Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 52 Spoilers & Discussion

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So "I want to kill Zahard" is not canon according to you? LOL

It's not denial; it's the truth. Him not interested in the tower politics is BS. You don't need to agree. But this is how it looks to me.

Also, I am confused; y'all love debating here as lore from this backstory, but you aren't willing to take SIU's word for it that he wanted to kill Zahard. LOL.
"I want to kill Zahard" is canon in this spin-off.

Urek said he isn't interested in Zahard in the main story.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Do we need to post pages from the story and post from SIU where it's clearly stated that Urek isn't interested in Zahard for the 1000th time?
 

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"I want to kill Zahard" is canon in this spin-off.
So I guess none of this shiny stuff matters in the main story since it's part of the spin-off? Ok, Demon. I gotchyu.
 

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In hell floor was stated that Garam wanted him to kill zahard but he wouldn’t. It could be that he can’t or he doesn’t want to, which doesn’t make sense with the current spinoff.
But since the season 2 is not consistent with the spin off (like UM and Garam first met) then we can’t assume anything.
 

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Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.
I remember what Ameuz said about her generation not being allowed to reach the top floor and that being part of the reason she went over to V and Arlene's side.

I think the Princess plan is part of the reason for the schism. Perhaps V and Arlene didn't agree because their Towerborn companions could not finish the climb this way?
 

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Idk why SIU has now given us 3 different versions of why and who started the princess games!!! At this point I guarantee if another character were tell the Enryu/thorn story it’d be entirely different from Garam’s story
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Eduan says Headon, Traum/Gus flashback says Zahard, and Garam said Gus!!!
--- Double Post Merged, ---

At this point we have no idea what Gustang has rewritten and what Eduan has chosen to forget!!! At least in Traum/Gus flashback, it was a REAL memory that we were seeing!!!
 

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Idk why SIU has now given us 3 different versions of why and who started the princess games!!! At this point I guarantee if another character were tell the Enryu/thorn story it’d be entirely different from Garam’s story
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Eduan says Headon, Traum/Gus flashback says Zahard, and Garam said Gus!!!
--- Double Post Merged, ---

At this point we have no idea what Gustang has rewritten and what Eduan has chosen to forget!!! At least in Traum/Gus flashback, it was a REAL memory that we were seeing!!!
Headon came up with the idea of making the GW descendants climb the Tower, Jahad came up with the idea of Princesses and giving them the 13 Months and Gustang came up with the idea of giving them Jahad's blood.
 

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Headon came up with the idea of making the GW descendants climb the Tower, Jahad came up with the idea of Princesses and giving them the 13 Months and Gustang came up with the idea of giving them Jahad's blood.
LOL NO. 3 of them never had a bloodline to begin with and most of them didn’t start their family yet!
 

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Urek accepting to kill Zahard even before learning about the ghost of the 13 months prank was unexpected. I also wonder why he never tried to retrieve all the 13 months himself.
 

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Urek accepting to kill Zahard even before learning about the ghost of the 13 months prank was unexpected. I also wonder why he never tried to retrieve all the 13 months himself.
Perhaps by the time he learned of it his interest has already died down and whatever deal Urek struck with the Family Heads and Zahard had been made.
 

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So I guess none of this shiny stuff matters in the main story since it's part of the spin-off? Ok, Demon. I gotchyu.
You aren't making any sense.

The OG Shinies are irrelevant in the main story, they never appeared. We only have Urek.

Urek is uninterested in Zahard in the main story.
 
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LOL NO. 3 of them never had a bloodline to begin with and most of them didn’t start their family yet!
The whole thing was still in the planning stages back then. We even see Traum say he'll start having kids for that purpose.

Plus we know they don't actually need to have physical kids to start a bloodline.
 

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I wonder if Edahn will show us something new in his fight with UM. Hopefully SIU shows us his main spear.
 

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I wonder if Edahn will show us something new in his fight with UM. Hopefully SIU shows us his main spear.
The moment I see this post I remembered you, @B.Nixus3 :) would you also like to see Eduan's main spear?

Btw, I think it is unlikely the two of them fighting, Urek is abusing him right now, and at the end of his use for him, with his shiny power or some asspull thing he will probably get rid of the tracer or sth.
 

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The moment I see this post I remembered you, @B.Nixus3 :) would you also like to see Eduan's main spear?

Btw, I think it is unlikely the two of them fighting, Urek is abusing him right now, and at the end of his use for him, with his shiny power or some asspull thing he will probably get rid of the tracer or sth.
What reason would Urek, someone who loves challenges have to not want to fight Eduan? He was excited to fight even Danzon when he thought the latter was much stronger.

Everything has been set up for a fight, the only issue is the timing.

SIU teasing it like this just for it to not happen would be ridiculous.
 

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The moment I see this post I remembered you, @B.Nixus3 :) would you also like to see Eduan's main spear?

Btw, I think it is unlikely the two of them fighting, Urek is abusing him right now, and at the end of his use for him, with his shiny power or some asspull thing he will probably get rid of the tracer or sth.
Edahn will lose all the respect of he loses the fight mid diff. I wonder if Edahn knows UM is an irregular if yes idk why he never said having an irregular inside the tower is chaos or maybe he will talk about Phanta and Enryu? Edahn: I always wanted to fight the new irregulars shame I could not fight Phanta or Enryu. Maybe UM might also ask how strong is this guy Jahad who is the king of tower compared to u?
 

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Edahn will lose all the respect of he loses the fight mid diff. I wonder if Edahn knows UM is an irregular if yes idk why he never said having an irregular inside the tower is chaos or maybe he will talk about Phanta and Enryu? Edahn: I always wanted to fight the new irregulars shame I could not fight Phanta or Enryu. Maybe UM might also ask how strong is this guy Jahad who is the king of tower compared to u?
Eduan obviously knows that Urek is an Irregular.
 

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Eduan obviously knows that Urek is an Irregular.
Seems like it as he says UM will be able to learn SD. And so far SD has been used by only Irregulars and the guardians
 

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What reason would Urek, someone who loves challenges have to not want to fight Eduan? He was excited to fight even Danzon when he thought the latter was much stronger.

Everything has been set up for a fight, the only issue is the timing.

SIU teasing it like this just for it to not happen would be ridiculous.
I am basing this on the fact that Urek was openly uninterested to fight Eduan in Eduan's first encounter with him, even if Eduan also stated that he killed Mago (so that Urek might have taken him more seriously). I agree that it is out of Urek's character, but he is also not randomly pick up folks "to see who is the strongest", not like your average Kenpachi. Furthermore, blogposts of millenia ago was like Eduan haven't fought Urek yet. SIU butchered blogposts in recent chapters here but I don't think he will go that far.
 

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I am basing this on the fact that Urek was openly uninterested to fight Eduan in Eduan's first encounter with him, even if Eduan also stated that he killed Mago (so that Urek might have taken him more seriously). I agree that it is out of Urek's character, but he is also not randomly pick up folks "to see who is the strongest", not like your average Kenpachi. Furthermore, blogposts of millenia ago was like Eduan haven't fought Urek yet. SIU butchered blogposts in recent chapters here but I don't think he will go that far.
He had bigger fishes to fry. There was Mago but also his friends's safety. Once he heard what Eduan said about Mago he flew to his friends.

I don't see how Urek fighting Eduan would be such a problem because of blog posts(which again are only really canon when confirmed in the series). It's not a big deal and he changed things more plot relevant like Yama's origins and Adori's bloodline.

At this point, it would be ridiculous for them to not have fought.
 
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