Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Rigel]

That is not how illusions work, they don’t stop spells, otherwise Erza would revert back to her regular armor when Midnight cast his or Natsu’s flames would have gone out with other illusions too, they just mess with perception, nothing more. And that required multiple people to do, not by herself, that we can agree on.

That is not how the spell works. It causes the ground to swell upward and burst form the ground, those are just loose stray pebbles and the surface is flatish.

https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest/0078-014.png

Nothing states that it did though, as He said his magic power outstripped it’s limits, meaning his limits are still there so his physical stats would remain as they are. The fact that his spirit and body separated showed there is a disconnect and lack of a physical boost at least, otherwise he wouldn’t have easily gone down from Erza’s sword barrage. Considering she saved Lucy is a convenience to use someone else to do it too, and not even her stronger dress too which makes sense since Aquarius is a bad match for Merc. Considering that Historia GS could make Gildarts bleed is impressive in of itself, that is just magic spells, not physical since she can affect even Natsu still as he was ready to battle still.


And you are the one claiming Lucy Brandish are on the same level when Lucy’s portrayals against dragon citizens and glass girl said otherwise.

I can, Jellal opened the atmosphere itself and called projectiles down from the stars in seconds, astronomically (lol) greater than his standard spell that are just usually hanging above his opponents. Hax wise sure, yet in a dragonized state, they didn’t even cause the ground to collapse into an underground water reservoir.

No, no, let's go back to your argument that ordinary citizens > Luso Dragonized and Kiria. I'm very interested in your justifications, in how you manage to bring the actions of ordinary citizens into this discussion; after all, you stated this and it's a basis for your arguments.

So, creating a crack in the ground is a feat superior to that shown by the Signario Sisters when facing Natsu, Gray, Lucy, Wendy, and Erza.

I understand, that makes a lot of sense; it's impressive logic.

 

[WoWfan]

No, no, let's go back to your argument that ordinary citizens > Luso Dragonized and Kiria. I'm very interested in your justifications, in how you manage to bring the actions of ordinary citizens into this discussion; after all, you stated this and it's a basis for your arguments.

So, creating a crack in the ground is a feat superior to that shown by the Signario Sisters when facing Natsu, Gray, Lucy, Wendy, and Erza.

I understand, that makes a lot of sense; it's impressive logic.

Did they break apart massive amount of earth that they revealed water underground? I only brought up the Dragonized citizens, God brought up the sisters.

The Best the sisters did was create a small crater, analyzing the fight sequence that is pretty much small scale stuff for F&F, opening up the earth is dozens to a hundred meters deep for a massive water reservoir With a coral reef.

thank you.

 

[Darklord#10]

I'm curious to find out how low you can sink with this level of argument

S12 fans MOST ESPECIALLY WOWFAN can sink lower. This is light work. I mean same group of people have literally argued that Eileen is the strongest character in fairy tail.

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Till this day s12 fans believe Eileen never showed her true full power

 

[WoWfan]

coming from the same guy who believes Mira loses to Kyria who the former defeated the person that destroyed Aldoron’s body.

utterly laughable.

 

[Darklord#10]

Let's see terrible s12 arguments
Eileen vs acnologia( human and dragon form) they believe Eileen wins
Eileen vs the dragon gods (human and dragon form) they believe Eileen wins
Eileen vs igneel, they believe Eileen wins
Erza vs dragon Force natsu, they used to believe Erza wins
Larcade was weaker than brandish and dimaria.
Third origin sherria was gildarts level but not WSD sting.
Eileen still hasn't showed her full power yet
Characters don't grow stronger ()

 

[WoWfan]

Wow, your last minute post of Larcade being weaker than Brandish and Dimaria is truly terrible. Good thing i don’t take you seriousl.

 

[Steven]

Larcade was top 3 SP12 for a reason.Larcade already defeated Gildarts without even fighting him.

 

[GodSlayer666]

That is not how illusions work, they don’t stop spells, otherwise Erza would revert back to her regular armor when Midnight cast his or Natsu’s flames would have gone out with other illusions too, they just mess with perception, nothing more. And that required multiple people to do, not by herself, that we can agree on.

They don't stop already casted spells, but we didn't saw the team being affected by the enchantment before Wendy being turned into a jellyfish by the illusion, so the enchantment wasn't casted yet.

That is not how the spell works. It causes the ground to swell upward and burst form the ground, those are just loose stray pebbles and the surface is flatish.
https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest/0078-014.png

hey here is just denial. It's not because she made more damage in other scenario that she is doing no damage here. And it's not even completeky fletish

Nothing states that it did though, as He said his magic power outstripped it’s limits, meaning his limits are still there so his physical stats would remain as they are. The fact that his spirit and body separated showed there is a disconnect and lack of a physical boost at least, otherwise he wouldn’t have easily gone down from Erza’s sword barrage. Considering she saved Lucy is a convenience to use someone else to do it too, and not even her stronger dress too which makes sense since Aquarius is a bad match for Merc. Considering that Historia GS could make Gildarts bleed is impressive in of itself, that is just magic spells, not physical since she can affect even Natsu still as he was ready to battle still.

Magical boost usually boost everything, the exceptions we know about magic power and physical stats are with the hax merchant whose stats are already natural. Acno also jobbed to Makarov in Tenrou, he can be moved as long as there is no damage involved. She could affect Natsu because his power varies, but Brandish gigantifcation boost is better boost than any of Irene's boosts and nobody is trying to claim that Brandish is stronger than Irene because of that

coming from the same guy who believes Mira loses to Kyria who the former defeated the person that destroyed Aldoron’s body.

utterly laughable.

Hey, hey, believing that Daemon did anything to Aldoron's true body is the utterly laughable take. Don't know which part of Aldoron trolled demons with decoys you and Loke didn't got. You even trying to claim that Lucy couldn't reach spriggan level with her power growth, but want to convince people that Mirajane powercreeped Skullion to the point of being relative to a Dragon God with something confirmed to have been just Aldoron deception. If anything Mira performance with Daemon should confirm that Lucy is spriggan level alongside Mira and diabolos. Mirajane defeated Daemon with no new power up, she had Allegria to fight Skullion and even she didn't used she wasn't sure if she would win even with that. Skullion should be comparable to Kyria and therefore Kyria and Lucy are comparable to Mira

Larcade was top 3 SP12 for a reason.Larcade already defeated Gildarts without even fighting him.

Even Irene and Zeref were affected by pleasure and nobody is saying that Larcade is stronger than them. In a straight fight Larcade hax can be countered by pain so someone physically weaker than WSDM Sting wouldn't be able to handle Gildarts level mages

 

[WoWfan]

They don't stop already casted spells, but we didn't saw the team being affected by the enchantment before Wendy being turned into a jellyfish by the illusion, so the enchantment wasn't casted yet.



hey here is just denial. It's not because she made more damage in other scenario that she is doing no damage here. And it's not even completeky fletish

Magical boost usually boost everything, the exceptions we know about magic power and physical stats are with the hax merchant whose stats are already natural. Acno also jobbed to Makarov in Tenrou, he can be moved as long as there is no damage involved. She could affect Natsu because his power varies, but Brandish gigantifcation boost is better boost than any of Irene's boosts and nobody is trying to claim that Brandish is stronger than Irene because of that



Hey, hey, believing that Daemon did anything to Aldoron's true body is the utterly laughable take. Don't know which part of Aldoron trolled demons with decoys you and Loke didn't got. You even trying to claim that Lucy couldn't reach spriggan level with her power growth, but want to convince people that Mirajane powercreeped Skullion to the point of being relative to a Dragon God with something confirmed to have been just Aldoron deception. If anything Mira performance with Daemon should confirm that Lucy is spriggan level alongside Mira and diabolos. Mirajane defeated Daemon with no new power up, she had Allegria to fight Skullion and even she didn't used she wasn't sure if she would win even with that. Skullion should be comparable to Kyria and therefore Kyria and Lucy are comparable to Mira

Even Irene and Zeref were affected by pleasure and nobody is saying that Larcade is stronger than them. In a straight fight Larcade hax can be countered by pain so someone physically weaker than WSDM Sting wouldn't be able to handle Gildarts level mages

It is because the scene was focused on Wendy and her dilemma after. here is an example of Wendy using enchantment and it doesn’t show Erza being affected.

https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0513-006.png

Again, that is not how the spell works, it inflates the ground and bursts upward. I said flatish for a reason, that is very much likely for visual to emphasize intensity of a scene like lense curvature.

Magic would usually boost what is given, like Taurus form gives Lucy strength boost and a wizard had to master a magic to break bones neglects physical build up. Magic power usually ties to physical stats but if they can’t contain and utilize more Magic power than they can handle it causes negative affects, Wendy if Irene wasn’t cooperative, Ultear in her youth born with too much Magic power, Natsu’s excessive fights which would have led to cancer, etc.. Acno can’t be damaged regardless if it’s physical since physical attacks contained magic as GMG games showed during the MPF test. Sure Natsu’s power varies but he was battle ready to take on Brandish at the time too. Considering she can’t affect people stronger than her would show that Irene is capable of more, and her summoning a meteor large enough to form a burst next to the curvature of the earth from space or shaping a continent sized country is more impressive than what Brandish had shown.

considering that Aldoron has powers over plants which equates to life and which allows his seeds to regenerate in a nerfed state would make sense he can regenerate in a full power state too. The only real troll move that happened is the Lacrima they crushed is a fake iirc. As I said, though we cannot say how long it took to destroy Aldoron, his body was destroyed regardless. And considering Diabolos did nothing to a Full Power DG, I doubt they scale to that regard and have done nothing since. Mira doesn’t go all out as long as there are other people around to see her as that is how she fights.

 

[GodSlayer666]

It is because the scene was focused on Wendy and her dilemma after. here is an example of Wendy using enchantment and it doesn’t show Erza being affected.

https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0513-006.png

Irene didn't tried to stop Wendy from boosting Erza, differently from Raj's illusion.

Again, that is not how the spell works, it inflates the ground and bursts upward. I said flatish for a reason, that is very much likely for visual to emphasize intensity of a scene like lense curvature.

It wasn't so intense but still showed the floor damaged. Less damage is not no damage at all.

And Natsu was so battle ready that he just said that he would fight with his back to her in a distance of few meters. He was just giving her a warning, not really battle ready. And even a broken bones Alvarez Erza can break Irene meteor.

He wasn't regenarating from Natsu and we didn't saw anything of what happened in the oracion sechs vs Aldoron, all we know is that Aldoron reappeared better than he ever was and fooled them with a decoy lacrima, no reason to think a Skullion level demon is any relative to Aldoron. It's Daemon who don't scale to that regard, she lost to just Mira who you have no proof that got any stronger.

 

[WoWfan]

Yet Wendy did stop Irene from disenchanting Erza with a disenchant of her own and both did not show any visual effects. Raj doesn’t have magi nullifying effects, it is simply illusions. It was intense which is the point. And besides the ground is uneven anyway,https://imgur.com/gallery/12KGAdP#TIxImxw. Plus it’s light, since it has two attributes one would work at least. It just moved the stray stones. He was paying attention to and looking at her, he had his back to multiple enemies before like Naked Mummy and Fire Sword dude and that didn’t stop him from being combat ready without having to pay attention. He even is instinctive enough to know the nature of a magic that is bad to dodge at the last second like with Yuka the Wave-Motion. A warning is being combat ready, which is why nations have a show of force to have enemies back off. Erza had a combination of Irene’s enchantment from Wendy, fire pants which converts MP to offensive, PoF and her one arm is still good. Natsu overpowered Aldoron the first time and killed his nerfed state. The second time Natsu was overpowering him too and his Lacrima was destroyed so he can’t come back. He was regrowing from the very earth itself, regeneration is basically like plants growing branches or leaves. Which is why I said the destruction was happening overtime at best. Which means the destruction is real as it is a decoy Lacrima, not that it disappeared like the other lacrimas for the other DGs. And Skullion along with his guild were taken down while OS demons were not. If they were relative to Diabolos then why would Aldoron disappear and not just crush them? Unless he couldn’t.

 

[Steven]

They are very obviously treated as the peak "humans"

Still wonder how strong Georg was on a grand scale.We know he was stronger as Suzaku

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Regular Lucy isn't at the Spriggan level of magic power; she probably gets close to this level of magic power when she uses Gemini X Aquarius starmix, or another starmix of similar strength as Gemini X Aquarius.
Sai's alchemia can turn people into whatever he made them think. He can even turn his target into someone stronger than the target, and that is exactly what Gray was trying to do by suggesting that Lucy think about Mirajane. He, Sai, believes "rivals" are equally strong and that women are weaker than men, but his power is clearly "turn a person into whatever this person is thinking", and the way his power works is explained in chapter 148.

 

[grey matter]

Still wonder how strong Georg was on a grand scale.We know he was stronger as Suzaku

I meant, amongst the "good guys" clique.
Aside from Natsu when he's fully locked in (i.e w/o DF or flame of emotion), these three are treated as peak: Gildarts, followed by Laxus/Jellal.

George probably scales to human Acno in raw stats, and likely just got caught off guard by Selene. Dude defeated an actual "dragon king" in combat, who in all likeliness is representative of the ceiling/benchmark for prime Laxus (similar to Igneel for prime Natsu).
At this point, he's below just Elefseria and DF Natsu IMO, in a ranking of just humans. FH Zeref and black witch too, if you wanna include them.

 

[WoWfan]

I meant, amongst the "good guys" clique.
Aside from Natsu when he's fully locked in (i.e w/o DF or flame of emotion), these three are treated as peak: Gildarts, followed by Laxus/Jellal.

George probably scales to human Acno in raw stats, and likely just got caught off guard by Selene. Dude defeated an actual "dragon king" in combat, who in all likeliness is representative of the ceiling/benchmark for prime Laxus (similar to Igneel for prime Natsu).
At this point, he's below just Elefseria and DF Natsu IMO, in a ranking of just humans. FH Zeref and black witch too, if you wanna include them.

Considering that George was killed with one casual hand by a DG and Jellal survived a casual hand from Acno, I doubt he was that strong in comparison

 

[Darklord#10]

I meant, amongst the "good guys" clique.
Aside from Natsu when he's fully locked in (i.e w/o DF or flame of emotion), these three are treated as peak: Gildarts, followed by Laxus/Jellal.

George probably scales to human Acno in raw stats, and likely just got caught off guard by Selene. Dude defeated an actual "dragon king" in combat, who in all likeliness is representative of the ceiling/benchmark for prime Laxus (similar to Igneel for prime Natsu).
At this point, he's below just Elefseria and DF Natsu IMO, in a ranking of just humans. FH Zeref and black witch too, if you wanna include them.

A LOT of the fans don't rate George because he got neg diff'd by selene which is fair but he slayed the dragons diabolos guild members ate and if you look at the abilities, personally I don't think George is a joke. Dude took down a dragon King like nothing and he didn't even need that dragon king power

 

[grey matter]

A LOT of the fans don't rate George because he got neg diff'd by selene which is fair but he slayed the dragons diabolos guild members ate and if you look at the abilities, personally I don't think George is a joke. Dude took down a dragon King like nothing and he didn't even need that dragon king power

It wasn't like "nothing", looked like a high diff fight, but George was still insanely strong. In retrospect, his "one shot" makes no sense given what these DGs are incapable of accomplishing against far weaker characters, aside from potentially a lazy "he was caught off guard" excuse.

Mashima is backtracking a lot. Dude acts on impulse, wastes massively hyped characters (God Serena, George) and then tries to damage control. Hence why God Serena and George get gassed up after their deaths.

There is zero reason Merc couldn't give Lucy or Brandish the George treatment, when George is strong enough to one shot each of them, aside from pure plot armour.

Issue with low impulse control, lack of planning and thinking with dick instead of head. Mashima should have actual editors with balls that call out obvious bullshits, instead of braindead yes men. Then maybe Alverass and 100YQ would've been a 9/10 instead of a 1 or 2/10

 

[WoWfan]

Not to mention that Selene was nerfed in Earthland which makes George appear weaker. Also another thing, I do not believe simply having ”king” in the title would automatically make that Lightning Dragon strong, or at least recognizably strong without something or someone to compare too. Titles only go so far unless there is a statement for explicit comparison, because Dog Dude is called a DG too and he is stated to not be comparable to the other 5.

The problem with 100 year quest is more of a fanfiction than an actual continuation as Hiro stated, it is a corporate product.

 

[Rigel]

Not to mention that Selene was nerfed in Earthland which makes George appear weaker. Also another thing, I do not believe simply having ”king” in the title would automatically make that Lightning Dragon strong, or at least recognizably strong without something or someone to compare too. Titles only go so far unless there is a statement for explicit comparison, because Dog Dude is called a DG too and he is stated to not be comparable to the other 5.

The problem with 100 year quest is more of a fanfiction than an actual continuation as Hiro stated, it is a corporate product.

You only believe in what the Spriggans are capable of; any other villain after that group, you downplay their power level or pretend they aren't that powerful.

 

[WoWfan]

You only believe in what the Spriggans are capable of; any other villain after that group, you downplay their power level or pretend they aren't that powerful.

How so? I believe that some people would compare them to any new villain because they consciously don’t like them but unconsciously acknowledge they are still relevant and strong. Why else would the make all these absurd comparisons!