Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 56 Spoilers & Discussion

What are you expecting to see from Eduan in this fight? (Unlimited selectable responses)

  • Lightning techniques.

    Votes: 17 43.6%
  • New Attributes(Ice, etc).

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Shinsoo Manipulation Techniques unrelated to Attributes.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Shinwonryu.

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • Weapons ( but not the main spear).

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • The main spear.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Everything.

    Votes: 9 23.1%

  • Total voters
    39
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And why wouldn't mago be able to get light through despair?
Because she herself said she, a jewel cannot produce light on her own no matter what. I am not sure if it matters but the wording around shines has always been strength rather than light. For instance, Latour has gained this much strength rather than light.
 

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Because she herself said she, a jewel cannot produce light on her own no matter what. I am not sure if it matters but the wording around shines has always been strength rather than light. For instance, Latour has gained this much strength rather than light.
The assumption I am working under is that the shining ones can't produce their own light hence they simply brutally harvest it from others. I wouldn't have assumed the strength they are talking about is anything other than light. If they can recover strength but it isn't light (or darkness) it'd add another layer of uncertainty to this power scaling mess.
 

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Because she herself said she, a jewel cannot produce light on her own no matter what. I am not sure if it matters but the wording around shines has always been strength rather than light. For instance, Latour has gained this much strength rather than light.
Mago is just a rock right now and she cannot produce any light but it doesn't mean she cannot use other people as her pawns to generate light
as for latour ? urek may kicked his a## already so what he meant could just mean that latour is reaching his full potential after all urek had kicked all their a##es outside so they need to use some kind of tricks to regain their power so all of them have tricks like what we have seen , mago despair , aubrion demon, and latour idk LOL


strength could just also mean light or darkness , after all they were tainted, so if you think strength as pure raw power you shall look at mago ? without light she looks like weakling
 

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The assumption I am working under is that the shining ones can't produce their own light hence they simply brutally harvest it from others. I wouldn't have assumed the strength they are talking about is anything other than light. If they can recover strength but it isn't light (or darkness) it'd add another layer of uncertainty to this power scaling mess.
So u think Counter gives shinies light. Idk I always felt counter was sth they gained after they were sealed in jewel by Phanta and it's part of his powers. Could be wrong tho but if the reason they can use counter is because of phanta, I don't think it generates light. The only assumption is All shinies had Counter ability before they were subjugated but UM doesn't have one.
 

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So u think Counter gives shinies light. Idk I always felt counter was sth they gained after they were sealed in jewel by Phanta and it's part of his powers. Could be wrong tho but if the reason they can use counter is because of phanta, I don't think it generates light. The only assumption is All shinies had Counter ability before they were subjugated but UM doesn't have one.
Counter?
 

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Translation of Reversal by Webtoon
Ah, ok. More than counter gives them light, my interpretation is that it gives them the means to harvest it. While my first guess/assumption is that each shining one developed it's version of reversal independently it is technically possible they came up with these following their subjugation by phanta. The first chapter frames them as beings that were tormenting life and their reversals seems ideal to do that. My guess would be that urek wouldn't care for a reversal type ability like the shining one since he isn't as small, petty and miserable as them but technically speaking whether he has such an ability or not is unknowable as of now.
 

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Fuckass individuals man, something's wrong with em
Reminds me of Full Counter of Meliodas from seven deadly sins. Seems compatible atleast with hope.
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Ah, ok. More than counter gives them light, my interpretation is that it gives them the means to harvest it. While my first guess/assumption is that each shining one developed it's version of reversal independently it is technically possible they came up with these following their subjugation by phanta. The first chapter frames them as beings that were tormenting life and their reversals seems ideal to do that. My guess would be that urek wouldn't care for a reversal type ability like the shining one since he isn't as small, petty and miserable as them but technically speaking whether he has such an ability or not is unknowable as of now.
Every Shiny having one while UM doesn't seem unlikely if they were born with it. So far it doesn't seem like UM has one tho. Phanta has powers of darkness not light so if counter came through him, I don't see them gathering light through counter. Hopefully upcoming chapters will shed some light in this area
 

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Hi, does someone have a link to the raw?
 

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why urek intercepted the spear lator would have tanked it to protect Mago... man sometimes i'm just fed up how SUI made those decision that has no sense...
 

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Only time I liked this spin off is when main series characters appeared..Urek aside of course…Then they did and still ain’t enough going on in the story to be remotely compelling. 🤷🏿‍♂️side story is ass. It’s like everything wrong with SIU writing in one spot…😖
 

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This fight should definitely be a serious one. Only ways I can see it being interrupted are:

  • A clear loss.
  • Urek's friends scream and he ends up leaving.
  • A call from Zahard(most likely IMO).
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I should have phrased it better. But I meant it's best to not solely use feats shown so far in the spin off.

It will get clear once this fights happens anyway

Btw I think admin will interfere rather then Zahard
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I get the point you’re making, but here’s where I stand on it:
People are hyped right now because they want a clear answer to who’s actually stronger on the battlefield. And I agree that Urek’s power is suppressed most of the time in TOG, but even with that, he’s basically untouchable in the narrative. Urek is one of those characters whose strength is so well‑known that even someone who has only read the series once or just heard rumors automatically recognizes him as the strongest guy

That’s why I think SIU has to be careful.
If the story keeps pushing Urek backward for plot reasons, eventually his image will take a hit. His entire role in the series is built on the idea that he’s overwhelmingly dominant. If he’s repeatedly shown being matched, stalled, or pushed around too often, the hype that has defined his character from day one is going to fade, no matter how the fight is contextualized.

So yeah, while I get the idea that feats are unclear right now, and more things will make more sense after the fight, Urek’s reputation is something SIU can’t casually risk. His mythos is too important to the story.
You are giving way more importance to urek then he has been given in the story.

Even in the fandom, urek was never considered the strongest. Hell, he wasn't (and probably still isn't) even top 3.

Zahard, Enryu, phanta in general has always been considered above him by most of the fans . And this still hasn't changed.
 

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I understand people being annoyed by the interruption but surely Urek VS Eduan is better than a free for all.

Only one person voted for this option in the poll :XD .

Hi, does someone have a link to the raw?
Nothing yet.
 

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I understand people being annoyed by the interruption but surely Urek VS Eduan is better than a free for all.

Ehn, 50/50 on that one.


The free for all would have caused more exciting damage overall.


But the 1 V 1 with Edhuan might still make up for it up to a point.
 

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Ehn, 50/50 on that one.


The free for all would have caused more exciting damage overall.


But the 1 V 1 with Edhuan might still make up for it up to a point.
Well, it's Latour's arc and the Eduan fight couldn't be postponed forever so that's the better alternative IMO. A free for all would have been messier.
 

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The free for all would have caused more exciting damage overall.
There would be just kaboooms shhhhsshsh everywhere with no one taking a serious damage so hell with it :)
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But the 1 V 1 with Edhuan might still make up for it up to a point.
maybe you can finally see Urek abusing his super speed.
 

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why urek intercepted the spear lator would have tanked it to protect Mago... man sometimes i'm just fed up how SUI made those decision that has no sense...
He is protecting the princess, Mago is still weak and can't protect the princess body herself.
 

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We'll need the translations to be sure but it seems that Mago had total control of Nameless in this chapter.
 
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