Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 52 Spoilers & Discussion

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Do you believe that Urek used less PoL than Mago against Aubryon when he was the source of the PoL in the first place and mentioned that she only had a tiny fraction of it? It's what is more important here.
What's strange about Urek's light is that he hit Mago v1 with it to decent success and claimed she was just lucky that he wasn't at full power yet and then a powered up version of that Mago got fodderized by Edhan. It doesn't really make much sense besides SIU wanting to draw somewhat close fights.
 

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10 years later it will still be on hiatus
And I will be there.
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What's strange about Urek's light is that he hit Mago v1 with it to decent success and claimed she was just lucky that he wasn't at full power yet and then a powered up version of that Mago got fodderized by Edhan. It doesn't really make much sense besides SIU wanting to draw somewhat close fights.
I mean, it's quite obvious that Urek ramps up as he fights. He also explained that he wasn't able to fully focus on fighting because of all the mysteries and issues in the Tower. Against Leo it was the same, he used more and more power during the fight.
 

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Do you believe that Urek used less PoL than Mago against Aubryon when he was the source of the PoL in the first place and mentioned that she only had a tiny fraction of it? It's what is more important here.
We are talking a tiny fraction of something allegedly infinite. I am not dying on any hills when it comes to math-ing that gibberish, least of all in a series where the author plays it very loose with wiggle room. Add to that, urek using more PoL against Aubrion than what mago had doesn't answer the question of how aubrion compares to mago with urek's light.
 

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We are talking a tiny fraction of something allegedly infinite

Yes for urek its infinite cuz he can generate light of his own cuz the guy is an axis while other shinies cannot do yet that doesn't mean that his pool is full

for example out of 100% right now maximum he can generate could be 30% maybe 40%
We dont know it but whatver he can generate its not 100% that's sure
 

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We are talking a tiny fraction of something allegedly infinite. I am not dying on any hills when it comes to math-ing that gibberish, least of all in a series where the author plays it very loose with wiggle room. Add to that, urek using more PoL against Aubrion than what mago had doesn't answer the question of how aubrion compares to mago with urek's light.
No matter how you want to understand the "infinite" part, a tiny fraction of Urek's "infinite" power is obviously below a bigger amount. Which is what Urek used against Aubryon.

Aubryon did rather well against Urek during the fight(CQC and at mid-range with Emperor) then got killed by SFOD. He had a transformation too. When Mago started using Urek's PoL, her Masenkos had the same colour as Urek and it was the tiny amount she was using. I already posted the difference before in earlier threads.

Mago can't possibly have had more power than Urek. Even in the arc, Aubryon instructed the last Angel to keep Urek's friends hostage until Mago's full recovery.

Aubryon and Emperor tanked several of Urek's PoL attacks. When Mago used her Masenkos, Eduan said it was dangerous and dodged it even in GoL mode.
 

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I just checked, it’s even worse than this. I’ve seen a few guys put Aubryon in the top towerborn tier lmfao.

I don't think any shining one is regent tier. With even a single drop of light they are capable of pushing fhs to high diff apparently (one of the strongest of them mind you)

REddit guy posted this




this guy who had posted this on reddit, he must be good at analysis surely LOL

after we do know that mago had tiny amount of ureks light
after we know that eduan in any way form or shape was afraid of that tiny amount of light

after we do know that eduan cared about light (never allowed it to touch him)
after we do know that urek destroyed using much more light against emperor guy to destroy him
after urek used whatver light he had against aubrion yet aubrion tanked it easily didn't even care LOL


and after all these things guys think that aubrion is below fh ? LOL
seems urek is also below fh then ? urek who killed aubrion ? yet at the same time mago 99% killed eduan LOL barely escaped death just one hit and eduan would be toast LOL


but we must be good at analysis yeah LOL

and this proves that urek must be below fh also and not even regent tier :hee
cuz urek who use much more light against aubrion compared to whatevr mago use against eduan with that light he couldn't kill aubrion which is a big proof that urek msut be weaker than fh and regents also yet at the same time eduan was afraid of tiny amount of it , its a big proof LOL


:smile-big
 

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I mean, there's no way to make sense of fractions of infinity here or in general. Half of infinity is, well, infinity. 1% of infinity is also infinity. Of course, mago took a mere finite amount of light from urek but how much that is or how it compares to other folk's light (except urek's) is anyone's guess. Urek may have infinite light but within the confines of the tower (or elsewhere) that translating to infinite PL is not necessarily the case.
 

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I don't think any shining one is regent tier. With even a single drop of light they are capable of pushing fhs to high diff apparently (one of the strongest of them mind you)

REddit guy posted this




this guy who had posted this on reddit, he must be good at analysis surely LOL

after we do know that mago had tiny amount of ureks light
after we know that eduan in any way form or shape was afraid of that tiny amount of light

after we do know that eduan cared about light (never allowed it to touch him)
after we do know that urek destroyed using much more light against emperor guy to destroy him
after urek used whatver light he had against aubrion yet aubrion tanked it easily didn't even care LOL


and after all these things guys think that aubrion is below fh ? LOL
seems urek is also below fh then ? urek who killed aubrion ? yet at the same time mago 99% killed eduan LOL barely escaped death just one hit and eduan would be toast LOL


but we must be good at analysis yeah LOL

and this proves that urek must be below fh also and not even regent tier :hee
cuz urek who use much more light against aubrion compared to whatevr mago use against eduan with that light he couldn't kill aubrion which is a big proof that urek msut be weaker than fh and regents also yet at the same time eduan was afraid of tiny amount of it , its a big proof LOL


:smile-big
Emperor seemed much more powerful than eduan LOL cuz emperor tanked at least light based attacks LOL he wasn't afraid of it
 

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I mean, there's no way to make sense of fractions of infinity here or in general. Half of infinity is, well, infinity. 1% of infinity is also infinity. Of course, mago took a mere finite amount of light from urek but how much that is or how it compares to other folk's light (except urek's) is anyone's guess. Urek may have infinite light but within the confines of the tower (or elsewhere) that translating to infinite PL is not necessarily the case.
Urek simply doesn't have infinite power. At best he can generate Light infinitely. He is weaker than Phanta too.

Even now he is nerfed, he hasn't recovered his power and the Shinies stole his PoL before. How could they have stolen something infinite?
 

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Urek simply doesn't have infinite power. At best he can generate Light infinitely. He is weaker than Phanta too.
The only way i can be convinced that urek is weaker than him , if penta is someway connected to urek otherwise there is no way penta would leave him like that

penta doesn't even want new axis to be born which means he either shall kill urek or enslave him but he did neither ... or unless he cannot do it
so there's that and ther eis no way urek is weaker than penta ... whatver penta did urek can do also to any shinies so penta did nothing what urek cannot do , and surely penta couldn't kill all shinies at the same time , he enslaved them one by one


and as for urek he can generate his power infinitely surely, so the moment he uses his power it starts regenerating immediately for sure its like shinso, shinsoo is there 24/7/365 but eduan gets tired so you may use that as an example
 

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We are talking a tiny fraction of something allegedly infinite. I am not dying on any hills when it comes to math-ing that gibberish, least of all in a series where the author plays it very loose with wiggle room. Add to that, urek using more PoL against Aubrion than what mago had doesn't answer the question of how aubrion compares to mago with urek's light.
Urek is the one who's got infinite Light in him.

He verbatim stated that he gave a tiny bit of it to Mago.

Mago didn't absorb or take enough for the Light to be infinite or self generating, that's literally why it ran out in the first place.
 

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Urek simply doesn't have infinite power. At best he can generate Light infinitely. He is weaker than Phanta too.

Even now he is nerfed, he hasn't recovered his power and the Shinies stole his PoL before. How could they have stolen something infinite?
To me the mechanics of how urek's light works, if he is an axis or how the scaling in general works is not clear. I do agree in that phanta is stronger than him (though as I understand this it's more like phanta is a tier above urek).

Urek's light may well work as you suggest though I wouldn't put money on any given take yet. When it comes to axis, if urek even is one, power levels are BS. Conventionally infinity is math breaking nonsense (at least to a mere mortal like me) but for all I know an axis can benchpress infinity plus one.

For me the question of how full power aubrion compares to mago enhanced with urek's light is essentially unknowable. I even stress that we don't even know how exactly urek's light made mago stronger. was she stronger than her supposed prime? Or was she at her prime for as long as the light lasted? Would eduan have been able to trade blows with her if she drew some other gem?
 

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To me the mechanics of how urek's light works, if he is an axis or how the scaling in general works is not clear. I do agree in that phanta is stronger than him (though as I understand this it's more like phanta is a tier above urek).

Urek's light may well work as you suggest though I wouldn't put money on any given take yet. When it comes to axis, if urek even is one, power levels are BS. Conventionally infinity is math breaking nonsense (at least to a mere mortal like me) but for all I know an axis can benchpress infinity plus one.

For me the question of how full power aubrion compares to mago enhanced with urek's light is essentially unknowable. I even stress that we don't even know how exactly urek's light made mago stronger. was she stronger than her supposed prime? Or was she at her prime for as long as the light lasted? Would eduan have been able to trade blows with her if she drew some other gem?
We can speculate about Urek's status endlessly but the scaling here is pretty simple.

  1. Mago stole a tiny amount of Urek's Light.
  2. This was the one attack Eduan was wary even in GoL. He said it was dangerous the moment he saw it.
  3. Urek used much more PoL against Aubryon and despite this Aubryon gave him his best fight yet.
So, Aubryon is superior to Mago via feats. It would also make no sense to me if a Shiny at full power would lose to a Shiny not at her prime with just a tiny amount of Urek's PoL.

Mago was obviously not beyond her prime or at her prime(the condition for her reaching her prime was mentioned in Chapter 25) and Aubryon was banking on full power Mago, not her self who lost to Eduan. Even Eduan said she wasn't at full power.

It's a battle shonen and this is something pretty simple. Mago will reach her full power sooner or later and fight Urek.
 
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Oh Jesus man, Reddit is fucking glorious.

I know damn well we bout to start seeing some of the greatest Admin downscale attempts the very moment Urek beats one while also somehow trying to leech off it somehow as per the status quo.
:yodawg


Honestly the chokehold Urek's got on our brothers over there is wild :feelsgoodman
 

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Oh Jesus man, Reddit is fucking glorious.

I know damn well we bout to start seeing some of the greatest Admin downscale attempts the very moment Urek beats one while also somehow trying to leech off it somehow as per the status quo.
:yodawg


Honestly the chokehold Urek's got on our brothers over there is wild :feelsgoodman
He is preparing to fight the admin of the 135th floor
 

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He is preparing to fight the admin of the 135th floor
I dont think urek would ever fight that admin (maybe he will fight other ones if urek will be forced to), that is for baam to do and there is no way any admin is hostile to any irregular or to even reuglars , cuz hedon guy is there to regulate admins and to control them , no rule can stop hedon if he ever wanted to do anything and hedon is way above than any floor guardian maybe 10 times more powerful than any admin


when baam will have a thorn then he easily will do tests , unless the test of 135th floor is something like "kill everyone and be only one" ... in that case maybe someone will fight an admin otherwise there is no purpose to fight them and to ruin whole floor even if you kill that admin
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It's a battle shonen and this is something pretty simple. Mago will reach her full power sooner or later and fight Urek.
Mago is ureks rachel
 

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I dont think urek would ever fight that admin (maybe he will fight other ones if urek will be forced to), that is for baam to do and there is no way any admin is hostile to any irregular or to even reuglars , cuz hedon guy is there to regulate admins and to control them , no rule can stop hedon if he ever wanted to do anything and hedon is way above than any floor guardian maybe 10 times more powerful than any admin


when baam will have a thorn then he easily will do tests , unless the test of 135th floor is something like "kill everyone and be only one" ... in that case maybe someone will fight an admin otherwise there is no purpose to fight them and to ruin whole floor even if you kill that admin
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Mago is ureks rachel
But Urek doesn't know that Baam is the MC, he must be planning something past the 134F with Wolhaiksong, now we got new princess lore that framed them as people capable of climbing further to add to Urek not wanting the FH's to die yet in S3 etc.
 

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We can speculate about Urek's status endlessly but the scaling here is pretty simple.

  1. Mago stole a tiny amount of Urek's Light.
  2. This was the one attack Eduan was wary even in GoL. He said it was dangerous the moment he saw it.
  3. Urek used much more PoL against Aubryon and despite this Aubryon gave him his best fight yet.
So, Aubryon is superior to Mago via feats. It would also make no sense to me if a Shiny at full power would lose to a Shiny not at her prime with just a tiny amount of Urek's PoL.

Mago was obviously not beyond her prime or at her prime(the condition for her reaching her prime was mentioned in Chapter 25) and Aubryon was banking on full power Mago, not her self who lost to Eduan. Even Eduan said she wasn't at full power.

It's a battle shonen and this is something pretty simple. Mago will reach her full power sooner or later and fight Urek.
I went through chapter 25 but didn't find anything in particular about her prime. She did in fact awake prematurely and regained more powerful as the story advanced up until she was defeated.

Mago stole a tiny amount of light but it was still enough for her to at least think it was the real deal. I am not sure of why anyone would assume her at this point would be particularly weaker or stronger than at previous unknown/hypothetical points. We never saw her prior to being dominated by phanta and we haven't even been told how light based combat works (contrary to shinsoo of which we have a fair amount of detail).
 

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I went through chapter 25 but didn't find anything in particular about her prime. She did in fact awake prematurely and regained more powerful as the story advanced up until she was defeated.

Mago stole a tiny amount of light but it was still enough for her to at least think it was the real deal. I am not sure of why anyone would assume her at this point would be particularly weaker or stronger than at previous unknown/hypothetical points. We never saw her prior to being dominated by phanta and we haven't even been told how light based combat works (contrary to shinsoo of which we have a fair amount of detail).
The fact SIU used Edhuan to indirectly flat out state he could feel she wasn't at full power.


Plus it was also set-up quite clearly the procedures Mago needed to go through to achieve her original strength, those three jewels aren't going anywhere until they break.
 
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