Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 53 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

Enjoy turtles

 

[O_n_Sly]

It's not the same thing at all. She sees paths and Emily can counter her.

Nah she knows how to read shinsu too, she’s outsmarted many characters and guides with that ability

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

We know the Thorn is an empty vessel that needs a soul in it to use it's power like a Ignition Weapon

This makes the theory that Enryu used the thorn more convincing. No god would send a hollow weapon. There's a high chance thorn got dead after fighting with the guardian and why and how it was broken into 4 shards in the first place.

 

[Demonspeed]

Baam didn't get Blue Thryssa by accident, it was put into him on the 2nd Floor, so he could ignite the Thorn.



Horyang has a demon, which is highly likely to be yet another Admin fragment, like the thyrssas or the demon that spoke to White.

He got the Exoskeleton via FUG experiment, but the Blue Thryssa got caught by him while he was climbing. SIU said it.

Horyang being able to house an Admin would be ridiculous. They manifest the power injected in them, but they don't need anything else, because they are the host hence the name: Living Ignition Weapon. They ignite themselves.

Nah she knows how to read shinsu too, she’s outsmarted many characters and guides with that ability

Baek is using some rare Shinsoo skill for this, Hwa Ryun is using Red Witch hax Guide power. She seems extremely good at it, but it's still not the same.

This makes the theory that Enryu used the thorn more convincing. No god would send a hollow weapon. There's a high chance thorn got dead after fighting with the guardian and why and how it was broken into 4 shards in the first place.

SIU said the Thorn isn't sentient, it had nothing inside. Enryu must have used the Thorn but I don't believe he needed it to defeat an Admin.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

SIU said the Thorn isn't sentient

Is it the whole thorn, seemed to be 1st thorn only? Iirc he said that when we believed it was that one thorn fragment is the whole or complete thorn. Also didn't Second thorn activate on its own in HF?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Also didn't Second thorn activate on its own in HF?

Oh yeah this did happen, i keep forgetting it somehow.

 

[Demonspeed]

Is it the whole thorn, seemed to be 1st thorn only? Iirc he said that when we believed it was that one thorn fragment is the whole or complete thorn. Also didn't Second thorn activate on its own in HF?

Baam absorbs powers without even being aware of it. Why would you believe that the Thorn, which has nothing inside, activated without Baam doing something somehow?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Baam absorbs powers without even being aware of it. Why would you believe that the Thorn, which has nothing inside, activated without Baam doing something somehow?

Because he was unconscious. Activating a weapon and absorbing powers are different. Would that thorn is not sentinent be considered BP?

 

[Demonspeed]

Because he was unconscious. Activating a weapon and absorbing powers are different. Would that thorn is not sentinent be considered BP?

He absorbs things while conscious and he doesn't even know about it. How is it any different? That's how he got the Red Thryssa.

The only being who was in Baam's Inner World that Baam didn't know was V. And the conditions for his awakening hadn't been met. If there was something in the Thorn he would have seen it already.

Baam gets a lot of moments were things just happen to conveniently work for him. It's mostly accepted because he is an Irregular but not everything is solidly written.

 

[Epic_Rider]

He got the Exoskeleton via FUG experiment, but the Blue Thryssa got caught by him while he was climbing. SIU said it.

Hmm, wasn't aware of that. Is that from a blogspot?

Doesn't really change the point though.

Horyang being able to house an Admin would be ridiculous. They manifest the power injected in them, but they don't need anything else, because they are the host hence the name: Living Ignition Weapon. They ignite themselves.

An Admin fragment not an Admin itself obviously.

They're called Living Ignition Weapons because their bodies have been turned into the weapon that hosts the soul necessary for ignition.

This differs from the parasitism that Hell Joe experienced because there's no risk of getting the body taken over.

 

[Lonatian]

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[Demonspeed]

Hmm, wasn't aware of that. Is that from a blogspot?

Doesn't really change the point though.

Yes, as Baam climbed and got new powers, the BT entered into him.

An Admin fragment not an Admin itself obviously.

They're called Living Ignition Weapons because their bodies have been turned into the weapon that hosts the soul necessary for ignition.

This differs from the parasitism that Hell Joe experienced because there's no risk of getting the body taken over.

That's still a fragment of an Admin though. I don't believe that Horyang could host something that powerful. You mentioned Hell Joe yourself and we saw how a noncombatant like him was able to become such a threat.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

https://mangabuff.ru/manga/urek-magino/1/53


Chapter is out in Russian from that ssme site.

 

[Demonspeed]

Making fingerprints appear with Shinsoo...

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Making fingerprints appear with Shinsoo...

Would be the most accomplished detective of all time from a real world perspective.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

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Detective Baek is here. Re reading the TL, if shinsu tells him information, is that how he got the info on RLD and boss?

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He absorbs things while conscious and he doesn't even know about it. How is it any different? That's how he got the Red Thryssa.

The only being who was in Baam's Inner World that Baam didn't know was V. And the conditions for his awakening hadn't been met. If there was something in the Thorn he would have seen it already.

Baam gets a lot of moments were things just happen to conveniently work for him. It's mostly accepted because he is an Irregular but not everything is solidly written.

Once again, powers and weapons are different. I don't see Rosario acting on its own to save Dumas since it's not sentient, but BM/GA can save Yuri on its own to save Dumas because it's sentinent or has a soul. Unless thorn is programmed to save his life or when Jahad is near.

 

[Demonspeed]

Once again, powers and weapons are different. I don't see Rosario acting on its own to save Dumas since it's not sentient, but BM/GA can save Yuri on its own to save Dumas because it's sentinent or has a soul. Unless thorn is programmed to save his life or when Jahad is near.

And as I said we know that the Thorn has nothing inside and Baam never saw anything.

What's the issue with Baam igniting the second fragment unconsciously when we know that he can absorb things unconsciously? Sleepwalking is a thing IRL but can you eat something, when you are wide awake (closest thing to what Baam does) without yourself being aware of it?

When did a 13MS do something on their own like that? They can chat with the wielders but they can't do anything by themselves.

The souls inside these weapons have also been seen. It's not the case for the Thorn.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

What's the issue with Baam igniting the second fragment unconsciously when we know that he can absorb things unconsciously

Because these are fundamentally 2 different things.

They can chat with the wielders but they can't do anything by themselves

Iirc they can decide not to ignite even when the wielders want to ignite. It's with their consent 13 MS are ignited.

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It was same when 1st thorn popped up when tiara tried to grab night

 

[Ignorant]

Part 1

 

[Demonspeed]

Because these are fundamentally 2 different things.

Still two unconscious actions. It's weirder to not be unaware that you did something when you were wide awake.

Iirc they can decide not to ignite even when the wielders want to ignite. It's with their consent 13 MS are ignited.

Yuri had that issue but a 13MS can't ignite on its own and fight by itself. The weapons you mentioned also have souls that we saw. The Thorn has no soul inside.

It was same when 1st thorn popped up when tiara tried to grab night

What I said about Baam getting away with plot convenient stuff. He "downloaded" Gustang's book through touch but the content was still in somehow, he can nullify Spells touching White does nothing, he stopped Rak with a touch, stopped Yuri's control by looking at her etc.

In defense of what happened against Tiara however, there is no reason to believe that he didn't ignite it by himself. He knew what was happening.

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Part 1

Wow, welcome back!

 

[Ignorant]

Part 2

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Part 3 ( end of the chapter)