Urek runs FH gauntlet

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

The gauntlet -

1) Tu Perie Tperie (Light bearer)

2) Gustang

3) Yirang

4) Hendo lock

5) Arie han

6) Traumerei

7) Eurasia

8) Ha yurin

9) Khun Eduan

10) Arie hon

Where does he stops?

Bonus round - He get heals after every 3 rounds.

 

[kkck]

What's the point of a gauntlet where the person in the gauntlet gets a heal every few rounds? That's not a gauntlet, that's multiple gauntlets.

 

[VON]

He might stop at the top 3FHs.

1v1, he should absolutely convincingly win against non-top 3 with like highish mid-difficulty. Fighting the top 3 FHs back to back is probably where his streak ends.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

What's the point of a gauntlet where the person in the gauntlet gets a heal every few rounds? That's not a gauntlet, that's multiple gauntlets.

They don't get any heals. Only in bonus round urek get heals every 3 round meaning after every 3 opponent he faces in gauntlet.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

He stops at Blossom

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Most likely Clears even without rest ups.

If he can be much better than Arie Hon himself as a regular and visibly have no permanent injuries from facing his sword head on then it's no exaggeration to say the current him is far above.

For context , Urek doesn't have the family head contract so if he scars he scars, if he loses an arm he's lost an arm permanently, the fact he doesn't meant his body's defense was perfect against the strongest weapon in the tower.


And if his current casual state probably still a bit below full body reinforcement, maybe 80-90%, AKA normal base is getting compared to blossoms flames then the implications are astronomical in size.

There's a large power chasm even between the top 5 of the FH's and Urek extends the gap even further.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Most likely Clears even without rest ups.

If he can be much better than Arie Hon himself as a regular and visibly have no permanent injuries from facing his sword head on then it's no exaggeration to say the current him is far above.

For context , Urek doesn't have the family head contract so if he scars he scars, if he loses an arm he's lost an arm permanently, the fact he doesn't meant his body's defense was perfect against the strongest weapon in the tower.


And if his current casual state probably still a bit below full body reinforcement, maybe 80-90%, AKA normal base is getting compared to blossoms flames then the implications are astronomical in size.

There's a large power chasm even between the top 5 of the FH's and Urek extends the gap even further.

You think the gap between urek and hon/eduan is that big? Honestly the blogpost should be taken with grain of salt for now. SIU can change the whole urek vs hon thing.

 

[VON]

Most likely Clears even without rest ups.

If he can be much better than Arie Hon himself as a regular and visibly have no permanent injuries from facing his sword head on then it's no exaggeration to say the current him is far above.

For context , Urek doesn't have the family head contract so if he scars he scars, if he loses an arm he's lost an arm permanently, the fact he doesn't meant his body's defense was perfect against the strongest weapon in the tower.


And if his current casual state probably still a bit below full body reinforcement, maybe 80-90%, AKA normal base is getting compared to blossoms flames then the implications are astronomical in size.

There's a large power chasm even between the top 5 of the FH's and Urek extends the gap even further.

There should be no difference between regular Urek and current Urek. He’s entered the tower super strong. Clearing floor tests with regulars and the fact he doesn’t get contracts wouldn’t make him stronger.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

There should be no difference between regular Urek and current Urek. He’s entered the tower super strong. Clearing floor tests with regulars and the fact he doesn’t get contracts wouldn’t make him stronger.

That would make absolutely zero sense, for one thing Ureks potential would have to have stagnated after floor hundred which isn't stated anywhere more hinted in the slightest, even in the blogposts.

His potential is explosive and fast.

Even the ten great family heads are still growing till date as is Zahard too, Traum didn't even know when he attained 3D disconnection.

Urek flat out has infinite potential and the highest in the series much beyond what even Baam is showing and he too has infinite potential just not as explosive, to imply Traum can grow but Urek somehow is not would be beyond logic.

And no idea what entering super strong is supposed to be used in implying he stagnated, am I missing something.

Also clearing floor tests with regulars as you say it is what put him beyond Arie Hon levels of strength, how this is somehow supposed to be a point in proving he could not get stronger eludes me.

I mean who did he fight on the lower floors that should have pushed him to even low family head levels in the first place let alone beyond Hon.

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You think the gap between urek and hon/eduan is that big? Honestly the blogpost should be taken with grain of salt for now. SIU can change the whole urek vs hon thing.

Most certainly yes, if when casual and a bit below base most likely even till now he's still comparable to a FH in the top 4 then there's quite a gap.

Hon, Edhuan and most likely Yurin may surpass Blossom but even they cannot simply casually be comparable to her.

Much doubtful even for Ha Yurin to use her body in a state below base to exceed or match the power of blossoms flames.

 

[VON]

That would make absolutely zero sense, for one thing Ureks potential would have to have stagnated after floor hundred which isn't stated anywhere more hinted in the slightest, even in the blogposts.

His potential is explosive and fast.

Even the ten great family heads are still growing till date as is Zahard too, Traum didn't even know when he attained 3D disconnection.

Urek flat out has infinite potential and the highest in the series much beyond what even Baam is showing and he too has infinite potential just not as explosive, to imply Traum can grow but Urek somehow is not would be beyond logic.

And no idea what entering super strong is supposed to be used in implying he stagnated, am I missing something.

Also clearing floor tests with regulars as you say it is what put him beyond Arie Hon levels of strength, how this is somehow supposed to be a point in proving he could not get stronger eludes me.

I mean who did he fight on the lower floors that should have pushed him to even low family head levels in the first place let alone beyond Hon.

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Most certainly yes, if when casual and a bit below base most likely even till now he's still comparable to a FH in the top 4 then there's quite a gap.

Hon, Edhuan and most likely Yurin may surpass Blossom but even they cannot simply casually be comparable to her.

Much doubtful even for Ha Yurin to use her body in a state below base to exceed or match the power of blossoms flames.

He entered that strong which is why he could fight Hon to a draw. There is literally no tests (besides the Fh’s personal test, which really only amounted to Hon and Eduan only) that could even push Urek to any degree of challenge. There’s been no big wars for thousands of years as well so there wouldn’t even be any large scale conflict that could draw out Urek’s strength. Everything hints towards Urek entering as this monster that he is. The guy’s true goal was chasing Phantanium after all. There would literally be nothing against him being this strong when he entered.

Traumerei is getting stronger with necromancy shenanigans and experiments which should have peaked already as well, what is Urek doing that is constantly pushing his potential? Nothing.

This is not a slight on Urek. Dude entered as probably the strongest being in the tower.

 

[Demonspeed]

There should be no difference between regular Urek and current Urek. He’s entered the tower super strong. Clearing floor tests with regulars and the fact he doesn’t get contracts wouldn’t make him stronger.

He probably grew a bit inside the Tower, but not significantly. I don't think he entered and learned nothing at all. There is no Shinsoo outside too.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

He entered that strong which is why he could fight Hon to a draw. There is literally no tests (besides the Fh’s personal test, which really only amounted to Hon and Eduan only) that could even push Urek to any degree of challenge. There’s been no big wars for thousands of years as well so there wouldn’t even be any large scale conflict that could draw out Urek’s strength. Everything hints towards Urek entering as this monster that he is. The guy’s true goal was chasing Phantanium after all. There would literally be nothing against him being this strong when he entered.

Traumerei is getting stronger with necromancy shenanigans and experiments which should have peaked already as well, what is Urek doing that is constantly pushing his potential? Nothing.

This is not a slight on Urek. Dude entered as probably the strongest being in the tower.

It is quite literally impossible for Urek to have entered as a stronger than Arie Hon level being when he was a literal child.

Shinsoo doesn't exist outside the towerfor one and there's also the fact he had to have trained as he went.

Every technique he knows, even shinsoo reinforcement and how to somehow be the only one capable of not manifesting it automatically as full body reinforcement 24/7 couldn't have magically come to him upon day one.

Gorgons fist didn't land in his lap.

His talent with shinsoo is only rivaled by Baam, stated from day one in the manhwa when Baam became the second person in history who uses shinsoo without an administrator contract.

There doesn't have to be conflicts for one to grow stronger, I think you've forgotten the existence of personal training and the fact it works wonders in this manhwa.

Also no, Traum getting stronger with necromancy only occured when he absorbed every dead soul on this floor to create his monster, he's isolated himself in a fetal position for tens of thousands of years and his power split into four without knowing he was still growing stronger so 3D disconnection happened while he was asleep.


Even passively all the great warriors are still growing let alone Urek.

 

[maverickframe_19]

To be honest he clears everyone but it starts to get tricky with Eurasia. Let's take healing out of it, Eurasia will critically hit him and Eduan will finish him. Somehow if he gets past Eduan as well Arie hon with the fatality 100%

Btw here in my mind, Eurasia is no. 3 and Yurin Ha is no. 4

 

[VON]

He probably grew a bit inside the Tower, but not significantly. I don't think he entered and learned nothing at all. There is no Shinsoo outside too.

Enryu used shinsoo like a god the moment he entered since day 1. I wouldn’t say it’s imposible with whatever shenanigans they had.

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It is quite literally impossible for Urek to have entered as a stronger than Arie Hon level being when he was a literal child.

Shinsoo doesn't exist outside the towerfor one and there's also the fact he had to have trained as he went.

Every technique he knows, even shinsoo reinforcement and how to somehow be the only one capable of not manifesting it automatically as full body reinforcement 24/7 couldn't have magically come to him upon day one.

Gorgons fist didn't land in his lap.

His talent with shinsoo is only rivaled by Baam, stated from day one in the manhwa when Baam became the second person in history who uses shinsoo without an administrator contract.

There doesn't have to be conflicts for one to grow stronger, I think you've forgotten the existence of personal training and the fact it works wonders in this manhwa.

Also no, Traum getting stronger with necromancy only occured when he absorbed every dead soul on this floor to create his monster, he's isolated himself in a fetal position for tens of thousands of years and his power split into four without knowing he was still growing stronger so 3D disconnection happened while he was asleep.


Even passively all the great warriors are still growing let alone Urek.

Literal child was the sworn enemy, an incomplete one at that. There’s no evidences he entered as a child. Yuri even joked how he entered as a big monster in the first few chapters.

Don’t quote me on this but it’s not impossible to know how to use shinsoo once you entered. Enryu had done so as well and be a god at it from day 1.

The fact he didn’t even bother learning shinwonryu and advanced shinsoo techniques indicates that he never needed to learn it…why? Well, because he was a damn monster from day 1.

All irregulars can use shinsoo without contract, Bam is not the 2nd person in history to do so.

Even if that was the case, the FHs has been around for several tens of thousands of years inside the tower. Urek has been here for like 500-1000 years.

 

[zoradante1]

Enryu used shinsoo like a god the moment he entered since day 1. I wouldn’t say it’s imposible with whatever shenanigans they had.

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Literal child was the sworn enemy, an incomplete one at that. There’s no evidences he entered as a child. Yuri even joked how he entered as a big monster in the first few chapters.

Don’t quote me on this but it’s not impossible to know how to use shinsoo once you entered. Enryu had done so as well and be a god at it from day 1.

The fact he didn’t even bother learning shinwonryu and advanced shinsoo techniques indicates that he never needed to learn it…why? Well, because he was a damn monster from day 1.

All irregulars can use shinsoo without contract, Bam is not the 2nd person in history to do so.

Even if that was the case, the FHs has been around for several tens of thousands of years inside the tower. Urek has been here for like 500-1000 years.

Urek was probably stronger on the outside if they can use air as shinsoo, so he might in fact get even weaker than before but with replacing air with shinsoo he might have gotten to same level eventually, but physically i think he is not much stronger, not even FUG could mess with him even at first floor. Its not a far-fetched theory to think urek close to FH level(maybe even same as them) even when he just entered the tower.

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The gauntlet -

1) Tu Perie Tperie (Light bearer)

2) Gustang

3) Yirang

4) Hendo lock

5) Arie han

6) Traumerei

7) Eurasia

8) Ha yurin

9) Khun Eduan

10) Arie hon

Where does he stops?

Bonus round - He get heals after every 3 rounds.

i think he stops at yiraang if she is close to top 4 FHs, gustang is most likely not at full power yet i doubt he would be so below Traumerei if he was then they would not be equals even if he is support because Rei still has leviathan to gain his true full power. If All FHs are at full power, tu perie will be one of the most difficult match ups for Urek i think even though he is likely to be one of the weakest due to tricks, we saw how luslec gave Urek trouble with his poor spells compared to Arlene's.

Tu perie would tire him a lot gustang would not be trouble even if he regains his full power, but yiraang seems like a top 3 FH tier just like blossom from the old blogposts, Even if Urek is getting past round 1 i dont see him pass round 2, because Ari Han is someone who smashed yurin, might as well smash Urek too.

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Most likely Clears even without rest ups.

If he can be much better than Arie Hon himself as a regular and visibly have no permanent injuries from facing his sword head on then it's no exaggeration to say the current him is far above.

For context , Urek doesn't have the family head contract so if he scars he scars, if he loses an arm he's lost an arm permanently, the fact he doesn't meant his body's defense was perfect against the strongest weapon in the tower.


And if his current casual state probably still a bit below full body reinforcement, maybe 80-90%, AKA normal base is getting compared to blossoms flames then the implications are astronomical in size.

There's a large power chasm even between the top 5 of the FH's and Urek extends the gap even further.

imagine Urek beats Vaam, then big Z comes and smashes Urek would be funny as hell to see your reaction

 

[Pro Factor]

Urek was probably stronger on the outside if they can use air as shinsoo, so he might in fact get even weaker than before but with replacing air with shinsoo he might have gotten to same level eventually, but physically i think he is not much stronger, not even FUG could mess with him even at first floor. Its not a far-fetched theory to think urek close to FH level(maybe even same as them) even when he just entered the tower.

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i think he stops at yiraang if she is close to top 4 FHs, gustang is most likely not at full power yet i doubt he would be so below Traumerei if he was then they would not be equals even if he is support because Rei still has leviathan to gain his true full power. If All FHs are at full power, tu perie will be one of the most difficult match ups for Urek i think even though he is likely to be one of the weakest due to tricks, we saw how luslec gave Urek trouble with his poor spells compared to Arlene's.

Tu perie would tire him a lot gustang would not be trouble even if he regains his full power, but yiraang seems like a top 3 FH tier just like blossom from the old blogposts, Even if Urek is getting past round 1 i dont see him pass round 2, because Ari Han is someone who smashed yurin, might as well smash Urek too.

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imagine Urek beats Vaam, then big Z comes and smashes Urek would be funny as hell to see your reaction

You can't use air as shinsoo because properties are not the same,concentration and it doesn't turn into liquid in higher concentrations. Air is basically same as in real Earth.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Literal child was the sworn enemy, an incomplete one at that. There’s no evidences he entered as a child. Yuri even joked how he entered as a big monster in the first few chapters.

Literal child because of the flashback scene, he was the same height as Zahard or Baam and short as fuck standing before the mirror.

Current Urek dwarfs the mirror in size.

Also joking about Urek being a monster to mean he was an adult, can't be serious man.

All irregulars can use shinsoo without contract, Bam is not the 2nd person in history to do so.

No they can't, flat out stated that it had never been done before by anyone who climbed the tower except for Urek.

imagine Urek beats Vaam, then big Z comes and smashes Urek would be funny as hell to see your reaction

Dreaming is free I guess.

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Even if that was the case, the FHs has been around for several tens of thousands of years inside the tower. Urek has been here for like 500-1000 years.

Zero, absolutely zero idea how them being around for longer is a point against him not being the same considering he literally flat out surpassed them in 50 fucking years.

Them being around for longer isn't a point against Urek, it's a point against them considering how fast he grew.

Baam is the only one who's verbatim stated to be the most comparable to Urek in potential, yet somehow he's now conveniently the one to have stagnated after floor 100.

Why not floor 70, maybe even Hidden floor even.

Baam is also growing much faster than them also, is it going to be a point for them also that they were around for longer?

 

[Pro Factor]

Literal child because of the flashback scene, he was the same height as Zahard or Baam and short as fuck standing before the mirror.

Current Urek dwarfs the mirror in size.

Also joking about Urek being a monster to mean he was an adult, can't be serious man.




No they can't, flat out stated that it had never been done before by anyone who climbed the tower except for Urek.

Dreaming is free I guess.

Enryu was literally killing administrator against his will and had a control over shinsoo greater than administrator on top of the fact that he opened gate on 43rd floor. There is no need for Hansung Yu of all people to confirm the fact that Enryu was using shinsoo without contract.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Enryu was literally killing administrator against his will and had a control over shinsoo greater than administrator on top of the fact that he opened gate on 43rd floor. There is no need for Hansung Yu of all people to confirm the fact that Enryu was using shinsoo without contract.

Enryu did not climb the tower.

Even if by semantics we say he did, Enryu will end up being the original first and Urek second, Baam third and current bearer of such affinity with shinsoo.

 

[Pro Factor]

Enryu did not climb the tower.

Even if by semantics we say he did, Enryu will end up being the original first and Urek second, Baam third and current bearer of such affinity with shinsoo.

It's very hard to say if that rule applies to Irregulars. ToG wiki says irregulars can use shinsoo freely, but story doesn't really state it out clearly. I still think all irregulars are same in that regard that they can use shinsoo without contract. Bam and Urek could be exceptions just based on the fact that they are more talented than family frauds, but then again I find that hard to believe.