Can we safely say V cannot gauge Urek?

[Ray Barracuda]

Exhibit A- Putting Urek on the same level as Gustang the first time and saying it would be difficult to take them both in his current body which would mean of course his prime would be able to handle it.

Exhibit B- Sees a little flex from Urek and then says even in his prime he can't guarantee anything of a win.

It's either we say V has bad senses or he can't feel how far Ureks sea goes same as Luslec from a first glance.


Eitherway, in the future we'll get an exhibit C to settle this I guess.

 

[Pro Factor]

I doubt it. He didn't see anything from Urek except one leg kick when he initially underestimated him and as soon as he saw his speed later on he was able to judge that even in his prime he can't guarantee a win. In fact he seems to realized his strength quite well based on the fact that he was very interested in Urek when running away with Luslec by saying "We have a very interesting guy in the tower now". In his prime he also was way stronger than other family frauds I would guess he can judge strength better than Clownstang and Traum.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I doubt it. He didn't see anything from Urek except one leg kick when he initially underestimated him and as soon as he saw his speed later on he was able to judge that even in his prime he can't guarantee a win. In fact he seems to realized his strength quite well based on the fact that he was very interested in Urek when running away with Luslec by saying "We have a very interesting guy in the tower now". In his prime he also was way stronger than other family frauds I would guess he can judge strength better than Clownstang and Traum.

Nah, even the revos could tell how strong Urek was just by him being there.

Top tier to top tier you can always feel it, Baam felt it upon first glance with Kallavan, White, Dumas, even the clown Yama before he surpassed him.

When one is exceedingly strong you can tell it in this manhwa, it's a presence thing that's constant.

If he couldn't feel it from first glance then there's something extremely off, even as a joke putting Urek equal with Gustang on your first look is highest level delusional cause I'm sure he saw him shatter Disconnection just before and was seeing him tango with Eurasia flames and disconnection just as he passed.

 

[Pro Factor]

Nah, even the revos could tell how strong Urek was just by him being there.

Top tier to top tier you can always feel it, Baam felt it upon first glance with Kallavan, White, Dumas, even the clown Yama before he surpassed him.

When one is exceedingly strong you can tell it in this manhwa, it's a presence thing that's constant.

If he couldn't feel it from first glance then there's something extremely off, even as a joke putting Urek equal with Gustang on your first look is highest level delusional cause I'm sure he saw him shatter Disconnection just before and was seeing him tango with Eurasia flames and disconnection just as he passed.

Revos could probably just tell he is by far the strongest, they couldn‘t determine his limit just like Luslec couldn’t. Not like I would expect bunch of nobodies who think they can replace Family Heads to actually be able to analyze someone of Ureks level. They just knew he was the absolute strongest there and decided to pack it up and run right away. V on the other hand climbed with great warriors he should be able to judge Urek much better than Rev army, but at the same time Urek isn‘t that much stronger than them as he is stronger than Rev army so I guess when power gap isn‘t as big it gets harder to analyze their power.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Revos could probably just tell he is by far the strongest, they couldn‘t determine his limit just like Luslec couldn’t. Not like I would expect bunch of nobodies who think they can replace Family Heads to actually be able to analyze someone of Ureks level. They just knew he was the absolute strongest there and decided to pack it up and run right away. V on the other hand climbed with great warriors he should be able to judge Urek much better than Rev army, but at the same time Urek isn‘t that much stronger than them as he is stronger than Rev army so I guess when power gap isn‘t as big it gets harder to analyze their power.

Hmm, guess so .

Ehn, in some weeks to maybe a year depending on how bad SIU blueballs us we'll know for sure eitherway.

For now that first impression left a bad taste, Gustang of all people.

 

[Lord V returned]

He gauged them fine. Urek is up there as FH level, slightly stronger. No biggie.

Even Urek being around Gustang/Traumerei isn't a proper gauge of power between those 3 as it's already been stated and should have been obvious from just looking at them, both the FHs were roughed up, in bad shape, tired. Gustang knows Urek and still thinks Urek is not capable ot just spam destroying a full power disconnect.

The only ones thinking Urek is way more powerful are his fans and Urek himself thinking he can take on Phantaminum of all people.

 

[Pro Factor]

He gauged them fine. Urek is up there as FH level, slightly stronger. No biggie.

Even Urek being around Gustang/Traumerei isn't a proper gauge of power between those 3 as it's already been stated and should have been obvious from just looking at them, both the FHs were roughed up, in bad shape, tired. Gustang knows Urek and still thinks Urek is not capable ot just spam destroying a full power disconnect.

The only ones thinking Urek is way more powerful are his fans and Urek himself thinking he can take on Phantaminum of all people.

Urek taking on Phantaminum is hilarious to think, but I guess they have no knowledge of Axis and I'm honestly not even sure axis is still a canon considering TUS is no longer a thing.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

I mean V didn't saw much of any urek's feat before his speed feat? So seeing urek's speed in comparison to his gave him a better understanding of his power level.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

And I am once again freaking vindicated in my predictions for Urek.


Man I'm on a roll since this spin-off started, makes me wonder how much luck out of my total for a lifetime i'm spending lulz .

 

[undefined]

He gauged them fine. Urek is up there as FH level, slightly stronger. No biggie.

Even Urek being around Gustang/Traumerei isn't a proper gauge of power between those 3 as it's already been stated and should have been obvious from just looking at them, both the FHs were roughed up, in bad shape, tired. Gustang knows Urek and still thinks Urek is not capable ot just spam destroying a full power disconnect.

The only ones thinking Urek is way more powerful are his fans and Urek himself thinking he can take on Phantaminum of all people.

That's the thing though. Urek is stronger than the FH's with shinsoo only lol(Urek doesn't even use any shinsoo related artifacts or weaponry on top of that either). It's definitely not a stretch to say Urek at full strength, so with his light powers, is a couple tiers above the fhs. Also, I'm almost sure that phantaminum is not an axis anymore, so it's not impossible for Urek to beat him anymore. Will he do it, i don't know, but it's possible now when it wasn't prior. I honestly don't even like Urek like that, his personality annoys the shit out of me, but whether you're a fan or not, his power is undeniable at this point.

 

[sho87]

End of series Bam will

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Urek without shiny powers = Prime V

Urek with shiny powers >> Prime V

Urek with Shiny powers = Full potential vaam.

 

[arrowofsky]

Urek without shiny powers = Prime V

Urek with shiny powers >> Prime V

Urek with Shiny powers = Full potential vaam.

I have yet to see the extend of the shiny power, what it can do, so I am not hyping prematurely

Urek without shiny powers < Prime V

Urek with shiny powers < Prime V

Urek with Shiny powers < Full potential vaam.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Urek with shiny powers < Prime V

This is pretty unlikely imo but I won't mind it

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 19, 2025, Original Post Date: Jun 12, 2025 ---

So did V sensed urek's light powers also or was he basing the comparison only on urek's shinsoo powers?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

So did V sensed urek's light powers also or was he basing the comparison only on urek's shinsoo powers?

Even the second floor Admin couldn't sense the power of Light within Urek.


Only person who noticed it straight up was Headon when he realized something was wrong with Urek.


So as of now, it's sure absolutely nobody in the Tower can sense it bar Headon.



Plus if V actually did sense it and thought he had a chance, then he's even dumber than Gustang.

 

[arrowofsky]

Even the second floor Admin couldn't sense the power of Light within Urek.


Only person who noticed it straight up was Headon when he realized something was wrong with Urek.


So as of now, it's sure absolutely nobody in the Tower can sense it bar Headon.



Plus if V actually did sense it and thought he had a chance, then he's even dumber than Gustang.

Man, you talk like we actually see the raw power of these Shiny power, what it can actually do and you are confident about them.
Additionally, we don't know what exactly made Headon think like that, it may be something other than Shiny power, if it is really shiny, then you should tend yourself towards the fact that ToG is more composed of dark powers, like the ones Phantaminum has, less than Shiny ones.

Be patient like Urek xD

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 19, 2025, Original Post Date: Jun 19, 2025 ---

So did V sensed urek's light powers also or was he basing the comparison only on urek's shinsoo powers?

V seemed to judge Urek's speed, which is one of his strongest side anyway, and also attack neutralizing punches, but not destructive power itself. I don't know if these are related to his Shiny attributes though.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Even the second floor Admin couldn't sense the power of Light within Urek.

I don't remember this. Panel? If anything it felt like admin was aware of it and hence allowed urek to fight dazon ranker.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Man, you talk like we actually see the raw power of these Shiny power, what it can actually do and you are confident about them.
Additionally, we don't know what exactly made Headon think like that, it may be something other than Shiny power, if it is really shiny, then you should tend yourself towards the fact that ToG is more composed of dark powers, like the ones Phantaminum has, less than Shiny ones.

Be patient like Urek xD

Narratively SIU has made Urek a proper protagonist he can break away from the Tower later on and use in continuing what he spoke about years ago about wanting to write more stories down the line other than TOG.


SIU is also setting the stage for Urek vs an Admin later on the main timeline, there's literally zero possible ways I'm getting ahead of myself here.



The stage has already been set, all we need now is for the conflict to start and so things can go haywire, maybe in season 4 or maybe in season 5.



Also I don't know what else could Headon possibly feel from Urek other than Light, that's literally all Urek is and all he has to offer.



And the Tower being a Dark place holds about as much weight as Luslec proclaiming himself like he's the Primordial Darkness itself.


Nothing in comparison to the real thing.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 19, 2025, Original Post Date: Jun 19, 2025 ---

I don't remember this. Panel? If anything it felt like admin was aware of it and hence allowed urek to fight dazon ranker.

Nah, he only sensed that Urek was from the outside and that's what gave him the confidence to allow the fight between a regular and a ranker.

Irregular status was all he sensed, Headon felt something different entirely.

 

[kkck]

Given how the side story has played out the impression I get is that odds are that the great warriors are simply not familiar with urek's shining powers or the actual properties of his shinsoo which seem to correlate to his shining powers. As in, it's not the actual shining powers but it is still a light based power with bizarre properties.

 

[VON]

The 10FH does not know it.

Arie Hon has a case of guessing it if his side comment from the blog is still canon. Which is more than likely the case. It originally did not make sense why he said Urek is much better when they fought to a tie. If he knew of Urek’s shining powers then that comment would make sense now.