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Night actions and results:



Night 1:
Randomized result for paranoid spy:
Checks Shad - Shad performed action on Juviii (Real Target: Raven ~block~)

Coinflip for Priority 1 on block: Demon blocks Shad (Prio 1) - Shad Blocks Raven (Prio 1) -> Shad wins coinflip and successfully blocks Raven



Night 2:
Insane spy randomized target:
DD performs action on Xadyu
 

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Erin should be safe for now.
Misha is MVP, I'm ready to be carried to victory!
Xad is good today as well, the case where it is a mafia throwing another mafia under the buss is extremely unlikely.
Juviii 'supported' the jinx lynch, it not likely she would throw a teammate under the bus, she could have agreed with switching to raven instead.
And of course in the supporting role Shad.

We can't kill today.
As long as DD uses sicky every night, we have no reason to lynch him, not if there is something better to lynch, plus we need him tonight to use it on erin and he can't be the killer.

Brandish? If we can agree on a lynch we should.

The pray!
Demonspeed, Belserion, Desin24. Raven

2 of are mafia, I'm open to voting any depending on how today discussion goes, but my current bet is on @Raven (I'm open to discussions when you join).

@votekill raven
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I just saw she has a penality vote, what is that for?
I can see a lot of your points. Just about the DD and Erin Combo.

If he targets Erin, nothing happens. Unless we have a sane spy targeting him and confirming that he indeed targets Erin we can't really be sure whether he targeted her or didn't do anything at all.

For now I'm inclined to believe them. Just saying that it needs the Spy confirmation if I am not mistaken.
 

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Yet, she never corrected or acted upon it. Shady.
I don't want to get meta but I will do it once and I will stop.

Brandish getting 4 penality votes and no replacement is sus because they were 2 substitues, a broken mafia team could be hard to substitue, but if not for meta reasons I think we should only lynch base on ingame info, and since he has 0 posts, he is a coin flip.

Raven was suspecious yesterday but I also think it fit her personality to get meta and fight with the game.
So I have very good reasons to suspect her, but not voting isn't the reason.
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Which is still weird, seeing there were a few comments about and towards her about her vote not counting.

Yet, she never corrected or acted upon it. Shady.
Yeah, will need to think more but for this day phase I think it fine.
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I can see a lot of your points. Just about the DD and Erin Combo.

If he targets Erin, nothing happens. Unless we have a sane spy targeting him and confirming that he indeed targets Erin we can't really be sure whether he targeted her or didn't do anything at all.

For now I'm inclined to believe them. Just saying that it needs the Spy confirmation if I am not mistaken.
The last sentence was meant for this.
 

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I don't want to get meta but I will do it once and I will stop.

Brandish getting 4 penality votes and no replacement is sus because they were 2 substitues, a broken mafia team could be hard to substitue, but if not for meta reasons I think we should only lynch base on ingame info, and since he has 0 posts, he is a coin flip.

Raven was suspecious yesterday but I also think it fit her personality to get meta and fight with the game.
So I have very good reasons to suspect her, but not voting isn't the reason.
Meta, what. Why would you go that way to play the game.

Outside activity should have nothing to do with in-game activity.
Though, it's hard to ignore forum activity of a user, while they are ignoring the MG game.
 

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Went for an easy target. Still, you based your vote that she did not hint and left it as is.
After her hinting you could have gone with your initial plan "vote no hinters".
Also why would you go for DD by instinct? When he is one of the hinters and also was as active as Jinx and Raven.

That's my point exactly. Why are you still defending Jinx, who played as low as Raven and never hinted.

It was enough for Day 1 analysis.
People who refused to give any other hints were on the radar, I think the judgment was sound. We went with what we had on hand.

Also, Raven and Jinx did interact and Raven even stayed on the forums, yet did not even properly react to the host informing that she did not vote.
It might be just low mafia play until the plan fits.

If I had to go by no interaction I would go with Shad plan, getting Brandish voted. Which I did not, because why go after an inactive player.
Plus it seems odd to me to have a mafia player start with 4 penalty votes, seeing that as the game is small there might be only 2 mafia left in the game.
Voting Bel is easier than voting one of the three inactive? Me saying I'd pick DD if I were to follow my hunch is more because of what I know about him, not particularly because of his behavior in this game.

Targeting someone who can reply is much more productive than targeting someone who is inactive. It's not defending, I was trying to get people to hint. I am pretty sure that Jinx had already a vote on her too.

Mafia can't plan D1, they can only talk at nights. Raven not voting properly is her loss if Mafia, because had her vote for Erin been counted things would have been completely different.

If I had to go by no interaction I would go with Shad plan, getting Brandish voted. Which I did not, because why go after an inactive player.
Plus it seems odd to me to have a mafia player start with 4 penalty votes, seeing that as the game is small there might be only 2 mafia left in the game.
Isn't it exactly what happened D1 though? Town or not, penalties are the same.

You mean you checked somewhere and you know for a fact I was connected 5 minutes before posting?
No. Your name was simply visible on the thread for a good while before the end of the DP.
 

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Meta, what. Why would you go that way to play the game.
Didn't you hear demon say I joined the thread 5-10 min before my last post which is suspecious? (even tho that the time it takes to read up), I think this complain should be addressed to demon, using mod powers in MG :-_-

Well as I keep saying, I do have in game reasons t

No. Your name was simply visible on the thread for a good while before the end of the DP.
I have that option disabled in my profile, you aren't supposed to see my name in the thread I visit.

Well I never said I was dead, I said I'm playing dota, meaning I'm on the desktop.
You want to see my post as suspecious I don't mind.
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Well as I keep saying, I do have in game reasons t
Well as I keep saying, I do have in game reasons for my vote, not meta info was used in the making of my vote.

Hopefully raven joins and reveals or something.

Dota time, others should talk as well.
 

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Didn't you hear demon say I joined the thread 5-10 min before my last post which is suspecious? (even tho that the time it takes to read up), I think this complain should be addressed to demon, using mod powers in MG :-_-

Well as I keep saying, I do have in game reasons t



I have that option disabled in my profile, you aren't supposed to see my name in the thread I visit.

Well I never said I was dead, I said I'm playing dota, meaning I'm on the desktop.
You want to see my post as suspecious I don't mind.
I see invisible people by default, I just woke up with this power one day. Usually I wouldn't mention this, but your apps to check people's activity are allowed so I don't see the issue in this case at least.

Not doing more because of Dota is different from not doing more while you were here. You didn't have to post right at the end of the DP too.
 

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Not doing more because of Dota is different from not doing more while you were here. You didn't have to post right at the end of the DP too.
I do whatever I want!
 

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Did Demon just get punched by the hosts?

All jokes aside, I can see @Brandish μ here. Probably catching up. Certainly good to get more involvement.

@Raven would nice to hear from you as well. Lots of speculation going on why you didn't vote, wanna clear that up?

Nice meta point @Shad. If I remember correctly though I recently subbed in for mafia and was hit with 4 penalties so likelihood of getting host killed or hindered by penalties does not necessarily imply the importance of the role.
 

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It's passive, for now.


Then you might know more than me, haha. (But yeah, I never had it, 99,9% sure)


I completely forgot locking a vote counts for more in the final tally. I was planning on voting someone else to get a tie vote and hope for the best (before you also voted on her in those final minutes).

And the whole teammate spiel can be said about you as well, now you voted for her and she's gone.
But I guess every theory cuts at both sides of the blade.

Unsure if I know more than you, but I did give in to the madness of the game and created a pretty nifty Excel




Well Xad, it takes two to tango, so for you your theory is as valid as mine is.

I thank you for the further hint.
Tbh, I have been checking active roles, mainly due to you informing us that you need to go over the effects a role has.
I will add it to my tracker.

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mandatory list:
1. Demonspeed - Passive - https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868732
2. Shad - Active - https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868668
3. Raven ?
4. Erinyes - Passive https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868771
-Townie https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5869341
5. Belserion - had the role https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-58693356.
6.digitaldude - active https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868746
-Towny Sickly https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5869332
7. Xadyu - a role he never had https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868767
-Passive
8. AwkwardMisha - Active
9. Juviii - never had the role before https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868895
10. Brandish ?
11. Desin24 Active - https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/mafia-game-117-buffy-the-vampire-slayer.3029035/post-5868733
12. Crescent Jinx - Mafia Detective



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Erin should be safe for now.
Misha is MVP, I'm ready to be carried to victory!
Xad is good today as well, the case where it is a mafia throwing another mafia under the buss is extremely unlikely.
Juviii 'supported' the jinx lynch, it not likely she would throw a teammate under the bus, she could have agreed with switching to raven instead.
And of course in the supporting role Shad.

We can't kill today.
As long as DD uses sicky every night, we have no reason to lynch him, not if there is something better to lynch, plus we need him tonight to use it on erin and he can't be the killer.

Brandish? If we can agree on a lynch we should.

The pray!
Demonspeed, Belserion, Desin24. Raven

2 of are mafia, I'm open to voting any depending on how today discussion goes, but my current bet is on @Raven (I'm open to discussions when you join).

@votekill raven
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I just saw she has a penality vote, what is that for?
DD and Erin are safe also for me for now. If DD can confirm Erin, even better.
Also, it's not out of DD's character to early claim a role.

For now, my top two suspects are Raven and Demon.

Bel until now seems pretty cooperative, from what I am seeing she is hinting at an interesting role, the same as Juvs.
Desin, well, again, also a gray zone for me, I need to keep tabs on how the game develops.


Raven got penalty because she never bolded her vote, so it never was taken into account, although the hosts informed her that she needed to bold it.



Voting Bel is easier than voting one of the three inactive? Me saying I'd pick DD if I were to follow my hunch is more because of what I know about him, not particularly because of his behavior in this game.

Targeting someone who can reply is much more productive than targeting someone who is inactive. It's not defending, I was trying to get people to hint. I am pretty sure that Jinx had already a vote on her too.

Mafia can't plan D1, they can only talk at nights. Raven not voting properly is her loss if Mafia, because had her vote for Erin been counted things would have been completely different.
Again, DD and Bel were as active as Jinx and Raven were.
If I had targeted someone inactive on D1 that would have been Brandish, which seems to be here now.

Still, Bel and DD gave more input. It is not about being active, it's about the information that was given.

So, fo with a player based on 3 lines with hints, because of what you know about him, it's better than players who are playing low on the radar and refusing to cooperate.

Also, you mention you saw Shad, yet you still ignore that Raven was on the forum half of the game and did not properly hint or voted.

Usually, mafia stays low, right? checks the claims and then based on what is already on the table they will try to find a suitable claim.
Both were tagged, and no claims were made by the end of the game.

I am still eager to hear her out.
 

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DD and Erin are safe also for me for now. If DD can confirm Erin, even better.
Dd being sickly doesnt mean hes town, sickly is secondary role that can apply to town or mafia or Tp, tho i tend to think he is town. Also he can only confirm me if he is spied. if not spied you wont know if he tried to sickle me, since nothing would happen.
 

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Dd being sickly doesnt mean hes town, sickly is secondary role that can apply to town or mafia or Tp, tho i tend to think he is town. Also he can only confirm me if he is spied. if not spied you wont know if he tried to sickle me, since nothing would happen.
Then did I read it wrong?
I thought someone mentioned that if there are no mechanics sickly is a main role

Aye, okay, thank you for the information
 

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@AwkwardMisha because of your great work yesterday (re: Jinx, who sadly was asked to leave early) I will provide the following hints for your list:
  • I've never had this role
  • a lot of people like the role
  • it's a passive role
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Brandish getting 4 penality votes and no replacement is sus because they were 2 substitues, a broken mafia team could be hard to substitue, but if not for meta reasons I think we should only lynch base on ingame info, and since he has 0 posts, he is a coin flip.
The reason I didn't get subbed is because during N1 I logged in and informed the hosts I will be active. I agree with subs are sus, so it might be hard to sub a mafia knowing they'll be easier to lynch. That did not occur though so the only fact you have to play with is that I was completely AFK in D1 and I should be able to contribute to 'ingame info' from this point on.
 

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Not sure I believe a vanilla in this small game. But like someone said as long as DD keeps using sickly then his hands are clean I guess. Although with no kills last night there's a possibility he is/was Sleeper considering he claimed an active role and might have been targeted.
 
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