Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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I'm not reading all that because I don't really respect your opinion or give a shit what you're responding honestly. Feel free to post that panel of human Selene though. Otherwise I'm off this ride till next chapter.
That is your thoughts then, so just move on, you feel free to post that panel of Dog Dude then while there is Ignia transforming before Selene does. If you claimed that Ignia in human form is stronger than Selene’s human form, then he would have killed here as he was then.
 
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That is your thoughts then, so just move on, you feel free to post that panel of Dog Dude then while there is Ignia transforming before Selene does. If you claimed that Ignia in human form is stronger than Selene’s human form, then he would have killed here as he was then.
Blah blah, bullshit. It's why I don't take you seriously. You never have a scan, a manga panel, just Wowfan's personal interpretation. Please prove you have basic comprehension:

Post the scan.

Admit that's not a thing, only human Ignia affected the Labyrith. You're what if arguments are fucking irrelevant.


Stop fucking bothering me bro, I don't care about your opinion, ya crackpot theories, because it's a waste of time. You can't even take an L when it's obvious. Leave me alone, you do have your dignity still yes?
 
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Blah blah, bullshit. It's why I don't take you seriously. You never have a scan, a manga panel, just Wowfan's personal interpretation. Please prove you have basic comprehension:

Post the scan.

Admit that's not a thing, only human Ignia affected the Labyrith. You're what if arguments are fucking irrelevant.


Stop fucking bothering me bro, I don't care about your opinion, ya crackpot theories, because it's a waste of time. You can't even take an L when it's obvious. Leave me alone, you do have your dignity still yes?
Neither do yours since you don’t seem to provide evidence for your claims, I have posted plenty of scans from the past, and if you say no, you are either respectfully blind or ignoring it like you claim above with not caring about posts. As soon as you post Dog dude busting up a moon. And yet Ignia transformed before Selene, if he was truly Stronger than Selene in human form there would have been no need. They are not what ifs if they have visual feats and scaling and evidence behind them. Then don’t reply if you are that annoyed when you know you don have a point to begin with that resort to fictional scenarios, that is the biggest L.
 

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What is even goin on here? All this arguments is based on some semantics bullshit, quite tiresome.

It is very clear from the context that Ignia was talking about actual dragons there.
Igneel was the strongest dragon. But Acnologia defeated him, hence Acno is stronger. Whether Acno is considered a dragon or not is irrelevant. His genetics probably changed to a mix between dragons and humans. What matters is Acno > Igneel.
Ignia is narratively the representation of prime Igneel's power in the current world. Via narrative, he's probably >= Igneel. Whether he's stronger than Acno or not, we will see I guess. Ignia may be boasting as well about his claims, who knows?
IMO Ignia may match or even surpass Acnologia in raw stats, but Acno wins in the end because his ability is broken.

That said. Anyone denying Ignia being stronger than Selene is delusional.
It is quite obvious from narrative (the dragon saved for the last, Natsu's finale etc). It is also quite obvious from feats, Ignia was taking turns to exchange blows, was facetanking attacks from Selene - he was treating it as a brawl, a challenge. Selene has to teleport away, dip in sea to deal with Ignia's flames. Levels to this......
 

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What is even goin on here? All this arguments is based on some semantics bullshit, quite tiresome.

It is very clear from the context that Ignia was talking about actual dragons there.
Igneel was the strongest dragon. But Acnologia defeated him, hence Acno is stronger. Whether Acno is considered a dragon or not is irrelevant. His genetics probably changed to a mix between dragons and humans. What matters is Acno > Igneel.
Ignia is narratively the representation of prime Igneel's power in the current world. Via narrative, he's probably >= Igneel. Whether he's stronger than Acno or not, we will see I guess. Ignia may be boasting as well about his claims, who knows?
IMO Ignia may match or even surpass Acnologia in raw stats, but Acno wins in the end because his ability is broken.

That said. Anyone denying Ignia being stronger than Selene is delusional.
It is quite obvious from narrative (the dragon saved for the last, Natsu's finale etc). It is also quite obvious from feats, Ignia was taking turns to exchange blows, was facetanking attacks from Selene - he was treating it as a brawl, a challenge. Selene has to teleport away, dip in sea to deal with Ignia's flames. Levels to this......
There's also the fact that Ignia blasted a hole through Selene, while a similarly abrupt attack from her couldn't do close to the same damage
 

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What is even goin on here? All this arguments is based on some semantics bullshit, quite tiresome.

It is very clear from the context that Ignia was talking about actual dragons there.
Igneel was the strongest dragon. But Acnologia defeated him, hence Acno is stronger. Whether Acno is considered a dragon or not is irrelevant. His genetics probably changed to a mix between dragons and humans. What matters is Acno > Igneel.
Ignia is narratively the representation of prime Igneel's power in the current world. Via narrative, he's probably >= Igneel. Whether he's stronger than Acno or not, we will see I guess. Ignia may be boasting as well about his claims, who knows?
IMO Ignia may match or even surpass Acnologia in raw stats, but Acno wins in the end because his ability is broken.

That said. Anyone denying Ignia being stronger than Selene is delusional.
It is quite obvious from narrative (the dragon saved for the last, Natsu's finale etc). It is also quite obvious from feats, Ignia was taking turns to exchange blows, was facetanking attacks from Selene - he was treating it as a brawl, a challenge. Selene has to teleport away, dip in sea to deal with Ignia's flames. Levels to this......
Because flames usually can’t be put out until you wash or blow them away, and dragon fire can’t burn itself out, her attacks are moon base elements so wouldn’t have similar affect. It is stated repeatedly by multiple people that Dragon Gods scale to each other, and Ignia won through trickery in a temporary cease fire.
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There's also the fact that Ignia blasted a hole through Selene, while a similarly abrupt attack from her couldn't do close to the same damage
That is when Selene was on her guard and fighting that Ignia’s attck didn’t work before, and a similar attack from Ignia she could overpower with hers, when she wasn’t and Ignia used a sneak attack it worked, not uncommon trope in this manga and any other media.
 
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Basically this is how the tiering go imo based on relative strength on past and current characters in recent showings and scaling.

  1. Acnologia
  2. Natsu with Savage Flames
  3. Igneel (based on Ignia's statement)
  4. Zeref in Base
  5. Ignia (Same DG Tier)
  6. Selene (Same DG Tier)
  7. Aldoron (Same DG Tier)
  8. Mercphobia (Same DG Tier)
  9. Viernes (Same DG Tier)
  10. Dogramag
  11. August (Upper Spriggan Tier)
  12. Irene (Upper Spriggan Tier)
  13. Gildarts
  14. Laxus (With LDK power up)
  15. Kirin (Strongest of the DDK)
  16. Erza
  17. Jellal
  18. Wendy
  19. Suzaku (Same DDK Tier)
  20. Misaki (Same DDK Tier)
  21. Haku (Same DDK Tier)
  22. Larcade (Mid Spriggan)
  23. Gray
  24. Chelia with Third Origin
  25. Invel (Same Spriggan Tier)
  26. Brandish (Same Spriggan Tier)
  27. God Serena (Same Spriggan Tier)
  28. Wall (Same Spriggan Tier)
  29. Bloodman (Same Spriggan Tier)
  30. Dimaria (Same Spriggan Tier)
  31. Neinhart (Same Spriggan Tier)
  32. Jacob (Same Spriggan Tier)
  33. Ajeel (Same Spriggan Tier)
  34. Gajeel
  35. Mirajane
  36. Lucy
  37. Kyria (Same Diabolos Trio Tier)
  38. Skullion (Same Diabolos Trio Tier)
  39. Madmole (Same Diabolos Trio Tier)
  40. Juvia
  41. Elfman
  42. Nebaru
  43. Wraith
  44. Mard Geer
  45. Mades
  46. Sting
  47. Kagura
  48. Rogue
  49. Minerva
  50. Makarov
I disagree with that list.

I would appreciate if you could justify your rankings, if you have time.
 

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I disagree with that list.

I would appreciate if you could justify your rankings, if you have time.
I will give justification when I get back, currently about to fly now.

For starters,
  1. Acno is top for his ability to consume magic and become stronger from it, with RoT being an entire dimension of magic and linked to time, it would make him universe level as time and it's aspects have been references as worlds or universes, and that is not the only RoT as Age Seal could cause a RoT as well.
  2. Natsu with his Savage Flames are able to burn through time, and his emotions are tied to the heat of his flames, which at that temperature would break down the laws of physics. and this is the only time Natsu was at his peak here and something he can't do more than once as it burns even him.
  3. Zeref with FH would scale to the RoT as he has infinite magic power and was about to destroy the world to create a new one. then there is his base which his nerfed form was damaging and killing a DG. and even scales to the Phoenix which could destroy the world.
  4. Then there is the DGs in their dragon form which they would each scale to one another, pretty much stronger than where human Selene could increase the size of the moon.
  5. Dog Dude is weaker than the rest so he is his own rank. Igneel is tough so I would put him around that level too for now.
  6. Then there is August and Irene, who the latter could send away Acnologia in his human form and the former scales to.
  7. Wendy with her potential unleashed, Erza who managed to overpower a DDK and Laxus with his LDK mode.
  8. Adding DDK guys as they scale around where Gildarts is, and Kirin would be the strongest of the group.
  9. Jellal simply because I do not know where to put him here.
  10. Following Larcade since he is the 3rd strongest of the Spriggans.
  11. Next there is the rest of the Spriggans as they each scale to one another as comparable to God Serena.
  12. We get to the mid FT fighters like Gajeel, Mira and Gray who needed either external power ups or other circumstances to get this far.
  13. Lucy only because of Godfried Spell which her strongest spell but needs prep time and beat Kyria in one shot.
  14. Then there is the Dragon Eater Trio which they may have had their moments but 2 could not get past the likes of Mira who was holding back or Elfman.
  15. The rest well, they don't really contribute much anymore in the current scheme of things unless circumstances arise
 
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There's also the fact that Ignia blasted a hole through Selene, while a similarly abrupt attack from her couldn't do close to the same damage
I am honestly willing to give Selene benefit of doubt here.
Off guard attacks in FT have consistently been super effective and deal much more damage than if on guard.

Now the question is, whether such an off guard attack would work on Ignia. Likely not, for the following reasons:
- Ignia even spelled out loud he was going to attack, and it was from the front. Selene still got caught off guard
- Selene tried to sneak behind Ignia via teleport, no words or anything. Ignia saw it coming and dodged
- the way both were dealing with each others' attacks is also telling. Ignia facetanks and treats them as a challenge. While Selene teleports, dips in sea. Meaning, chances are, Ignia will just tank Selene's roar even if he gets hit by it off guard

The way the fight was carefully structured was very intentional from Mashima. Where he had Ignia treat it as a challenge and tanks Selene's attacks, while Selene prefers avoiding fighting Ignia and teleports/dips in water to deal with Ignia's attacks.

He rarely does this (Mashima usually bullshits in his fights in the spinoff).
Mashima does this only when he wants to preserve some portrayal - pretty much the only other character he did it in the spinoff was Suzaku, where he spelled out as clear as possible that Natsu didn't magically get tankier but needed to use his scales (i.e DF durability) to not get one shot, that Suzaku's speed was restricted in narrow walls, that Natsu needed to rely on Suzaku's footworks cause he is too fast for Natsu to react to.
There is a reason Suzaku scares all the Spriggan wankers here, cause they deep down knows he's one of the only few characters Mashima truly gives a damn about.

If Ignia vs Selene continued, Ignia would've high diff'd Selene.
Mashima ended it with a distraction, cause that's the only way for him to not humiliate Selene by having her lose clean, while also making it clear Ignia was stronger

Because flames usually can’t be put out until you wash or blow them away, and dragon fire can’t burn itself out, her attacks are moon base elements so wouldn’t have similar affect. It is stated repeatedly by multiple people that Dragon Gods scale to each other, and Ignia won through trickery in a temporary cease fire.
Characters have been tanking attacks from Natsu forever.
Ignia's flames are basically Igneel's flames, i.e Natsu's flames at a higher level.

If you are strong enough, you tank them and fight through it. Selene has to rely on teleportation and dippings.
 

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I am honestly willing to give Selene benefit of doubt here.
Off guard attacks in FT have consistently been super effective and deal much more damage than if on guard.

Now the question is, whether such an off guard attack would work on Ignia. Likely not, for the following reasons:
- Ignia even spelled out loud he was going to attack, and it was from the front. Selene still got caught off guard
- Selene tried to sneak behind Ignia via teleport, no words or anything. Ignia saw it coming and dodged
- the way both were dealing with each others' attacks is also telling. Ignia facetanks and treats them as a challenge. While Selene teleports, dips in sea. Meaning, chances are, Ignia will just tank Selene's roar even if he gets hit by it off guard

The way the fight was carefully structured was very intentional from Mashima. Where he had Ignia treat it as a challenge and tanks Selene's attacks, while Selene prefers avoiding fighting Ignia and teleports/dips in water to deal with Ignia's attacks.

He rarely does this (Mashima usually bullshits in his fights in the spinoff).
Mashima does this only when he wants to preserve some portrayal - pretty much the only other character he did it in the spinoff was Suzaku, where he spelled out as clear as possible that Natsu didn't magically get tankier but needed to use his scales (i.e DF durability) to not get one shot, that Suzaku's speed was restricted in narrow walls, that Natsu needed to rely on Suzaku's footworks cause he is too fast for Natsu to react to.
There is a reason Suzaku scares all the Spriggan wankers here, cause they deep down knows he's one of the only few characters Mashima truly gives a damn about.

If Ignia vs Selene continued, Ignia would've high diff'd Selene.
Mashima ended it with a distraction, cause that's the only way for him to not humiliate Selene by having her lose clean, while also making it clear Ignia was stronger



Characters have been tanking attacks from Natsu forever.
Ignia's flames are basically Igneel's flames, i.e Natsu's flames at a higher level.

If you are strong enough, you tank them and fight through it. Selene has to rely on teleportation and dippings.
That doesn't make the stats Of Natsu’s flames god tier unless he goes Savage Flames Which are the strongest kind, because it is a fire attack and needs to be washed, he even said his element is bad against it. Natsu usually uses his for just standard blunt force than actual burning.
 

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Yo Gray Matter where do you argue that?
 

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so i found this in the official tl, madmolle never said that "there's a guild that stans on par with us" he said that there are guilds that compete with wizArd guilds. Rax on twitter mad a claim that none of gold owl are really important or relevant and he is right. from skullion's pov misaki maybe the strongest woman on the continent or she may not. which is not a bad assessment as skullion is a very careful dude he does not make rash decisions or on the spot decisons
 

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Who ever said they were?
 

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so i found this in the official tl, madmolle never said that "there's a guild that stans on par with us" he said that there are guilds that compete with wizArd guilds. Rax on twitter mad a claim that none of gold owl are really important or relevant and he is right. from skullion's pov misaki maybe the strongest woman on the continent or she may not. which is not a bad assessment as skullion is a very careful dude he does not make rash decisions or on the spot decisons
I have to double check because I thought gold owl was on a different continent than them
 

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Random PL rankings
Dragon gods
Dogramag/Prime Elefseria
DDSK/Gildarts/Laxus/Natsu/Erza/Jellal/signario sisters
Spriggans/God Serena
Skullion and his goons
 

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My ranking of 100YQ character :

Ignia>Selene>Aldoron>Mercphobia>>>> Dogramag
Georg > Duke
DF Natsu > Faris
Suzaku > Laxus = Erza > Kirin > Misaki >FDKM Natsu > Yoko > Haku
Jellal > Enny > Luso
God Serena > Brandish
Athena = Athena 2 > DF Nebaru
Gray with enchants > Hakune > LFD Natsu = ISDM Gajeel > Wendy B (no Irene)
Skullion = Mirajane > Kyria > DeS Gray (no Darkness) > Lucy = DF Wendy > Madmole = Elfman
Mimi > Wraith > Sai

I'm going to get jumped for this list so I will explain :

Yoko could give extreme difficulty to Erza and overwhelmed Red Pants that's why she is so high.
Lucy needed help to defeat Kyria that's why she's below her.
Gray didn't show anything to defeat Skullion and Kyria without help.
Wendy without Irene would get stomped by Nebaru and Haku so she's very low.
 

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My ranking of 100YQ character :

Ignia>Selene>Aldoron>Mercphobia>>>> Dogramag
Georg > Duke
DF Natsu > Faris
Suzaku > Laxus = Erza > Kirin > Misaki >FDKM Natsu > Yoko > Haku
Jellal > Enny > Luso
God Serena > Brandish
Athena = Athena 2 > DF Nebaru
Gray with enchants > Hakune > LFD Natsu = ISDM Gajeel > Wendy B (no Irene)
Skullion = Mirajane > Kyria > DeS Gray (no Darkness) > Lucy = DF Wendy > Madmole = Elfman
Mimi > Wraith > Sai

I'm going to get jumped for this list so I will explain :

Yoko could give extreme difficulty to Erza and overwhelmed Red Pants that's why she is so high.
Lucy needed help to defeat Kyria that's why she's below her.
Gray didn't show anything to defeat Skullion and Kyria without help.
Wendy without Irene would get stomped by Nebaru and Haku so she's very low.
Kirin clearly stated he's the strongest mage in Diablos, why do you have Suzaku above him? Let alone Laxus & Erza.
 

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Kirin clearly stated he's the strongest mage in Diablos, why do you have Suzaku above him? Let alone Laxus & Erza.
Because Kirin is arrogant about his power level and he was only a contender for the strongest just like Laxus is a contender for FT's strongest but we all know he isn't.
 

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Yoko could give extreme difficulty to Erza and overwhelmed Red Pants that's why she is so high
Yoko being that high is asinine. That was not an extreme diff. An extreme diff is when both fighters can't move. Laxus vs Erza, Misaki vs Erza, dogramag vs suzaku and natsu, suzaku vs selene. Yoko vs Erza is nowhere near extreme diff. Yoko has no reason to scale to BDSK level, erza jobbed that fight
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Kirin clearly stated he's the strongest mage in Diablos, why do you have Suzaku above him? Let alone Laxus & Erza.
Kirin is an arrogant guy and he refuses to accept his defeat and especially when he got two shotted. And laxus=erza
 
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