Games Mafia Game 113 - Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - GAME END

[SirSamuel016]

GAME END


Within one swift night, the world's deadlock was broken. Moebius lost full control of the world, and the Endless now came to an end.

But, the new world that would be created would not be a return to what should have been in the truest sense. No, just one individual outsmarted all and gained the strength to reforge the world to his own desires.





RISE NOW, WINNER OF MAFIA GAME #113!

HARDY
SANTA CLAUS






Parties lost to the endless now...

Town

Farfalla
Psychiatrist // Ouroboros

GB
Townie // Ouroboros

Tatsumaki
Townie // Ouroboros

Baka Taichou
Townie


Mafia

Jammin
Mafia Boss



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There are a few thank yous I want to make before I head off to bed because HOLY FUCK it is late.

Firstly, to my wonderful co-host and friend @Lambu for helping me build this game that I'm incredibly proud of. We put a lot of time into it, and I'm thrilled with how it turned out. It wouldn't of been anything like this without your expertise and input so thank you for joining me on creating this!

Secondly, thank you to @Marmalade! You nailed the aesthetic with the avatars and this game wouldn't of looked anywhere near as nice as it did without all your hard work! Thank you for helping me reach my creative vision!

Thirdly, I'd like to give a thank you to @Copy Panda! Not only was the furry fella our substitute in case he was needed, but in the early days of idea brewing late last year, I had the idea of adapting The Devil from the Chainsaw Man game I got to co-host with him and tweaking it for a new setting. He gave me his blessing and was another pivotal point of feedback for game construction so thank you my friend

Fourthly, this game nearly had a completely different set-up due to player numbers, but in the face of adversity some incredible people stepped up to fill the plate- Bel, Jammin, Kat: thank you for helping us reach the number of players we needed for the game to run as we envisioned, and for your crucial parts that you played!

Finally, thank you to all the players! I'm so glad you all joined us for this game. I love the Xenoblade series and I had a wonderful time creating the game with Lambu, as well as hosting it! Thank you to all who made it possible, and on one last note: CONGRATULATIONS HARDY!!!


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[Brandish μ]

What post is this referring to or this just general sentiment? I don‘t share Farf‘s sentiment of Lover shenanigans atm so we should be doing fine if last night‘s kill was prevented.

If you wanna be a helpful townie, who would you lynch next Day, like 1/2 names don‘t just give a bunch of names.

Next day you'll have Jammin - assuming you believe Belserion. That is a bird in hand that doesn't require believing me or GB - noting that we are generally considered untrustworthy in many games.

But if you want 1 or 2 - pick your fave from digitaldude or Farfalla.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

Elaborate. What was the smart play, was I supposed to think you‘re the second town Det?

If you're town being so 'certain' on reflection will look like you are coercing by force and as a result you'll be lynched/blamed etc etc

 

[GrySun]

Next day you'll have Jammin - assuming you believe Belserion. That is a bird in hand that doesn't require believing me or GB - noting that we are generally considered untrustworthy in many games.

But if you want 1 or 2 - pick your fave from digitaldude or Farfalla.

It‘s less about believing Bel for me and more about believing if her Spy is Sane or not, but we‘ll have to find that out.

Your fave between DD and Farf is DD right? Did you mention why?

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

If you're town being so 'certain' on reflection will look like you are coercing by force and as a result you'll be lynched/blamed etc etc

Need to put my leg down somewhere. I‘ve been trolled before by mafias playing it serious til the end so can only stand with my choice and not second guess it post-lock, but I understand what you mean. I don‘t have much else to say til next day so should probably not spam.

 

[Belserion]

@Baka Taichou i can't quote right now and still back reading, but I'm not lying about my results. The only question was raised by Gry and that's my spy sanity. My result said Jammin targeted Erin the night she died then I blocked him the next day because of it. His convenient doctor claim means he wouldn't know if his "protection" was successful hence disregarding my block. This is why I kept tagging him to reveal or at least say if his role usage was successful because I didn't want him to use my results to tailor his claim. But of course he evaded all attempts and ended up doing just that. I may be tunnel visioning him right now but I don't see what all the secretiveness was about if doctor was his actual role. The way he was all "I could reveal but should I?" as if he was sitting on some great reveal isn't consistent with his claim imo.

 

[Brandish μ]

It‘s less about believing Bel for me and more about believing if her Spy is Sane or not, but we‘ll have to find that out.

Your fave between DD and Farf is DD right? Did you mention why?

Okay.

Because I struggle to see Farf being mafia. She would need to have used mafia det on Demonspeed or something. If this is true we're pretty much done for, and kudos. digitaldude is simpler. It's lazy but I'd need a good reason to flip that.

 

[Kat]

@Farfalla out of Brandish and Jammin, Glimmer wonders, which one are you thinking is safer for us to lynch today?


Brandish (Claims Detective)
Action:
Night 1 - DD Innocent
Night 2 - Farfalla Guilty

GB claims blocking Brandish on Night 2 but got results on Night 2.

1. Brandish is lying about being Detective in which case he got blocked Night 2 = no kill night 2
2. GB is lying
3. Mafia blocked GB who blocked Brandish = Brandish has results on N2

Jammin (Claims Doctor)
Action:
Night 1 - Kat
Night 2- Farfalla

Bel claims Jammin targeted Erin Night 1 (Erin died that night). Bel blocked Jammin Night 2 and there was no kill.

1. Jammin is lying about being doctor and he is a scum who killed Erin, in which case he got blocked Night 2 = 2 no kill night 2
2. Bel is lying
3. If Mafia blocked Bel night 2, there is no way of knowing since there would be no response to her blocking either way

Glimmer thinks both are being yikes, but she wants to know which one is being less risky to go for today.

 

[Brandish μ]

@Lambu @SirSamuel016 are you able to tell us what variety of Spy and Doctor are associated with the ouroboros mechanic?

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

@Lambu @SirSamuel016 are you able to tell us what variety of Spy and Doctor are associated with the ouroboros mechanic?

Nevermind, let the OP stand. Apologies

 

[Hardy]

@Baka Taichou i can't quote right now and still back reading, but I'm not lying about my results. The only question was raised by Gry and that's my spy sanity. My result said Jammin targeted Erin the night she died then I blocked him the next day because of it. His convenient doctor claim means he wouldn't know if his "protection" was successful hence disregarding my block. This is why I kept tagging him to reveal or at least say if his role usage was successful because I didn't want him to use my results to tailor his claim. But of course he evaded all attempts and ended up doing just that. I may be tunnel visioning him right now but I don't see what all the secretiveness was about if doctor was his actual role. The way he was all "I could reveal but should I?" as if he was sitting on some great reveal isn't consistent with his claim imo.

On the same vein as Kat not trusting Gry's "it should be easy to use my role", Jammin claimed "this role seems fun to use" and doctor is just... PMing a name and hoping it doesn't die. Absurdly fun.

He did post his jokes I guess.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

!votelock Brandish should confirm me as our sole Det.

...how?

 

[SirSamuel016]

3 HOURS REMAIN


Players yet to vote: @Jammin @Tatsumaki​

 

[Farfalla]

@Farfalla out of Brandish and Jammin, Glimmer wonders, which one are you thinking is safer for us to lynch today?


Brandish (Claims Detective)
Action:
Night 1 - DD Innocent
Night 2 - Farfalla Guilty

GB claims blocking Brandish on Night 2 but got results on Night 2.

1. Brandish is lying about being Detective in which case he got blocked Night 2 = no kill night 2
2. GB is lying
3. Mafia blocked GB who blocked Brandish = Brandish has results on N2

Jammin (Claims Doctor)
Action:
Night 1 - Kat
Night 2- Farfalla

Bel claims Jammin targeted Erin Night 1 (Erin died that night). Bel blocked Jammin Night 2 and there was no kill.

1. Jammin is lying about being doctor and he is a scum who killed Erin, in which case he got blocked Night 2 = 2 no kill night 2
2. Bel is lying
3. If Mafia blocked Bel night 2, there is no way of knowing since there would be no response to her blocking either way

Glimmer thinks both are being yikes, but she wants to know which one is being less risky to go for today.

Hm, I think it doesn't matter a lot if we go with Bran or Jamz.

Again, I believe in both Misho and Bel. Misho said very early he was surprised that mafia didn't pick you up as freeman so I expected he'd say he protected you. I see nothing antitown in him and Misho has always talked in Misho ways game after game so I have lil problem with what people call evasion - Bran and Jamz have done that way more. I also don't believe that Bel' Spy isn't sane - prolly cause I also don't believe we have dets. But also cause it's just so troll... it's like we prolly just have 2 Spy usages in game with the CD, possibly more later on but that's only possibly. Putting a sanity that would sabotage us doesn't seem to serve the game comp at all and from a design POV I don't belive in that.

Having those beliefs as a guideline, then Jamz shouldn't have an Ouro, 'cause he performed Mafia's first kill and I don't think a mafia Ouro wouldn't be used on D1 considering it would undergo a for that action right after and the game ain't that long. I guess it's more optimal to try to lynch a mafia that has an/the Ouro, so Bran could be a better bet in that sense (tho I still suspect that Hardy mafia/lover/ouro thing I've mentioned). Bran also directly challenged GB as a liar, but interestingly enough, a legit Bran can't tell if it's me or DD that is scum - still, he prefers to "gamble" and lynch DD than lynching GB that he'd be certain to be a liar. Since Bran's scum, that makes total sense - DD dying as townie allows him to say "oops, it's Farfalla then" while GB dying as town is a bullet to his head.

Ok all this to say maybe Bran's a better pick 'cause it seems that Jamz doesn't have an Ouro, but imo it doesn't matter a lot.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

@SirSamuel016 @Lambu sorry if you've said that already, but if a mafia gets lynched with an Ouro and passes it to a teammate, do the CDs reset?

 

[SirSamuel016]

@SirSamuel016 @Lambu sorry if you've said that already, but if a mafia gets lynched with an Ouro and passes it to a teammate, do the CDs reset?

No, the cooldowns are inherited with the role as part of its existing history in the game.

 

[Hardy]

I had assumed ouroboros reset or otw townies need to guess which ability they have available. Welp.

 

[Farfalla]

@Lambu @SirSamuel016 are you able to tell us what variety of Spy and Doctor are associated with the ouroboros mechanic?

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 25, 2023 ---

Nevermind, let the OP stand. Apologies

And what did you find there? Cause I couldn't find the answer in the OP.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023 ---

No, the cooldowns are inherited with the role as part of its existing history in the game.

So great, no drawback in lynching a mafia with an Ouro. Just extra value cause it will take them 1 turn to pass the Ouro to a teammate.

 

[GrySun]

...how?

Assuming he flips mafia. Unless you think I‘d contest Det as Mafia if a teammate used it or if Santa

 

[Hardy]

Assuming he flips mafia. Unless you think I‘d contest Det as Mafia if a teammate used it or if Santa

I would think those are possibilities yes.

 

[Brandish μ]

And what did you find there? Cause I couldn't find the answer in the OP.

Found nothing - same as the OP.

 

[Hardy]

I would trust the sanities.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Votekill Brandish

 

[Jammin]

Hmm. So I guess it's Brandish or me at the point. I can't prove that Bel is lying or misguided or whatever and she was on my trust list so I can't really fault people if they lean that way.

Votelock Jammin

I really don't think your lying but in the interest of self preservation... right back at ya, buddy. Votelkill Brandish.

Whichever of us it is can take solace in the fact that we died like our hero David Carradine.

 

[Brandish μ]

Bran also directly challenged GB as a liar, but interestingly enough, a legit Bran can't tell if it's me or DD that is scum - still, he prefers to "gamble" and lynch DD than lynching GB that he'd be certain to be a liar.

You're omitting numerous posts where I state that determing you mafia is a tall order.

You're also ignoring numerous posts from me at GB confronting his lie. Remember when I asked about Doc or Spy? You quoted me.

GB has lied as town numerous times to implicate a hunch or be bait, too.

 

[Baka Taichou]

You quoted my post a lot but are still missing that GB blocking Brandish could also be a reason we got no kill, thought that‘s why you even voted Brandish initially? Maybe you‘re confused by him stating he wasn‘t blocked, but from his posts it‘s clear he hoped to cause some DD vs Farf mislynch damage.

As for Farf, I thought she could be Ouroboros but DD disproved it. And main role M. Det, it is possible but unlikely? We can‘t know what the hosts were thinking until postgame, but getting rid of fake Det Brandish should bring us in the right direction for the rest of the scums. Wouldn‘t go for Farf unless we‘re scraping the bottom of the barrel/are done with all scums and only „confirmed“ people are left. Traitors/Lovers will reopen everyone for suspecting if it gets to that with missing kills anyway.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 25, 2023 ---

I played Det countless times by now, the role likes me. Pretty much always did well with it too. Call it arrogance if you will, but I quickly ate those words later on D1 when I noticed all the vanillas I think I made a post saying how it‘s very inconvenient for me, was thinking of having to navigate Millers.

yea I missed that part about lawl blocking brand in my post think i mentioned it after