to acnologia iirc Christina made acnologia writhe in pain lmao he was screaming jellal was also able to push acnologia. You just need the right amount of physical strength to pull it off.

 

[AmitDS]

Mashima isn't writing Mirajane being low or mid diffed by Laxus bar her being low on power or deciding to give up or something.

 

[Darklord#10]

Mashima isn't writing Mirajane being low or mid diffed by Laxus bar her being low on power or deciding to give up or something.

Lol who cares about how mashima's going to write it? We can use feats to judge.

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Laxus can stomp skullion and madmolle together. He will do the same thing to Mira.

 

[AmitDS]

Lol who cares about how mashima's going to write it? We can use feats to judge.

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Laxus can stomp skullion and madmolle together. He will do the same thing to Mira.

Speaking of feats, Mira's 2nd weakest form stomps her BSS which is skullion tier so yeah Laxus isn't low diffing her even stronger forms. Who cares what Mashima is going to write? Um he's the author and has made BSS Mira notably stronger than DeS Gray and IDSM Gajeel and that's low diff material for Halphas. So yeah by feats we have no feats of Mirajane in her stronger forms at present to say that Laxus would stomp her.

 

[Axiomus]

Yeah no. Laxus stomps.

A combination of Gray, Skullion, and Madmole outright defeated Mirajane and Elfman. Take that same combination against Laxus, and Laxus stomps them without resorting to red lightning, let alone LDK.

Being generous, you can maybe push for a mid diff. Even with her stronger takeovers, Mirajane exhausts her whole MP supply using Alegria for 1 attack. Laxus tanks one hit, and Mirajane's done.

 

[Darklord#10]

Speaking of feats, Mira's 2nd weakest form stomps her BSS which is skullion tier so yeah Laxus isn't low diffing her even stronger forms. Who cares what Mashima is going to write? Um he's the author and has made BSS Mira notably stronger than DeS Gray and IDSM Gajeel and that's low diff material for Halphas. So yeah by feats we have no feats of Mirajane in her stronger forms at present to say that Laxus would stomp her.

Mira being stronger than gray and gajeel doesn't matter that much. She's always been stronger than them. Laxus stomped madmolle and skullion together no reason why he won't one shot Mira, especially with his red lightning and his new power up. Only natsu and erza are on around laxus's level right now. Gildarts is still stronger than him but the gap isn't that much. Mira gets her cheeks clapped

 

[Garmadooon]

Considering how the author treats her I don't even think she will push a medium diff. If Mira was really on Erza's level as some people claim she would have beaten Skullion and even tired Gray. It's ridiculous to believe that she's at the S-class level when they reached BDSK level and we know every one of them would one shot Mira. Anyway even in the OG FT Luxus series was 100x stronger than her.

 

[AmitDS]

Mira being stronger than gray and gajeel doesn't matter that much. She's always been stronger than them. Laxus stomped madmolle and skullion together no reason why he won't one shot Mira, especially with his red lightning and his new power up. Only natsu and erza are on around laxus's level right now. Gildarts is still stronger than him but the gap isn't that much. Mira gets her cheeks clapped

Mirajane's weakest form BSS was low diffed by her second weakest Halphas so why would I base Mira vs Laxus off of BSS? And her BSS vs Skullion did better than Erza with Benizakura vs Kyria. So at her lowest she was comparable or better than flame pants Erza and Benizakura in 100 years quest.

So really there is no evidence of Mirajane being low diffed by Laxus in her higher forms. And as I said authorial intent, Mashima isnt letting Mirajane be low diffed by Laxus or Erza.

 

[Darklord#10]

Mirajane's weakest form BSS was low diffed by her second weakest Halphas so why would I base Mira vs Laxus off of BSS? And her BSS vs Skullion did better than Erza with Benizakura vs Kyria. So at her lowest she was comparable or better than flame pants Erza and Benizakura in 100 years quest.

So really there is no evidence of Mirajane being low diffed by Laxus in her higher forms. And as I said authorial intent, Mashima isnt letting Mirajane be low diffed by Laxus or Erza.

Laxus>kirin>>>>>skullion=Mira. I don't care what mashima writes. It doesn't matter to me. What I know is that Mira is nowhere near bdsk level. I don't see how any of Mira's form would stack up to a guy who was compared to gildarts (me believing this or not doesn't matter) kirin low diffs Mira. Current power up laxus one shots Mira. Bss Mira being stronger than gray and gajeel isn't that impressive, gray and gajeel are fodders that has already been established in this sequel

 

[Axiomus]

Mirajane's weakest form BSS was low diffed by her second weakest Halphas so why would I base Mira vs Laxus off of BSS? And her BSS vs Skullion did better than Erza with Benizakura vs Kyria. So at her lowest she was comparable or better than flame pants Erza and Benizakura in 100 years quest.

So really there is no evidence of Mirajane being low diffed by Laxus in her higher forms. And as I said authorial intent, Mashima isnt letting Mirajane be low diffed by Laxus or Erza.

Erza with Benisakura completely dominated Kyria. It's flat out better than what Mirajane did to Skullion.

 

[AmitDS]

Laxus>kirin>>>>>skullion=Mira. I don't care what mashima writes. It doesn't matter to me. What I know is that Mira is nowhere near bdsk level. I don't see how any of Mira's form would stack up to a guy who was compared to gildarts (me believing this or not doesn't matter) kirin low diffs Mira. Current power up laxus one shots Mira. Bss Mira being stronger than gray and gajeel isn't that impressive, gray and gajeel are fodders that has already been established in this sequel

Skullion tied with BSS Mirajane. There is a clear difference between BSS Mirajane and her other forms. Halphas, her second weakest form, low diffed BSS which tied with Skullion on their first encounter so no there is no canon support to Laxus low diffing Mirajane with a one shot.

Again, BSS Mirajane is her weakest form and low diff material for her other forms and this form can low diff Gray or Gajeel at their best so no, using BSS Mirajane vs Skullion to say that Mirajane in general would be one shot by Laxus has no backing in canon. Funny how all of a sudden Gray and Gajeel are so weak

Furthermore as I said, Erza with Benizakura did worse than BSS Mirajane vs her DE and she was shocked and amazed to see Kyria defeated by Laxus and then went on to draw with him so using BSS Mirajane vs Skullion to say without a shadow of a doubt that Mirajane at her best is low diff material for Laxus wouldn't make much sense. The precedent doesn't support it i.e. flame pants Erza + benizakura vs Kyria and BSS vs Skullion. And Mira doesn't have to be equal to Erza for this to be true.

Mashima already had Laxus warn Jellal about Mirajane and Natsu wank all 3 as the strongest who would be in the middle so it's unlikely that Laxus would then be capable of one shotting and low diffing Mirajane in her best forms.

Erza with Benisakura completely dominated Kyria. It's flat out better than what Mirajane did to Skullion.

No, Kyria broke Benizakura and Erza used one of her newer enchantments. Mira tied with Skullion off panel in her weakest form with no new shown powers.

 

[Axiomus]

No, Kyria broke Benizakura and Erza used one of her newer enchantments. Mira tied with Skullion off panel in her weakest form with no new shown powers.

That's still benisakura. But alright. Let's just say the enchantment doesnt count as benisakira. Swap Kyria for Gray right after Kyria breaks Erza's sword, what happens?

Mirajane lost to Gray right after that. Laxus low diffed Kyria in base and then beat Erza. He also no diffed Skullion and Madmole before facing Kirin.

 

[AmitDS]

That's still benisakura. But alright. Let's just say the enchantment doesnt count as benisakira. Swap Kyria for Gray right after Kyria breaks Erza's sword, what happens? [

Mirajane lost to Gray right after that. Laxus low diffed Kyria in base and then beat Erza. He also no diffed Skullion and Madmole before facing Kirin.

Why are we being pedantic? That was Belserion. Kyria broke Benizakura and Erza used Belserion. Kyria even remarked "What sword is that?" when Erza used her enchantment.

The point is, and you all know it, that one of Erza's best forms performed arguably worse than BSS Mirajane. I saw worse, since Skullion seems to be stronger than Kyria and Madmole who tied with Elfman and lost to Lucy while Skullion low diffed DeS Gray and tied with BSS.

Bringing up Erza's newer powers is irrelevant to a convo about Erza with the original benizakura and BSS Mirajane. BSS Mirajane who is low diff material for Halphas is at least equal to the strongest dragon eater outside of the BDSK and their master. Laxus, who we don't know whether he one shot Skullion or not, is not low diffing Mirajane at her best and certainly not one shotting her.

And we all know portrayal and even feats don't support Laxus low diffing or one shotting Mirajane.

 

[Axiomus]

Why are we being pedantic? That was Belserion. Kyria broke Benizakura and Erza used Belserion. Kyria even remarked "What sword is that?" when Erza used her enchantment.

The point is, and you all know it, that one of Erza's best forms performed arguably worse than BSS Mirajane. I saw worse, since Skullion seems to be stronger than Kyria and Madmole who tied with Elfman and lost to Lucy while Skullion low diffed DeS Gray and tied with BSS.

Bringing up Erza's newer powers is irrelevant to a convo about Erza with the original benizakura and BSS Mirajane. BSS Mirajane who is low diff material for Halphas is at least equal to the strongest dragon eater outside of the BDSK and their master. Laxus, who we don't know whether he one shot Skullion or not, is not low diffing Mirajane at her best and certainly not one shotting her.

And we all know portrayal and even feats don't support Laxus low diffing or one shotting Mirajane.

Belserion is literally just an enchanted benisakura sword. Kyria broke the blade, but the magic Wendy put into it was still there...so Erza beat her up with that. Benisakura isnt one sword btw. Erza has a bunch of them. We've seen Minerva break one with a kick in Tartaros, only for Erza to whip out two more to beat up Kyouka in the same day.

How did Erza do worse? Erza could probably throw her sword away and kick Kyria into submission if she wanted to. Mirajane was heavily injured according to Gray after fighting Madmole and Skullion. Erza would destroy Gray if she fought him right after Kyria.

Moreover, this is Laxus vs Mirajane. Laxus stomped Madmole and Skullion in the same amount of time it took Haku to make Natsu and Lucy into dolls. It's honestly not even close.

 

[Ratrace]

Laxus stomped Madmole and Skullion in the same amount of time it took Haku to make Natsu and Lucy into dolls. It's honestly not even close.

He might have but we only saw the aftermath not the whole fight also Hiro mostly doesn’t focus on fights that don’t matter to him

 

[AmitDS]

Belserion is literally just an enchanted benisakura sword. Kyria broke the blade, but the magic Wendy put into it was still there...so Erza beat her up with that. Benisakura isnt one sword btw. Erza has a bunch of them. We've seen Minerva break one with a kick in Tartaros, only for Erza to whip out two more to beat up Kyouka in the same day.

It is called a new sword in the manga with a new name i.e. BELSERION. Erza with benizakura was clashing equally with Kyria before Kyria broke it. Skullion who is stronger than Kyria was clashing equally with BSS Mirajane.

How did Erza do worse? Erza could probably throw her sword away and kick Kyria into submission if she wanted to. Mirajane was heavily injured according to Gray after fighting Madmole and Skullion. Erza would destroy Gray if she fought him right after Kyria.

Erza with Benizakura did worse because Kyria is weaker than Skullion, she broke Benizakura so Erza had to use Belserion in their second encounter while BSS Mirajane tied with Skullion on her first encounter.

Moreover, this is Laxus vs Mirajane. Laxus stomped Madmole and Skullion in the same amount of time it took Haku to make Natsu and Lucy into dolls. It's honestly not even close.

Moreover the Mirajane that tied with Skullion is low diff material for other forms so Laxus low diffing BSS would not prove he would low diff her strongest form.