Games Mafia Game 125 - PSYCHO-PAN - End Game

[Vandred]

It’s unethical ofc but the hostkill basically confirms she wasn’t lying. After all it wouldn’t apply if it wasn’t in pm

It only confirms she baited alluding to PM content, which was evident to all involved. Where the PM content is real or not, it makes no difference as it's still trying to exploit an external confirmation.

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At some point we should talk about there being four analyst claims. As of now I find Shino trustworthy. I have been wrong about Sam in the past but I still find him sus. And Lambu having 0 points according to Shino is also very sus.

With this I go to sleep. Will check things when I’m awake. Good night chuds and chudettes

Fairly sure that's not how Analysts work, but okay. I take it the scum are Sam and Lambu for you, then?

 

[Erinyes]

It only confirms she baited alluding to PM content, which was evident to all involved. Where the PM content is real or not, it makes no difference as it's still trying to exploit an external confirmation.

I dont think there was any crucial info in her post imo, I didnt get a single thing of it and I think its more the interpretation of it than actual content. i I reread it several times, to me its so vague. But her being hostkilled is basically confirming her, if she was not i might have doubted her imo, but now theres no room for doubt.

 

[Farfalla]

Oi guys , try to reach quickly 300+ so I can use my role Asap Do your best so I can spill some blood !

Tonight (when I have the time) I might start writing down possible scores in case they help.
(according to what happens in the thread and role usage based on role description and claims)

 

[Erinyes]

I take it the scum are Sam and Lambu for you, then?

Wojak being blocked is convenient but could be real, too. i dont trust sam and Lambu too but im mixed abouy wojak too

 

[Farfalla]

The action pic in the OP states the points are tallied at the end of phase, so unless it's some roundabout interpretation, Lambu should have shown 0, no?

I understood that Analysts will get the total amount accumulated by the end of the night, and not at the start of it.
Just like a Spy, at the end of the night, would see what happened in it, with a processing order represented by the priority.
@Copy Panda @Lawl Po Bia @Marmalade is this understanding correct?

 

[Erinyes]

Tonight (when I have the time) I might start writing down possible scores in case they help.
(according to what happens in the thread and role usage based on role description and claims)

Thank you, i dont know how many points I have myself might have nothing unless Ive been targetted twice.

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I understood that Analysts will get the total amount accumulated by the end of the night, and not at the start of it.
Just like a Spy, at the end of the night, would see what happened in it, with a processing order represented by the priority.
@Copy Panda @Lawl Po Bia @Marmalade is this understanding correct?

I do too.

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it makes more sense.

 

[Farfalla]

Where the PM content is real or not, it makes no difference

I don't think it makes no difference for the sense Holt brought up. You and Gry "confirmed" it (well, cause it seems only Gry did) indicating she shared real PM content. I'm also of the opinion it wasn't simply baiting (especially cause that 400 IQ scenario is a major stretch).

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Wojak being blocked is convenient but could be real, too. i dont trust sam and Lambu too but im mixed abouy wojak too

I think wojak is simply scum that cannot check scores and saw a guess as something risky.
But then it's weird for me to picture him in a group with Van, which would create a code so the real mafia analyst would leak the score @.@
But then maybe it's just cause they can't have 2 individual scores to present (and the mafia analyst also claimed town analyst which is the most reasonable claim) and a possible tie with the same target would also be a big risk?

 

[Erinyes]

I think wojak is simply scum that cannot check scores and saw a guess as something risky.

This crossed my mind too.

 

[Marmalade]

I understood that Analysts will get the total amount accumulated by the end of the night, and not at the start of it.
Just like a Spy, at the end of the night, would see what happened in it, with a processing order represented by the priority.
@Copy Panda @Lawl Po Bia @Marmalade is this understanding correct?

No thats not correct, its the end of day.

 

[Evil3ye]

The action pic in the OP states the points are tallied at the end of phase, so unless it's some roundabout interpretation, Lambu should have shown 0, no

Where is this info coming from? I tried to research now, it says nowhere. Maybe your Mafia PM or pad mhhh???
Also, what would have been your strategy with this analyst role?

Wojak being blocked is convenient but could be real, too. i dont trust sam and Lambu too but im mixed abouy wojak too

So far non of the analysts are very trustworthy to be honest. Yesterday I thought maybe lambu, but during the night I considered he might be just an opportunistic mafia. Time will tell - or the integrity of their results. So far we have as followed:

wojak -> claims to have targetted sam and to be blocked. all enforcers denied it. he is either lying or he is being set-up by mafia who choose to use one of their two blocking actions on it
shino -> claims to have checked lambu with zero. apparently this could be possible? would rule out of him being mafia boss, if true. but zero also being a safe result, i guess?
lambu, sam -> both avoided the thread so far

 

[shinobi]

?

The points table says that the points are tallied at the end of every phase. So I thought the result I got was including the points of whatever happened during the night phase........

 

[Farfalla]

Where is this info coming from? I tried to research now, it says nowhere. Maybe your Mafia PM or pad mhhh???

It's the first line of the image with how we get points.

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shino -> claims to have checked lambu with zero. apparently this could be possible? would rule out of him being mafia boss, if true. but zero also being a safe

This at first seems solid, tho. Of course, mafia could have checked the rules with the hosts during the night so they'd know someone like Lambu would have 0, but hmmm it felt genuine. But welp, this feeling kinda came from an exchange with Van and I don't wanna have his influence over my thoughts again.

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lambu, sam -> both avoided the thread so far

Ik he says he's busy but Sam's activity in this game is really far from his latest ones.

 

[Vandred]

I understood that Analysts will get the total amount accumulated by the end of the night, and not at the start of it.
Just like a Spy, at the end of the night, would see what happened in it, with a processing order represented by the priority.
@Copy Panda @Lawl Po Bia @Marmalade is this understanding correct?

Where is this info coming from? I tried to research now, it says nowhere. Maybe your Mafia PM or pad mhhh???
Also, what would have been your strategy with this analyst role?

?

The points table says that the points are tallied at the end of every phase. So I thought the result I got was including the points of whatever happened during the night phase........

I don't know, it made so much sense to me that I never even considered the alternative Maybe I'm in sync with panda language...

I dont think there was any crucial info in her post imo, I didnt get a single thing of it and I think its more the interpretation of it than actual content. i I reread it several times, to me its so vague. But her being hostkilled is basically confirming her, if she was not i might have doubted her imo, but now theres no room for doubt.

I don't think it makes no difference for the sense Holt brought up. You and Gry "confirmed" it (well, cause it seems only Gry did) indicating she shared real PM content. I'm also of the opinion it wasn't simply baiting (especially cause that 400 IQ scenario is a major stretch).

Faking PM content has been hostkill material since forever. I agree that it's a major stretch, it's the very reason Gry and I saw it as an extremely remote possibility and accepted it would need to be either him or me.

The only other explanations are even crazier, such as Juviii being Traitor claiming a different category than her own, on top of the fake baiting. Which would explain the ??? a bit more since that doesn't really make sense to me other than hiding something that would unfairly confirm someone else, but still.

 

[Farfalla]

Faking PM content has been hostkill material since forever. I agree that it's a major stretch, it's the very reason Gry and I saw it as an extremely remote possibility and accepted it would need to be either him or me.

I can check Gry's posts later but I don't recall he ever considering that there was a possibility for Juvs to be faking.

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The only other explanations are even crazier, such as Juviii being Traitor claiming a different category than her own, on top of the fake baiting. Which would explain the ??? a bit more since that doesn't really make sense to me other than hiding something that would unfairly confirm someone else, but still.

Well, showing if she's town or scum alone is very relevant for your situation and outcome, for example, so I don't think it doesn't make sense to hide if she's a ministry agent.

 

[Erinyes]

The only other explanations are even crazier, such as Juviii being Traitor claiming a different category than her own, on top of the fake baiting. Which would explain the ??? a bit more since that doesn't really make sense to me other than hiding something that would unfairly confirm someone else, but still.

Do you think there might be a traitor ?I don't exclude one, even though i believe someone was either blocked or protected. But still the possibility exists.

 

[Evil3ye]

So, to my fellow Enforcers, while I am burning to know what we all did at night, somehow there was no kill, so great job, but maybe let's just agree sharing what we did if it is relevant to other interactions (for now)?

Like say, the Analyst block claims.

Or anyone has a different take? @Farfalla @Tatsumaki @Holt

At some point we will die and there will be info gabs though, so what do you think?

 

[Erinyes]

No thats not correct, its the end of day.

oh no it will take even longer to get to found out someone with 300+ i might be dead before even being able to use my role

 

[digitaldude]

oh no it will take even longer to get to found out someone with 300+ i might be dead before even being able to use my role

At this point we are the only role that can help mafia lol

 

[Vandred]

I can check Gry's posts later but I don't recall he ever considering that there was a possibility for Juvs to be faking.

Fairly sure he did, but maybe I'm mixing him up with Evil?

Well, showing if she's town or scum alone is very relevant for your situation and outcome, for example, so I don't think it doesn't make sense to hide if she's a ministry agent.

Never said it doesn't, but for what? If I were mafia wouldn't I already have achieved my goal with removing both Gry and Juvs before me, and wouldn't it be unfair to leave town without a way to confirm my role other than via lynch?

Do you think there might be a traitor ?I don't exclude one, even though i believe someone was either blocked or protected. But still the possibility exists.

The hosts left the possibility of secondaries open, so why not. Though with mafia having Dets and Janitors it doesn't look like they anticipated a D1 mass reveal, so it's hard to fathom how the game was supposed to play out in their original vision,

 

[Lambu]

Votekill Vandred, cause theres no better placeholder

Good job to enforcers if they blocked a kill, but remember there could be a traitor recruitment aswell, we need to be cautious.

Now that's interesting, because he should be having points if he analed someone.

As Marms pointed out scores are tallied at the end of the phase, so the only thing we could do last night is fish for the asymptomatic mafo.

I targetted Holt and I got zero points for the record.

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^

@SirSamuel016 @Lambu what did you do tonight ?

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Oi guys , try to reach quickly 300+ so I can use my role Asap Do your best so I can spill some blood !