Games Mafia Game 125 - PSYCHO-PAN - End Game

[Brandish μ]

I would like to reveal by day 2 as well, to aid Inspectors.

 

[Vandred]

Great theme, curious mechanics. I love the custom take on the more familiar roles.

Anyway, votekill Lambu =3=

I dont think it means anything of the sort, the series is about people having a score that assigns how much of a criminal you are. The higher their number, the more likely that person is to commit a crime, so they are people that have misdeeds behind their backs = risky individuals

I dont think the top voter thingy is that relevant except for a scum trying to avoid being shot in the day by an Inspector. Thats actually so op if its done right, but so it is the double Mafia Det.

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Honestly, considering they are going to check 2 people tonight and then supplant two others with Janitor, perhaps we should all claim on Day 2, its a viable option.

I'm trying to think of the pros and cons of an early mass reveal and if it's more of a benefit to town than not. In the first few scenarios that come to mind we end up with a bunch of 33-50% chance of a correct lynch, which is... slightly better than usual? Not sure if I'm being too optimistic though.

 

[Juviii]

I would like to reveal by day 2 as well, to aid Inspectors.

I'm fine with it too. Since our only investigative roles are the analyst that can see scores instead of the more direct dets and spies, that might be needed to get a clearer view.

 

[Lambu]

Great theme, curious mechanics. I love the custom take on the more familiar roles.

Anyway, votekill Lambu =3=



I'm trying to think of the pros and cons of an early mass reveal and if it's more of a benefit to town than not. In the first few scenarios that come to mind we end up with a bunch of 33-50% chance of a correct lynch, which is... slightly better than usual? Not sure if I'm being too optimistic though.

Sounds like a decent plan but its only very effective if everyone reveals, and we know some wont so there will be cons. Still will set a place for analysts to look if they feel indecisive.

 

[Erinyes]

When I saw the list of roles in my pm I thought i was someone special, a favored, beloved townie,

just to realize afterwards that it was posted on the op post for everyone

I'm not familiar at all with psycho pass, what's an asymptomatic agent?

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wikia says " A Criminally Asymptomatic person is a person whose cymatic scan fails to align with their personality. These individuals are difficult for the Sibyl System to judge as their Psycho-Pass is either close to zero, non-existent or it cannot be determined at all. They can commit the worst crimes or forms of brutality against humanity, while still remaining detached from it. In old psychological lore, they were once also known as "Psychopaths", "Sociopaths" or diagnosed with "Antisocial Personality Disorder". That said, not all CA individuals are bad. "

 

[Tatsumaki]

Meh, my dudette kinda looks lame.

But the incentivising top poster system kinda feels personal. What's that risk thing they talk about? Somebody just gonna blow up or what?

The only risk I see is that if you have lots of points you can be offed by a prosecutor.

 

[Evil3ye]

The only risk I see is that if you have lots of points you can be offed by a prosecutor.

Then easy easy.

Wondering if that will make the mafia try to not vote for top lynchee to avert the risk a little bit, but day 1 they are likely to stay low anyway unless one of their sheep is in danger.

What says you to reveal thing?

 

[Juviii]

When I saw the list of roles in my pm I thought i was someone special, a favored, beloved townie,

just to realize afterwards that it was posted on the op post for everyone

I'm not familiar at all with psycho pass, what's an asymptomatic agent?

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wikia says " A Criminally Asymptomatic person is a person whose cymatic scan fails to align with their personality. These individuals are difficult for the Sibyl System to judge as their Psycho-Pass is either close to zero, non-existent or it cannot be determined at all. They can commit the worst crimes or forms of brutality against humanity, while still remaining detached from it. In old psychological lore, they were once also known as "Psychopaths", "Sociopaths" or diagnosed with "Antisocial Personality Disorder". That said, not all CA individuals are bad. "

Confessing to be a psychopath on D1?

 

[Farfalla]

Votekill Gry

Hosts, you got Van's vote on Lambs inverted btw (the #22 one)

Sounds like a decent plan but its only very effective if everyone reveals, and we know some wont so there will be cons. Still will set a place for analysts to look if they feel indecisive.

Having people that often won't reveal such as Van and Bran supporting the idea seems like an indicative that this mass reveal is doable

 

[wojak]

Votekill Togane
A creepy disturbing dude he is.

 

[Holt]

Votekill Erin. I never got around to finishing psycho pass but this my queue I guess. The vibe on the Ava (which I’ll put on in a few) are pretty nice

 

[Brandish μ]

I am the Asymptomatic Agent

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Wojak (#30)

Hey, this link needs a touch up

 

[GrySun]

Quick reread after last night, but wow this sounds so heavily pro town. We may just ruin the game in an instawin with mass claiming. Their det and janitor become pointless, and we basically get many lynch options right off the bat.
I feel like this time the game is especially susceptible to reveals than any other, so we‘d be kinda stress testing Panda‘s game for if he accounted for this.

I have no problems with claiming today at all if we‘re doing it, for the record.

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I am a simple Ministry Agent. A vanilla townie essentially.

It feels like the game wont survive this stress test. Usually with rolelist reveal games you have mostly vanilla townies and a few power roles, so claiming gets discouraged to hide the good roles. And while we only have 3 power roles, the two prosecutors and two analysts are way more than just vanillas. These subgroups also make the scum much easier to find than in a sea of vanillas.

I feel like mafia needed a role like the town Prosecutor to punish towns with a high score?

Worth noting:
-Prosecutor works differently in this game. The two Inspectors dont kill a mafia and die to a town, but specifically kill a 300+ score person and die to 299 and lower score person. While I see the gameplay of the tracking roles tracking scores and ability to punish afkers directly as a player with a kill, its overall not too useful. 1/4 mafia will never be killable either.

Essentially of the 10 town players we have, 2 are confirmed(Inspectors), one is semi-confirmed(the asymptomatic agent), and the mafia will have to claim and match the remaining 7.

-Our 2 analysts can look for a guy that isn‘t a claimed asymptomatic agent(so everyone not Brandish), and if they get a 100 score result it is very likely the hidden mafia asymptomatic boss. Just make sure to not target someone who mathematically likely will have 100 points on N1.

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If mafia boss contests Brandish its a 50/50, if not then our 2 Analysts can keep poking til they find him(excluding unfortunate math, but since we have the points table we can anticipate and calculte it to some extent).

The 2 mafia criminals and 1 mafia analyst can do a couple of different approaches to the mass revealing, will be interesting to see which one they do.

 

[shinobi]

Interesting reveals already ~

 

[GrySun]

Interesting reveals already ~

Are you in favor of reveals?

 

[Evil3ye]

Interesting reveals already ~

Who are you?

 

[shinobi]

Are you in favor of reveals?

There are 2 janitors trying to steal roles, maybe early reveals make it difficult for them.
I know I'll reveal this day or d2 anyway.

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Who are you?

A good townie, trust me ~~

 

[GrySun]

Whoever doesnt reveal D1 is likely to be nightkilled by the Janitor

 

[Erinyes]

I am the Asymptomatic Agent

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Hey, this link needs a touch up

What is that asymptomatic agent ? i thought at 1st a vanilla townie but there should be more to it ?

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Guys dont let me die ,

you need me, I'm a very very good one !

 

[Juviii]

I'm ministry agent as well.

Interesting. So both Erin and Brandish claim assymptomatic but there was only 1 townie one.