Games Mafia Game 127 - Neon Genesis Omongelion - End Game

[GrySun]

The Eva no one wanted has suddenly become much more important. It's interesting that the pilot chose to use his ability now when you can use them right after acquiring them.

Can you do some legwork for me and write a list of who had which mechs on which nights?

 

[Brandish μ]

Yes brief me demon on the latest

 

[GrySun]

@Farfalla @Copy Panda

Can ejections from mechs only happen at night? We lose 1 mind at day start. If this made you hit 0 mind at the start of a day, do you eject immediately? Or do you keep the mech still, and eject at the end of next night?

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We made a minor mistake on the cards; they say Ejection is P1 when they are really P4, the last thing to happen. The cards will be adjusted on the OP but please bear this fact in mind

Was it just a text mistake and you treated it like P4 all game, or did you eject with P1 like the text said and are now changing it?

 

[Brandish μ]

Hmm feels like the only application where prio matters for ejection is the detection of the Eva by Evils Eva?

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Or theft I guess

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Which is Marm now

 

[Demonspeed]

Can you do some legwork for me and write a list of who had which mechs on which nights?

In about 3 hours. I can't really do that right now.

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I got Eva 06 yesterday.

 

[GrySun]

Hmm feels like the only application where prio matters for ejection is the detection of the Eva by Evils Eva?

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Or theft I guess

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Which is Marm now

I was thinking regarding Vand‘s death could maybe matter, if he ejected before being killed or so.

 

[Brandish μ]

Or theft I guess

Trade eva

 

[GrySun]

Trade eva

Theft could bring you down to 0 and boot you out, or change your action. It is priority 2 for some reason, so majority of roles could get coinflipped and action changed by it.

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Am I tripping or didn‘t someone a day ago say they won a mech with only a low bid of 1? Who or what was that

 

[Brandish μ]

I was thinking regarding Vand‘s death could maybe matter, if he ejected before being killed or so.

If he bid 9mht D1, drops to 0 by start of D2, then:

• For prio 1 ejection, ejects then is shot
• For prio 4 ejection, is shot (which ejects him)

I don't think the prio change matters to vand death

 

[GrySun]

If he bid 9mht D1, drops to 0 by start of D2, then:

• For prio 1 ejection, ejects then is shot
• For prio 4 ejection, is shot (which ejects him)

I don't think the prio change matters to vand death

No way would he ever bid 9.

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Baka got two innocents on Evil and Demon. Options:

1. Both are town.
In favor: It is statistically more likely to pick 2 towns as Det than to pick 2 mafias.
Against: Evil being awfully scummy.

2. Both are mafia.
In favor: Evil is scummy, Demon is not exactly a shining example of good town that‘s easy to read as town.
Against: Demon‘s vote on Evil is absolute lunacy if both are mafia.

3. One is mafia one is town.
In favor: fits with Evil being scummy, fits with Demon‘s vote.
Against: sanities flipping every day make the Det borderline extremely anti-town in most scenarios hosts could predict for the game.

I‘d like to say the most likely options would also be ordered 1>2>3.

But I will consider both 1 and 2 for my upcoming player analysis, do potential scums for teams in both, and probably advocate for lynching the names that overlap among both lists.

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Like if we wanna go full candygame levels of crazy here, then I could maybe see an argument for

Same sanity Det
Same sanity Det
Different sanity Det
Different sanity Det

or

Same sanity Det
Same sanity Det
Same sanity Det
Different sanity Det

As the 4 Dets in EVA02 list. The latter is more likely, if they wanted to mess up the Det a bit to not be OP with inheritance, at most they should touch upon only one of the Dets, ideally the last one.

I will play following this logic. If somehow the first or second Det(which are the ones Baka used) have the one different sanity Det then RIP

 

[Crescent Jinx]

I like how everyone missed this, because you hid it among lots of other lines of text. Sadly we cant use that to check who is scum(skipping your post because they‘re not looking for mafias) or town(looking for mafias so they read your post), because it seems both town and mafia skipped reading it… Such poor playing by people

I think AP and Evil read it

 

[GrySun]

I think AP and Evil read it

You were picked up last night, and not by Vand, correct?

 

[Brandish μ]

No way would he ever bid 9.

Yea and he's not Jesus, thought cres or someone bid big.

Not sure what you're trying to figure out

 

[Demonspeed]

Wait, Jinx you are Mason? Not Mason Recruiter?

 

[GrySun]

Yea and he's not Jesus, thought cres or someone bid big.

Not sure what you're trying to figure out

I havent posted my detailed Vand post yet because I‘m waiting for host response. But mainly trying to figure out why he didn‘t revive, as it could help figure other things out.

That said, is there anything you are trying to figure out? You‘re playing extremely barebones, and all you said today was it‘s me and Sam because we‘re alive. Mafia kills so far, aside from Lawl, made a lot of sense.

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Ideally we kill the sickly/noble mafia, because if we mislynch again, next day they are pretty close to outvote town and win.

8v4 now. 6v4 after mislynch, where mafia has 5 votes and town 5.

 

[Brandish μ]

I havent posted my detailed Vand post yet because I‘m waiting for host response. But mainly trying to figure out why he didn‘t revive, as it could help figure other things out.

That said, is there anything you are trying to figure out? You‘re playing extremely barebones, and all you said today was it‘s me and Sam because we‘re alive. Mafia kills so far, aside from Lawl, made a lot of sense.

Ok gotcha

Yea I'll be/have been barebones, I'm even writing this stuff quick let alone reading over and over or note taking.

I group you two, Demon and Evil are grouped based on Baka, Marm and Pigeon feel grouped. Misha, Tatsu, Cres and Erin are more solo.

Baka was a priority but Sam is still here, you are still here. Vandred should be here instead of one of you.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

You were picked up last night, and not by Vand, correct?

Wait, Jinx you are Mason? Not Mason Recruiter?

Mason business is Mason business Either I’m the recruiter or the Mason.

But the press release is that we are not connected to Vandred. idk if that helps your reasoning Gry but you know my way of speaking

 

[GrySun]

Ok gotcha

Yea I'll be/have been barebones, I'm even writing this stuff quick let alone reading over and over or note taking.

I group you two, Demon and Evil are grouped based on Baka, Marm and Pigeon feel grouped. Misha, Tatsu, Cres and Erin are more solo.

Baka was a priority but Sam is still here, you are still here. Vandred should be here instead of one of you.

Why not approch it as, if X is town and alive, why?

I was never killable, especially if Sam is town. And if he isn‘t, I still wasn‘t a comfortable kill because it heavily looked like me baiting, with claiming my mech.

For Sam it is harder to understand why he was left alive, but still within reason. Roles get recycled with the mech, the usual logic with „why is doc still alive“ does not hold. They can keep him for mislynch + more predictable who Sam will protect over who an unknown new town Doctor will. And once he runs out of mind he disables doctor for a long time(by only healing mind) or until his lynch.

Only reason to kill Sam for mafia at all, would be to grab Doc mech on one of them.
At start of N2 DD was already dead. So of the remaining 4, most could already have their mechs, and any who didn‘t may have needed different mechs for their strat of actually winning. Such as the sickly/noble mech, or Banshee mech. Doctor becomes much less important. So best to leave it on the claimed player than it jumping around.

Your thought process is too simple. Hard to believe it‘s lack of time and not being scum that motivates you to not look too deep.

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Bran why would a townie hide their sickly and noble actions, at this stage of the game? And not claim?
Because it‘s on a mafia.

 

[Brandish μ]

Bran why would a townie hide their sickly and noble actions, at this stage of the game? And not claim?
Because it‘s on a mafia.

Yea I agree it's a mafia

 

[GrySun]

Mason business is Mason business Either I’m the recruiter or the Mason.

But the press release is that we are not connected to Vandred. idk if that helps your reasoning Gry but you know my way of speaking

Cres we are too close to losing for you to be playing these games. Out with info or we have a higher chance to mislynch.
If you are recruiter, it is far more important for you to share who you recruited because he is 100% town .
If you are not recruiter, I hope you know that they can be mafia. But if you believe they are town, sharing it would help make other reads on players.