Games Mafia Game 116 - Ghiblification - End Game

[Marmalade]

Night Actions

Here are this game's night actions! Players are sorted by the order they die as usual.

Spoiler: Night Actions

This game was largely designed around trialling the new Serial Killer as well as trying out a new role, the Clown. Despite being solo parties, we thought it would be interesting to see if the comp itself rather than specific roles could aid and hamper these two parties. There was a faux mafia party in three death millers, as well as a freeman that the two non-towns could hide behind. We deemed this little core of semi-pro-towns necessary for the single SK to hide behind + create some competition for the Clown in terms of sus candidates. Police Officer is there to catch the criminal serial killer (only the workday of the cop ends around dinner while the serial killer prowls around at midnight ).

We thought the standard core of Doc, Det and Prost complemented by Cowboy would be sufficient for the town to win with, aside from their numerical superiority. Troublemaker is a double-edged sword involved for everybody. NVD and Bomb are passed along town and can completely debilitate any of the TP's; especially the Bomb could have coldly ended the careers of either one of them. The strongest asset Town had was their numbers; SK would have to survive 4~5 phases whereas Clown has to inversely fight impatience while getting lynched early. If not, the town has enough bodies to throw at the Clown timer.

Overall, maybe aside the PO, we thought the comp was relatively balanced; it was also pretty close. The Clown almost died D1 but then deflated around D5. DD was on the chopping block the whole game, and could have still died rather easily had the last vote been unplaced or just stacked on Faust. Very entertaining! Hope to see all of you guys next game again.​

 

[Faust]

Finally we can lynch Sam and serve justice for Erin and James?

 

[GrySun]

I think he‘s clown and wouldn‘t lynch him, if we can afford that, but I won‘t stand for more Sam believing with all these mistakes.

 

[Holt]

Hermit was also quite suspected so it’s strange that he would be picked for the kill too…

 

[GrySun]

Finally we can lynch Sam and serve justice for Erin and James?

Erin would‘ve been a hero Day 1. She was robbed.

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Maybe we should just lynch Sam and let the clownshow end. At least mafia also looses then.

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@Tatsumaki we need you

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@Asako you too, more heads

 

[wojak]

Erin would‘ve been a hero Day 1. She was robbed.

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Maybe we should just lynch Sam and let the clownshow end. At least mafia also looses then.

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@Tatsumaki we need you

Why don't you want Farfalla dead?

 

[Holt]

@SirSamuel016 what do you make of the clown accusations? And can you also account for a bystander town pov in your thoughts too?

 

[wojak]

with all the info now, what do you think she is?

 

[Farfalla]

I mean Gry, wear your town shoes and gimme a straight answer: wouldn't you be giving me those faces as scum as well?

Anyway, I'm a low casualty, decent rewards route, so an ok lynch.

I'll be stubborn here and say this is the comp:
1. Baka Taichou as Totoro - Prostitute
2. Tatsumaki as Nausicä - Clown
3. Erinyes as Kiki - Cowboy
4. GrySun as No Face - Mafia Det
5. Wojak as Chihiro - Det
6. Holt as The Baron - TM
7. SirSamuel16 as Marco - Spy
8. Asachi as Ponyo - Vanilla
9. Faust as Markl - PO (tho still wtf)
10. Brandish as Marnie - Doctor
11. DigitalDude as Seita - Mafia Pirate
12. James Rye as Sheeta - Doctor
13. Farfalla as San - Vanilla
14. Hermit as Arriety - Mafia Member

Still think there could be a traitor, but I want my e-points on that later @Copy Panda

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Funny, Faust and his role add a total of nothing to the game, so odd @.@

 

[wojak]

Farf seems to be more on Sams side than Gry so maybe they’re not together?

Farfalla would not take a teammate down with her. Neither would Gry or even Sam.

they are good players

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Sam- Claims same spy. Very messy reveal but “caught”(?) Hermit yesterday. Implicates Gry today. Initially thought he might be scum and there’s a M.Det who knew Hermit but I double checked and even they wouldn’t know that. That pretty much eliminates Sam as a scum imo. That means he’s either Clown or Town. As Clown, it’s almost beyond belief that he would indeed find Hermit luckily. Very low odds I think? As town it’s equally hard he spotted back to back kills. Of the two, I guess the Town aspect is looking more likely to be true? Still there are just too many inconsistencies and it’s really rubbing me off the wrong way

I basically agree with this on Sam

 

[GrySun]

DD- Doesn’t seem to be clownish at least with how eager he seemed to not want to get lynched yesterday. Claims to have stolen PO from Faust. Still possible to do this as Scum. At least DD and Faust shouldn’t be scum together? And if Faust were clown, DD would’ve died. So indirectly Faust should be cleared more or less.

Correct me if I‘m wrong, but Police Officer gets back no result when using role, not like DD has to be Pirate to pretend he stole a role that was claimed openly.

The Assassin not killing ever while we have a PO in a small game further confuses me.

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Why don't you want Farfalla dead?

I‘m considering it, but don‘t want to jump to conclusions.

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I mean Gry, wear your town shoes and gimme a straight answer: wouldn't you be giving me those faces as scum as well?

Anyway, I'm a low casualty, decent rewards route, so an ok lynch.

I'll be stubborn here and say this is the comp:
1. Baka Taichou as Totoro - Prostitute
2. Tatsumaki as Nausicä - Clown
3. Erinyes as Kiki - Cowboy
4. GrySun as No Face - Mafia Det
5. Wojak as Chihiro - Det
6. Holt as The Baron - TM
7. SirSamuel16 as Marco - Spy
8. Asachi as Ponyo - Vanilla
9. Faust as Markl - PO (tho still wtf)
10. Brandish as Marnie - Doctor
11. DigitalDude as Seita - Mafia Pirate
12. James Rye as Sheeta - Doctor
13. Farfalla as San - Vanilla
14. Hermit as Arriety - Mafia Member

Still think there could be a traitor, but I want my e-points on that later @Copy Panda

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Funny, Faust and his role add a total of nothing to the game, so odd @.@

It‘s not about my faces, it‘s about your refusal to acknowledge Sam‘s lies. And idk why.

 

[wojak]

The Assassin not killing ever while we have a PO in a small game further confuses me.

Maybe they are confusing us liek they did in a previous game with Janitor?

 

[GrySun]

You put Sam as green when you asked him for a timeline and he lied in your face. Unbelievable.

 

[Farfalla]

Correct me if I‘m wrong, but Police Officer gets back no result when using role, not like DD has to be Pirate to pretend he stole a role that was claimed openly.

The Assassin not killing ever while we have a PO in a small game further confuses me.

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I‘m considering it, but don‘t want to jump to conclusions.

Why would the Assassin act if Faust spilled early?
Especially with the assumption that a Doctor died in D1 and another got found in N1?
Way safer to play at night and let the random PO be.
But you have a point, maybe there was never a Pirate and DD's Assassin.
And his tale on "GIMME A NIGHT AND I CAN CONFIRM A ROLE" was to get that info from the Mafia Det before sharing it.

Ok, @Copy Panda review that list from before for my e-points please!

 

[GrySun]

I guess the Town aspect is looking more likely to be true?

Explain how a town keeps lying.

 

[wojak]

Looking at the Faust and DD thing...

Faust looked clownish...but then DD stole PO? How do they work together? They can be scum together? But surely cannot be clown together? If faust was clown, DD would be dead....if DD is town and actually stole....then both are town...

This one is a mess...and howthey have played, does not help at all....

 

[SirSamuel016]

That's the single bit you said that shook my faith in you.

I'm so sorry Farf, I got my timeline incorrect I've asked it multiple times across the MH PM and also a discord DM in attempts for faster communication, my timeline short-sightedly only looked at the official host PM on MH though. The Discord question was asked first before I acted, and then I double-checked via PM later on. I hope that clears it up

 

[Holt]

Correct me if I‘m wrong, but Police Officer gets back no result when using role, not like DD has to be Pirate to pretend he stole a role that was claimed openly.

The Assassin not killing ever while we have a PO in a small game further confuses me.

Not about the claimed PO but about DD claimed pirate turned PO. If DD is lying then he’s scum or clown. If Scum, I think it’s very unlikely Faust is scum with him. So Faust would be Town or Clown. I’m assuming DD would fake M.Pirate and would’ve died on targeting Faust if he was clown but yeah ideally the pirate would rather go for someone more important. Anyway the point is DD claiming to be PO now pretty much rules out Faust as scum. Could still be clown if DD just flat out lied tho

 

[GrySun]

Not about the claimed PO but about DD claimed pirate turned PO. If DD is lying then he’s scum or clown. If Scum, I think it’s very unlikely Faust is scum with him. So Faust would be Town or Clown. I’m assuming DD would fake M.Pirate and would’ve died on targeting Faust if he was clown but yeah ideally the pirate would rather go for someone more important. Anyway the point is DD claiming to be PO now pretty much rules out Faust as scum. Could still be clown if DD just flat out lied tho

And my point is, why must he be Mafia Pirate if scum and not any other mafia role?

 

[SirSamuel016]

@SirSamuel016 what do you make of the clown accusations? And can you also account for a bystander town pov in your thoughts too?

Honestly it makes me feel sad to be honest with how bad I've butchered my communication this game after getting my actions bang-on. I can see why some would come to the conclusion tbh but it's not me. Honestly would've expected Clown to dip and just accrue penalty votes at this point so I've got no clue as to who it is- maybe Faust if DD lied about robbing him?

 

[Holt]

Explain how a town keeps lying.

I was referring to the possibility of clown lucking out on the Mafia killer (or mafia) and Town spy finding back to back killers. I already mentioned that Sam has too many inconsistencies and that’s what holding me back. But also it just feels way too sloppy as a scum. And that could also be a play too but idk. Either, I’ve conceded to holding off on you vs Sam for now