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If you find it lame why did you get it in the first place...
I was torn between third, I dont even remember the other two, but I kinda randomized which to seat, because my most logical option got me quadrokilled last time and I thought to just try different approach and I won the bidding. I kinda figured only later it's kinda lame, but maybe I'm using it in a shit way so far and there's just too many target options and I don't know where to poke. And also this 'one night this, other night that' function is super annoying me now. But perhaps it will be better later, when the pool of targets gets smaller. I still have couple nights to use it.
 

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ok fine. I'm probably going to die tonight for giving the hints today, so I'll reveal.

I bid* 3 on eva 2 on D1 and won it. I got det with 7 eva. I assume it's sane since it's the highest. Not sure for my second. night eva though.

N1: Demon innocent
N2: Evil innocent


which is why i left demon alone on D2 and leaving Evil alone on D3. My sanity isn't confirmed though.

Also, the players I don't have an opinion on start to look like hidden mafias watchin all us big mouths argue amongst each other. So idk what to say about Gry and Sam openly claiming their evas D2 start.... there is a chance they're left alive on purpose for misslynch, but I'm hoping mafia isn't that evil :))) but the thought is creeping in more and more. So mby I rushed with voting Sam but yea, idk what to do.


Edit:fixed typo on bid* from bit xD
On what grounds are you assuming that you're sane? You could be naive or insane from those results too. If the det is different sanities for some nights then based on Copan's recent trends you might have some insane det in there.
 

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On what grounds are you assuming that you're sane? You could be naive or insane from those results too. If the det is different sanities for some nights then based on Copan's recent trends you might have some insane det in there.
i assume he wouldn't put all 4 sanities for one and second i got from highest det so it must be sane.
 

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i assume he wouldn't put all 4 sanities for one and second i got from highest det so it must be sane.
This is all just an assumption without consideration of the other possibilities though. Unless you have a contradictory result then we can't be sure whether you're sane or otherwise. I'd also argue that just because you got the EVA from its first instance of det doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be sane, that's quite a leap of faith. I don't distrust that you've got the EVA but I do think there's holes in your reasoning.
 

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i won't address the rest of what you said cuz i don't like
YOOO! Could you like, breath in, breath out? Those are valid questions she asked.

You lied to protect your role, that makes sense as a townie. We don't know if you're mafia too though, since this role was up for grabs for everyone.

You do have a point that there was no pressure on you to reveal it, you chose to volunarily and it makes sense having two results.

As a mafia in this mechanic it would makes sense to just not reveal any results and deny town the det robot. It only make sense to mislead town, which right now kind of seems unlikely to me at least, unless you are trying to tie me and Demon together, because you expect me to be lynched today and clear him for the rest of the game. I don't see that you're pushing for my kill right now, so for me that is not an option either.
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On what grounds are you assuming that you're sane? You could be naive or insane from those results too. If the det is different sanities for some nights then based on Copan's recent trends you might have some insane det in there.
Your argument here being that it is a Farfalla game and everything is possible? Kinda farfetch too though to add one single Det in a 19 players game and deprive it from any use at all? Basically a massacre role for town to all get to each other's throats as a christmas special game. Or maybe your own seat is a bit shaky now, following Mafia Gry all game, ayy?
 

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YOOO! Could you like, breath in, breath out? Those are valid questions she asked.

You lied to protect your role, that makes sense as a townie. We don't know if you're mafia too though, since this role was up for grabs for everyone.

You do have a point that there was no pressure on you to reveal it, you chose to volunarily and it makes sense having two results.

As a mafia in this mechanic it would makes sense to just not reveal any results and deny town the det robot. It only make sense to mislead town, which right now kind of seems unlikely to me at least, unless you are trying to tie me and Demon together, because you expect me to be lynched today and clear him for the rest of the game. I don't see that you're pushing for my kill right now, so for me that is not an option either.
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Your argument here being that it is a Farfalla game and everything is possible? Kinda farfetch too though to add one single Det in a 19 players game and deprive it from any use at all? Basically a massacre role for town to all get to each other's throats as a christmas special game. Or maybe your own seat is a bit shaky now, following Mafia Gry all game, ayy?
Maybe it's a bit meta of me but I specifically cited Copan games as the trend, not Farf games. Insane Det is what he often throws in for Det so it's not immediately straight forward for town in the games, whether there's one Det or two so I'd say no it's not far-fetched at all. Mixed sanities for each night might be possible but I wouldn't be surprised to see some insane det in there as is classic bhai.

Haha that's cute but no. Surprised you're coming back to Gry though after you were so hyperfocused on him yesterday only to then try and change your ways.
 

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Haha that's cute but no. Surprised you're coming back to Gry though after you were so hyperfocused on him yesterday only to then try and change your ways.
I was being challenged by other players to widen my horizonts. Dude spent all day trash talking me however, building a vote coalition, and I should be like "sure, cool, ok". Did you ever play a game with me before?
 

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I was being challenged by other players to widen my horizonts. Dude spent all day trash talking me however, building a vote coalition, and I should be like "sure, cool, ok". Did you ever play a game with me before?
Nah you do you but I disagree with your assessment of Gry

This is certainly the first time in ages that I can remember you making it to Day 3
 

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Nah you do you but I disagree with your assessment of Gry

This is certainly the first time in ages that I can remember you making it to Day 3
That's all you have, besides "Gry thinking I'm sus"? So weren't you here when I was almost lynched yesterday by a hair with few people swearing that "if it's not Holt it's Evil" (for no apparent reason btw??). Which Mafia team in the right mind would night kill me on that very same night.
 

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I am still stuck at the office
I haven’t had the chance to quite go over the thread
Will try to read it through as when i have a bit of time
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I will try to comb over the thread a bit, in an hour or so i should be at home and able to post a bit
 

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This is all just an assumption without consideration of the other possibilities though. Unless you have a contradictory result then we can't be sure whether you're sane or otherwise. I'd also argue that just because you got the EVA from its first instance of det doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be sane, that's quite a leap of faith. I don't distrust that you've got the EVA but I do think there's holes in your reasoning.
my logic for that is

for det 1 and 2 you need to have a lot of MHT 7 and 6, and for that you need to bid less, so higher risk to lose the bet. So I'd asume the weird sanity would be for the next two which require less MHT 5-4, makes more sense then bidding a lot and getting 3-4th det positions and have those be sane ones
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YOOO! Could you like, breath in, breath out? Those are valid questions she asked.

You lied to protect your role, that makes sense as a townie. We don't know if you're mafia too though, since this role was up for grabs for everyone.

You do have a point that there was no pressure on you to reveal it, you chose to volunarily and it makes sense having two results.

As a mafia in this mechanic it would makes sense to just not reveal any results and deny town the det robot. It only make sense to mislead town, which right now kind of seems unlikely to me at least, unless you are trying to tie me and Demon together, because you expect me to be lynched today and clear him for the rest of the game. I don't see that you're pushing for my kill right now, so for me that is not an option either.
good point, didn't think of that but yes, i'd have only kept secret about it if i was doc mecha. Which is why I sus Sam. And Sammie coming after you, when I got an innocent result on you makes me think my theory of sanities on this eva 2 mech to be correct and the results accurate.

Which is also why I voted Sam, and which is also why I mentioned I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Imo releasing doc so i can be protected would be favorable, although I don't trust my next 2 dets so I wouldn't mind dying as much. And that's also why I decided to reveal now, no point in waiting 4 days when I have some decent info already.

I might be completely wrong, but the result seems to fit in well with how plays have been made on ppl's ends and how lynch directions are trying to be formed.
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Also, town Sam always explodes when I accuse him, same as Gry same as you Evil same as town Erin. He didn't (just like Erin didn't much eiter except saying she's "200%" town) he's being calm and calculated. And I also noticed one more thing. He is extremely behind Gry, agreeing with everything Gry says. Which makes me believe Gry is also town. I believe Mafia Sam would try to get on Town Gry's good side, whilst Town Sam would fear the possibility of Gry being mafia.

As for Gry, although I'd picture him going for the detective mecha, I see value in him picking hider, because he's usually a main night kill target. So him having hider would ensure he'd be safe for a while. I also imagine he probably thought mafia would go for detective and bid a lot and not to lose the bid and get no mecha.

I still don't trust him atm tho' precisely because of what I said town Sam would react, because that's me rn. I'm afraid that he's playing us all.
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and one more note on gry, I believe he mentioned getting hider D2 to ensure the Doc doesn't protect him and protects somebody else. And then Sam claiming Doc after him is yet another suspicious action.
 

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What are your thoughts behind this one?

That's all you have, besides "Gry thinking I'm sus"? So weren't you here when I was almost lynched yesterday by a hair with few people swearing that "if it's not Holt it's Evil" (for no apparent reason btw??). Which Mafia team in the right mind would night kill me on that very same night.
No, I've said before that I didn't like or agree with you pushing James up for the lynch yesterday regardless of his circumstances. And yes, I was here and no it's not for no apparent reason. You both have given off some unsavoury vibes and felt fake at times.

You do have a point that Mafia would be better off leaving you alive for a mislynch, assuming that you're town in that scenario.

my logic for that is

for det 1 and 2 you need to have a lot of MHT 7 and 6, and for that you need to bid less, so higher risk to lose the bet. So I'd asume the weird sanity would be for the next two which require less MHT 5-4, makes more sense then bidding a lot and getting 3-4th det positions and have those be sane ones
Thank you for explaining that. I see it differently to you but time will tell.

Which is also why I voted Sam, and which is also why I mentioned I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Imo releasing doc so i can be protected would be favorable, although I don't trust my next 2 dets so I wouldn't mind dying as much. And that's also why I decided to reveal now, no point in waiting 4 days when I have some decent info already.
If you mislynch me you don't get protection until Night 4 at the earliest and that's assuming Mafia don't get the mech.

Also, town Sam always explodes when I accuse him, same as Gry same as you Evil same as town Erin. He didn't (just like Erin didn't much eiter except saying she's "200%" town) he's being calm and calculated. And I also noticed one more thing. He is extremely behind Gry, agreeing with everything Gry says. Which makes me believe Gry is also town. I believe Mafia Sam would try to get on Town Gry's good side, whilst Town Sam would fear the possibility of Gry being mafia.

As for Gry, although I'd picture him going for the detective mecha, I see value in him picking hider, because he's usually a main night kill target. So him having hider would ensure he'd be safe for a while. I also imagine he probably thought mafia would go for detective and bid a lot and not to lose the bid and get no mecha.

I still don't trust him atm tho' precisely because of what I said town Sam would react, because that's me rn. I'm afraid that he's playing us all.
Oh brother 🤣🙄 I'm not blowing up at you because I see no good that could come from reprimanding you for any shonky takes and we all did get reminded by the hosts to be civil.
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and one more note on gry, I believe he mentioned getting hider D2 to ensure the Doc doesn't protect him and protects somebody else. And then Sam claiming Doc after him is yet another suspicious action.
Announcing I got an EVA is suspicious because it's EVA 05? Please make some sense
 

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Hi, am here now. Catching up and feeding myself rn
 

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I should probably stop taking shots at Gry while he’s sleeping. In some parallel world he might be town this game and I would feel bad at end plus look like an azzz.

@AnimePigeon, detective and doc in the open. What Eva are you?
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And prostitute too in open
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@Demonspeed, it wasn’t you who betted on revenge Eva then ejected?
Sorry, been asleep again.

I got the Thief Eva.

I targetted Tatsu both Nights so I could leech MHT from them and stop them from getting a EVA.
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Thought I had already voted Desin - I'm torn between voting Baka, Desin & Tatsu.

VoteKill! Baka
 

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Sorry, been asleep again.

I got the Thief Eva.

I targetted Tatsu both Nights so I could leech MHT from them and stop them from getting a EVA.
Jeez so you are the one bullying Tatsu, that's rough Pige 💀

That leaves two EVA that people haven't claimed
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Thought I had already voted Desin - I'm torn between voting Baka, Desin & Tatsu.

VoteKill! Baka
Lynching the Det EVA claim?? Do you think she is scum?
 

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If you mislynch me you don't get protection until Night 4 at the earliest and that's assuming Mafia don't get the mech.
Oh brother 🤣🙄 I'm not blowing up at you because I see no good that could come from reprimanding you for any shonky takes and we all did get reminded by the hosts to be civil.
Announcing I got an EVA is suspicious because it's EVA 05? Please make some sense
True, still like I said I don't mind dying now with the 2 left sannities i distrust.
Don't think that's stopped you before, plus I think I accused you before they reminded?
It's exactly like announcing in a regular game on D2 you have doctor? How does that not make sense?
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Sorry, been asleep again.

I got the Thief Eva.

I targetted Tatsu both Nights so I could leech MHT from them and stop them from getting a EVA.
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Thought I had already voted Desin - I'm torn between voting Baka, Desin & Tatsu.

VoteKill! Baka
aha, surely, so you're vouching for Tatsu's claiming she got her MHT stolen, noted.

And you're up for killing the det claim :))) good on you pidgeon.
 

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Oh my goooooood toooown why are all over the place agaiiin ???
5 votes on 5 different players, I know we're a lot so there are lots of suspects but...

Votekill Desin

I don't want a repeat of d1 and d2 flurry of votes at the end of day that always ends up in a dead townie.
 

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This will probably be my last post. I'll definitely not be there during the last hour/minutes.

Erin and Sakura got into an argument but since Erin said she bid 3 the latter must have won the coin flip so her claims still hold weight.

She was definitely Sane when she investigated me but after the MHT drop, a drop of sanity is to be expected probably? Evil didn't answer me when I asked hm how much he bid for the Eva too.
 
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