Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 56 Spoilers & Discussion

What are you expecting to see from Eduan in this fight? (Unlimited selectable responses)

  • Lightning techniques.

    Votes: 17 43.6%
  • New Attributes(Ice, etc).

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Shinsoo Manipulation Techniques unrelated to Attributes.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Shinwonryu.

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • Weapons ( but not the main spear).

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • The main spear.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Everything.

    Votes: 9 23.1%

  • Total voters
    39
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We'll see about this as soon as next week.
Which is why I said he needs feats. Aubryon has much, much better feats. Thankfully we'll get more next week.

But merely from the two sources of statement from Mago and Lator (both of whom are above Aubrion) speak of Eduan as powerful is enough for me to conclude they're around the same tier.

and this reversal thing is just like shinwonryuu

Mago's reversal is applicable in battle just like Traumerei's shinwonryu.

Aubrion and Lator is similar to Gustang. It has not direct application in frontal combat.
Feats matter more than statements and Mago called Eduan strong before too. Latour said Urek was a weakling in this very chapter and Urek is clearly stronger than Eduan.

When Urek said Mago can devour planets, we saw people's reactions.

Feats-wise, Urek hasn't shown an ability which can counter Reversal but it's obvious he is stronger.
 

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It's not just because Mago was overconfident it's because Edahn got W moments only when Mago bet on her Counter. If we just exclude those moments, the fight was lackluster from Edahn side. Not taking away from Edahn that he managed to hit Mago despite Counter was active. It's just that those attacks could have been dodged if she knew Counter doesn't work.
Thats just massive W from Eduan for finding counters to the reversal.
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People are really comparing Mago to Aubrion?

I can't see how someone that could effortlessly draw blood from Urek with simple palm strikes would have a problem with Magos vines
Its retroactive but lets not forget even Luslec can draw blood from present time Urek.
 

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Its retroactive but lets not forget even Luslec can draw blood from present time Urek
Not in bare handed CQC which is one of Ureks strongest areas.

We haven't seen any one manhandle Urek in CQC as what Aubrion did with mundane looking palm strikes and chops.

Think about what those palms could do to Mago's vines lol

Anyone that can draw blood from Urek bare handed should naturally have topnotch durability
 

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Mago inside the princess is moving me a lot. Hope she's alive in Baam's timeline. Need her in his harem for sure. She's so much better than Endorsi!

Otherwise, this is getting boring now. SIU, brother, please move on, man!
 

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I wonder how powerful would Obrion be if he learns martial arts of Ha family. After all the moves he used back then were just superficial karate chops iirc.
 

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And this side story is shaping up to go on endlessly

We gonna need to skip the minor plotpoints and focus on the big stuff. At this rate, we’re never getting back to season 4…
 

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And this side story is shaping up to go on endlessly

We gonna need to skip the minor plotpoints and focus on the big stuff. At this rate, we’re never getting back to season 4…
SIU played us with his season 3 end notes. We deserve better! The spin-off started off with a bang; now it's just in the avg. category (for me personally)
 

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Hmm I have no idea what SIU is trying to do here. He showed during aburion vs urek fight and eduan vs mago fight the disparity between shinning ones and FHs where eduan was having hard time with weakened mago with little bit of light powers where aburion fought urek who was using significantly morel light powers and even used shinsoo in combination to beat aburion.

Now it seems he is reversing what he established and making FHs and shinnies comparable. Not that I mind but he should stick to one lane.
I think the issue is headcanon filling is the substantial blanks left by unanswered questions by eduan's and mago's fight. The fight, as fun as it was, is for all intents and purposes useless for powerscaling.

- We start of with a weakened mago, whatever that means.
- At first mago's hope reversal doesn't work on eduan. Then after a while it does.
- Hope reversal is BS.
- Eduan ends up countering hope reversal by using an attack that was seemingly programed to attack automatically.
- Mago flips the table on eduan by activating urek's light. And I maintain my point that we don't know how this powerup works on how this version of mago powerscales compared to anyone.
- Eduan activates his god of lightning form which works as a definitive counter to hope reversal.
- Mago uses her jewelry box and draws an ability which provides an absolute defense. Since mago's ability is random I would say we can't know how other abilities would have hold up against eduan even while powered with urek's light.
 

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SIU played us with his season 3 end notes. We deserve better! The spin-off started off with a bang; now it's just in the avg. category (for me personally)
This spinoff is treated like a fullblown main story with all its subplots with the regulars…that we have no attachments to. If SIU cared, he should have included Baek Ryun to the regulars cast from day 1 so we can actually give a damn and follow it.

urek and eduan is carrying this spinoff hard.
 

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I think the issue is headcanon filling is the substantial blanks left by unanswered questions by eduan's and mago's fight. The fight, as fun as it was, is for all intents and purposes useless for powerscaling.

- We start of with a weakened mago, whatever that means.
- At first mago's hope reversal doesn't work on eduan. Then after a while it does.
- Hope reversal is BS.
- Eduan ends up countering hope reversal by using an attack that was seemingly programed to attack automatically.
- Mago flips the table on eduan by activating urek's light. And I maintain my point that we don't know how this powerup works on how this version of mago powerscales compared to anyone.
- Eduan activates his god of lightning form which works as a definitive counter to hope reversal.
- Mago uses her jewelry box and draws an ability which provides an absolute defense. Since mago's ability is random I would say we can't know how other abilities would have hold up against eduan even while powered with urek's light.
The thing is urek is the source of light powers and should obviously exceed the tiny light powers which mago absorbed from urek. Aburion was fighting a substantially powerful light user hence where mago's light powers ran out quickly and after the fight eduan was very tired and needed rest.

Aburion then transforms and urek needed to fuse shinsoo with his light powers to take him out.
 

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At this point, it cannot be called a spin off anymore. We are already at Ch 56. It's more like Nano Machine and 3 M, connected verse.
 

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Not in bare handed CQC which is one of Ureks strongest areas.

We haven't seen any one manhandle Urek in CQC as what Aubrion did with mundane looking palm strikes and chops.

Think about what those palms could do to Mago's vines lol

Anyone that can draw blood from Urek bare handed should naturally have topnotch durability
I think you didn't get it. Destroying just the vines isn't hard for the Shining Ones or the FH. The hard part is that Mago combines them with her Hope Reversal, so any attacks used end up rebounding back on the attackers themselves. Eduan even says it'll be complicated to break free without intending to do so.
 

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The thing is urek is the source of light powers and should obviously exceed the tiny light powers which mago absorbed from urek. Aburion was fighting a substantially powerful light user hence where mago's light powers ran out quickly and after the fight eduan was very tired and needed rest.

Aburion then transforms and urek needed to fuse shinsoo with his light powers to take him out.
There's no doubt that urek has far more light than what neo could steal with the crystal. To me what's up in the air is how mago's powerup with it worked and how mago using the light compares to any other character. As I have said before, there's basically two ways the powerup can work:

1.- It could give mago basically unlimited mana for as long as the light lasts (thus more of urek's light wouldn't make her stronger, she'd simply have unlimited mana for a longer time).

2.- It could simply power her up proportionally to the amount of light she stole (in which case more light would mean mago is even stronger).

There could be something in between but I lean more towards the first option because it feels more video-gamey. It'd also make peak urek something like a cheat character that is permanently in limit break mode of sorts.

Now, even in those scenarios we don't know what peak mago without urek's light looked like. Or how far from her peak she was when the fight with eduan started. Or how peak mago without urek's light holds up against the version of mago we saw with urek's light. Aubryon was tentatively at full strength but we have no idea of how he holds up against mago with urek's light. It is of course possible that Aubryon was stronger than mago with urek's light. But asserting that this is a fact is nonsense when we don't even know how light based combat works. As in, SIU has literally not explained a damn thing about what the light combat skill tree is like.

There's so much ambiguity in the power scaling here and people are just dying on what to me seems like random headcanon hills whose assumptions SIU flips every few chapters. And then people complain that their headcanon didn't hold up.
 

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(Latour to Eduan: "even inside this Tower... I can't believe there's a guy this strong")

“even inside this Tower”

So the specialty of the tower again being raised.

Also, saying This without any bias towards or against shinies or FH, but it seems as a whole, anyone FH level or above is an anomaly outside

Makes me wonder if anyone of them even knows of Enryu or the outside God.

Makes me believe in the multiple worlds hypothesis even more.
The peak of humans outside is around that outside king that was used as a summon. Strong but=to or below shinie tier. Anything stronger is a axis like Urek and Phanta.
 

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To me what's up in the air is how mago's powerup with it worked and how mago using the light compares to any other character
It was pretty much clear that her random jewel box uses light as a power source not the despair she gathers, so one of her main abilities will be nerfed if she never gets light again.
 

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When this torture is going to finish siu..

Throw this thing in the can and start TOG
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This story is destroying the main one..
 

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I think you didn't get it. Destroying just the vines isn't hard for the Shining Ones or the FH. The hard part is that Mago combines them with her Hope Reversal, so any attacks used end up rebounding back on the attackers themselves. Eduan even says it'll be complicated to break free without intending to do so.
Well destroying the vine is one thing, but getting destroyed by the vine is another. How Aubrion or Urek would break free is up to speculation, but they certainly aren't getting turned into Yama by the vine like Eduan absolutely was. Eduan nearly died and had to pull out his final form in panic
 
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