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While that development would be awesome I think it's a tad early to make that call. To me his words to the gorosei sound like the leadership and decisiveness they were under saturn. He was ultimately correct in that imu couldn't be stopped and that it is time for all of them to get their hands dirty.

Something I was thinking... it's a bit weird that garlin just made it to the room. Where was he? I think it'd make sense if he was trying his new gorosei powers.
 

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Something I was thinking... it's a bit weird that garlin just made it to the room. Where was he? I think it'd make sense if he was trying his new gorosei powers.
I think he was probably helping deal with the attacks. He seems a bit more hands on than the others.
 

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I been saying this. I think he wants the throne.
interesting thought but that would mean he was able to subdue IM’s contract right?
 

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interesting thought but that would mean he was able to subdue IM’s contract right?
Feels like everyone thinking he’s going to try and take the throne are forgetting that Imu can just take over his body or straight up kill him with a thought.

And presumably, if Imu dies, they all lose their immortality, which makes trying to take over pointless. Gorosei is the highest tier anyone who can’t steal Imu’s power (or doesn’t care about dying) can reach, and anyone whose taken higher level contracts literally can’t oppose Imu.
 

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It sounds like a pretty big stretch that garling could overcome his contract. Even Harald couldn't and garlin by now has an even deeper contract.
 

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Yeah Shanks made the big brain play by getting out before he was in too deep.

Unless Garling has some “I’ve discovered your secret weakness!” card up his sleeve, he’s Imu’s servant until one of them dies.

I don’t see his comments as being plotting for self gain. He was giving rational input and acknowledging the fact that none of the Gorosei can stop Imu from doing anything he decides to do.
 

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There must be flashbakc to joyboy era at some point
Are you saying you think Oda won’t just never explain who JoyBoy was or what happened in the Void Century and how Imu ties into it all?

idk man, that seems a bit far fetched.
 

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Yeah Shanks made the big brain play by getting out before he was in too deep.

Unless Garling has some “I’ve discovered your secret weakness!” card up his sleeve, he’s Imu’s servant until one of them dies.

I don’t see his comments as being plotting for self gain. He was giving rational input and acknowledging the fact that none of the Gorosei can stop Imu from doing anything he decides to do.
The beautiful thing about art is it can be seen plenty ways lol.

I didn’t say it that way. I saw it as a way of egging him on. At the very least I believe garland is plotting SOMETHING. For arguments sake let’s say it’s not Imus seat. I believe he has a motive unlike the rest of the gorosei… however I do believe St. Peter’s is gonna betray them.
 

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At the very least I believe garland is plotting SOMETHING. For arguments sake let’s say it’s not Imus seat. I believe he has a motive unlike the rest of the gorosei…
I think they all share the same motive: staying in power. It seems like they are disagreeing on the best course of action to do that. The rest of them think they should just keep doing what they’ve always done and hope it starts working again, and he thinks they should be taking the problem seriously and taking more extreme actions.

And he’s not wrong. For the first time in who knows how long, there is a Nika and a Nidhogg, and they are allied with each other. This isn’t a just do the status quo situation. All 5 of them literally just failed to kill a single Strawhat or any of the Giant Pirates, even with an Admiral, several Vice Admirals, and Multiple Seraphim backing them up.

Now they would be facing that same force plus more giants, Scopper, and Loki. They need to escalate their response, not just try the same thing again and hope it works out better this time.

Imu going himself is the only way to do that. Sending like the full force of Gods Knights or multiple Admirals would weaken the defenses of the Holy Land in the battle against the RA, and the battle already sounds like it’s not going in the WG’s favor.
 

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I been saying this. I think he wants the throne.
He is super EXTRA SALTY...cause, he provided a place for the W.N games,, a whole island full of resources..Revealed the hideout from the Daveys,,, and still the shadowy bastard,, piece of shit- doesn't provide him with Eternal youth... back them (he probably got it now-that he is a Gorosei- Old man forever) (he still keep the Hairdo..duh)
 

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He is super EXTRA SALTY...cause, he provided a place for the W.N games,, a whole island full of resources..Revealed the hideout from the Daveys,,, and still the shadowy bastard,, piece of shit- doesn't provide him with Eternal youth... back them (he probably got it now-that he is a Gorosei- Old man forever) (he still keep the Hairdo..duh)
Ehh, I wouldn't be surprised. Immortality is always better when you can be eternally young instead of being stuck as old man. I hate what he did but with all honesty, just like you said: he did A LOT. And yet still got stuck as "lowly" Holy Knight instead of getting promoted. So yeah, I could see Garling ploting quietly behind Imus back.
 

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He is super EXTRA SALTY...cause, he provided a place for the W.N games,, a whole island full of resources..Revealed the hideout from the Daveys,,, and still the shadowy bastard,, piece of shit- doesn't provide him with Eternal youth... back them (he probably got it now-that he is a Gorosei- Old man forever) (he still keep the Hairdo..duh)
aside from the obvious appearances of keeping the "Five Elders" as old dudes being a proper facade to the world, i can also imagine Imu being extremely wary of anyone too young, too malleable in their ways. the older you get the more set in your ways you get, and that's far more useful than ambitious upstarts still trying to prove themselves for advancement. i can absolutely see Garling as being savvy enough to hide his ambitions well enough that Imu either doesn't notice or doesn't care.

Garling is on that page with everyone trying to find the One Piece, and out of everyone there (aside from silhouette I assume is Shamrock) I have the least idea of what his motivations for finding it would be aside from somehow overthrowing Imu.
 

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aside from the obvious appearances of keeping the "Five Elders" as old dudes being a proper facade to the world, i can also imagine Imu being extremely wary of anyone too young, too malleable in their ways. the older you get the more set in your ways you get, and that's far more useful than ambitious upstarts still trying to prove themselves for advancement. i can absolutely see Garling as being savvy enough to hide his ambitions well enough that Imu either doesn't notice or doesn't care.

Garling is on that page with everyone trying to find the One Piece, and out of everyone there (aside from silhouette I assume is Shamrock) I have the least idea of what his motivations for finding it would be aside from somehow overthrowing Imu.
You can say Gunko... and Juu Peter.. from all the Goro's got the best deals..

Btw i was Kinda joking as being Salty just 4 dat.. im pretty sure at this stage on his life.. he will be way more than happy even if he can keep himself as an old man forever ..Buuutttt... taking Imu's place and power somehow..i wont discard that... but if true im pretty sure those ideas are goin to clash with B.B ones.. wanting exactly the same.

There is Just one seat to sit being King of the world.
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Ehh, I wouldn't be surprised. Immortality is always better when you can be eternally young instead of being stuck as old man. I hate what he did but with all honesty, just like you said: he did A LOT. And yet still got stuck as "lowly" Holy Knight instead of getting promoted. So yeah, I could see Garling ploting quietly behind Imus back.
Welp..you have to admit that Oda's made him Insanely Handsome.. and OH boy he was so friking full of himself... i remember when he said he "placed an order for himself" regarding getting the best Waifu "Shakky" like ordering in an Auto Mac... Losing.. all his good look, it wasn't something very pleasing for him probably... Speeeciallyyy knowing Imu's did have the power to Keep you young forever...
 

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We have already been shown how can Imu be sent back to his very relaxing flower room, and that is a massive display of conqueror’s haki, but, is there someone on Elbaph who can do it? Nope, not a chance, but on the flashback we have already been told that haki can be combined as Roger and Garp did to nerf Rocks, and Gaban already told Luffy that several of his crewmates have it, Loki also has it, so maybe everyone who has conqueror’s haki combine it into a mega blast that sends Imu home, of course, not before he defeats the Strawhats as they have never been defeated.”
 

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We have already been shown how can Imu be sent back to his very relaxing flower room, and that is a massive display of conqueror’s haki, but, is there someone on Elbaph who can do it? Nope, not a chance, but on the flashback we have already been told that haki can be combined as Roger and Garp did to nerf Rocks, and Gaban already told Luffy that several of his crewmates have it, Loki also has it, so maybe everyone who has conqueror’s haki combine it into a mega blast that sends Imu home, of course, not before he defeats the Strawhats as they have never been defeated.”
There is the possibility of fruits themselves having Haki. We have Ragnir the Hammer behaving in it's true nature with it's willpower on fully display. So there is some degree of will power from a fruit inhabiting an inanimate object.

I think the Nika and Nidhogg fruit could also at the bare minimum influence their host, and at maximum, contribute to their will power.

Given the history of those 2 fruits and Imu, I wouldn't be surprised if we witness a Haki boost for the hosts when coming face to face with Imu and not his remote control form (for lack of a better word).
 

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Garling is on that page with everyone trying to find the One Piece, and out of everyone there (aside from silhouette I assume is Shamrock) I have the least idea of what his motivations for finding it would be aside from somehow overthrowing Imu.
I did say a while back that Garling might be plotting to betray/take the throne, so I'm on board with that one, but in regards to the silhouette: Shamrock was right handed when dealing with Loki, and that character is clearly left handed.

It doesn't exclude him, but makes it less likely.
 
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