@Demonspeed@digitaldude@wojak@NashSilver do you think im crazy, who o you think is remaining mafia ? share your thoughts on potnetial janitor too? what do you think of sam, holt, hardy and james
likely green Demon - confirming role DD trusting so far, he came with results
Wojak - sounds honest imo Teubier - cant see him lying on this, plus used his role seemingly.
Brandi tend to trust he is townie, unless this reveal is a setup
Most suspicious: Holt - well trusted him yesterday but with DD and Teubier results he could be claiming Gryff role
Sam - his claim makes sense but way too convenient, dont remember his hint, given the number of people i trust , he automatically get more suspicious by elimination too.
James - could be actual det, but with kamu dying det, well its him or nash.
Nashy - well could be prostitute or escort
Hardy, lied about being doc, and as said earlier it makes to me more sense for bomb to be mafia. could be wrong too -bomb defused
-teubier claimed on d1, according to his mortician use on gryff he had 0 feedback, unless someone else blocked him, which is unlikely, so given dd results on gryf, it makes nash and holt among the most likely to have claimed gryff 's role
I chose Gryffindor to use my Necromancer ability despite him being Janitored. I thought Gary was also a legit Necromancer and that he would go for Kaminogan.
Next is James - Surviving consistently is just a pisstake at this point and I'm not exactly proud I contributed to that. I'm already tired of addressing Kami's play but I hate how that made me hesitate. 2 dets is nothing crazy actually, but the elephant is the room is the supposed constant block which the only claimed hoe Nash doesn't take responsibility for. It would mean there is an escort perma blocking the det, while that would make sense in N1 maybe due to the reveal, it's just a waste. One result wouldn't do much anyway so I believe a block would've been better spent elsewhere. There's a frame chance potentially for a mislynch but then James wouldn't keep weaseling out in that situation
This take on James is pretty +town for Holt, I didn't even consider the fact chain blocking a det claim doesn't even make sense for maf especially if there are claimed TP protecting Demon, necromancers uncovering Janitor cleans etc.
mafia went on gary, they really were afraid he digs out some info thats it, gary alwways pretend to be lost and talk as minimum as possible, in game but hes very sharp and rarely does mistakes on players. Mafia is experimented they went for gryff and gary bc they are dangerous players, and bc they feared something about them, gryff likely said something that triggered them.
Also why killing mortician over doc, det, prostitute when they new I will protect vigilante ?
Because if you are psych you need either a traitor or lover to find or else you don't fit in the comp.
Mafia kills have been weird. That's a fact. Simplest explanation is that they're looking for a traitor because they're only 3 in the team. Gryff has posts that would trip a traitor signal, especially since we can be almost certain both James and Hardy are maf from the 3 people he pinged day 1.
@Demonspeed@digitaldude@wojak@NashSilver do you think im crazy, who o you think is remaining mafia ? share your thoughts on potnetial janitor too? what do you think of sam, holt, hardy and james
likely green Demon - confirming role DD trusting so far, he came with results
Wojak - sounds honest imo Teubier - cant see him lying on this, plus used his role seemingly.
Brandi tend to trust he is townie, unless this reveal is a setup
Most suspicious: Holt - well trusted him yesterday but with DD and Teubier results he could be claiming Gryff role
Sam - his claim makes sense but way too convenient, dont remember his hint, given the number of people i trust , he automatically get more suspicious by elimination too.
James - could be actual det, but with kamu dying det, well its him or nash.
Nashy - well could be prostitute or escort
Hardy, lied about being doc, and as said earlier it makes to me more sense for bomb to be mafia. could be wrong too -bomb defused
so janitor should be among sam, holt unless someone lied on their claim
-if scum, nash is likely escort.
-If scum james isnt janitor. nash probably blocked james, makes more sense than blocking bran who used his role/unless theres an escort, if shes legit
-i dont think teubier and dd lied but dont exclude that.
- someone claimed gryff role, could be sam,holt,nash and james, maybe dd if scum.
-teubier claimed on d1, according to his mortician use on gryff he had 0 feedback, unless someone else blocked him, which is unlikely, so given dd results on gryf, it makes nash and holt among the most likely to have claimed gryff 's role
- james could be lying all along but he claimed on d1 so he cant be claiming gryff role.
- sam is likely scum but i assume he claimed psy due to potatoe and sickly
- trusting wojak and he plays townily but... anything is possible
most lkely mafia to me, and again its just my 2cens : either nash and /or james, sam, holt, hardy (hardy could be town bomb buuuut unsure)
nash vs james could be acting but janitor to me is either sam or holt.
What worries me is that this very vibe-y and missing some critical thought. I'd appreciate some more thought backing it up and you getting claims correct like Teub saying Necro and not Mort!
@SirSamuel016 even if i dont trust holt he summarized very well, theres no point having a psy for a potato n sickly that are revealed in game anyway at some point.
Wasn't really expecting Brand to flip Town, this changes things a bit.
First is Hardy- In direct opposition to Brand and you did say to lycnh you if he flipped town. There is little to say here, considering the size of the game, and just poe, it makes the most sense that he was indeed Mafia bomb. Only thing is faking doc is so lame. That's a town move, since a lynch as doc is very unlikely. Ideally should've claimed something higher risk to bait the lynch. Then again, surviving matters most so I guess he just wanted to
Next is James - Surviving consistently is just a pisstake at this point and I'm not exactly proud I contributed to that. I'm already tired of addressing Kami's play but I hate how that made me hesitate. 2 dets is nothing crazy actually, but the elephant is the room is the supposed constant block which the only claimed hoe Nash doesn't take responsibility for. It would mean there is an escort perma blocking the det, while that would make sense in N1 maybe due to the reveal, it's just a waste. One result wouldn't do much anyway so I believe a block would've been better spent elsewhere. There's a frame chance potentially for a mislynch but then James wouldn't keep weaseling out in that situation
Teub - double necros is...something. Considering the claims we have so far, I think it's a bit of a stretch how much sustain town would have in such a situation. That said, I would assume it's better to keep the other necro alive for a mislynch and kill someone else. But given the amount of protection claimed (prost, doc, bg), maybe they were forced to play it safe to avoid missing a kill. I'm also not a fan of how he keeps saying he wishes he can kill, it's almost tongue in cheek
Sam - Psy seemed alright initially but it makes less sense as we go on. Sickly is announced in thread and HP can easily be revealed at any point. Even if one person wanted to keep it covered, it'll likely be passed to someone who would just blurt it out. So whats the point of the Psy here? Just filling in? I don't like it
Wojak - He has the sickly going for him but that says nothing for affiliation. Also barely seen him so he could just be chilling under that banner. Still worth kkeeping an eye on
Nash - Honestly, still trust Nash with no other hoe revealed + Kami shenanigans but would they do so anyway? But it could still be elaborate, and the move of blocking the other hoe is questionable imo (even if she mentioned). However I've liked her otherwise so far, hence my protection. That said, I'm worried about being blindsided. Lost one det already (though not exactly her fault) and lynching another det claim (albeit looks very scummy atm). If it's a mislynch I wouldn't have to bumb her to the very top
Erin - BG was a nice bet, and with a doc it checks out. Demon didn't die but that could be facilitated by mafia simply ignoring him in hopes that he misfires. Still, she is one of the more trustworthy ones. That's except she's faking the role but who knows
What worries me is that this very vibe-y and missing some critical thought. I'd appreciate some more thought backing it up and you getting claims correct like Teub saying Necro and not Mort!
@SirSamuel016 even if i dont trust holt he summarized very well, theres no point having a psy for a potato n sickly that are revealed in game anyway at some point.
either doc saving det, or prostitute blocking him, but leaning towards the 1st hence my vote on holt.
thats if you re legit but so far im trusting you.
teubier results fit too.
do you really think there are lovers ? it could be, not deniying.
why would you target wojak on n1.... ? if you were looking for lovers.
either doc saving det, or prostitute blocking him, but leaning towards the 1st hence my vote on holt.
thats if you re legit but so far im trusting you.
teubier results fit too.
Well young Wojakulate, from my perspective the only guaranteed towns are myself and @Demonspeed; may as well call us the shit shot brothers at this point. Extending that circle outwards, the remaining players are yourself (Town/Sickly claim), Erinyes (Bodyguard), Holt (Doctor), Hardy (Defused Bomb), Nashina (Hoe), James (Detective with sperm cramps (blocked)), DD (Spirit Medium), and Teuberculosis (Necromancer). So that makes me think, who is likely to be red given what we know? (i.e Marm Restless Spirit, Kaminogan Dicktective, Brandish the Hardy Stopper).
Before I give you my current suspects, I see a few issues this revolves around:
- How many necrophilia (aka dead cunt roles) should town have? (2 with Marm and Gary; Teub and DD another two)
- How many investigative roles should town actually have? (Kami a confirmed Det, James a claimed Det, and myself a Psychiatrist)
My current suspects are: 1. Necrophiliacs (Teub vs DD)
Lack of info is a killer here and I'm not too reassured by either one. Thought and gut feel tells me there might be scum here, especially in light of Gary claiming he was claimcucked because he was Necro. Factoring Marm who was also a dead cunt role (Restless Spoof), that makes 4 necrophiliacs. So, its down to DD the Spirit Medium vs Teubs the other Necro. Two Necros sounds odd. If two bombs are legit, 2 dead cunt roles is fine but is 3 overkill? Could be both of them, but its definitly one of them. I lean towards Teubs being the dodgiest one although DD is elite at slipping through the cracks sometime.
2. The Night 1 Cuck (Hardy)
I'm not certain on this one but a comment that is ringing loudly atm is @Demonspeed saying that the Hot Potato is a neutral role that can kill. Ethically that could mean that we're looking at Town killing role (and town killer kekw) Demon, and mafia bomb Hardy who got bummed by Brand N1 (amazing chase down block from Jaden McFurphys himself). To me, this puts Hardy as likely scum.
after that it gets less certain but...
3. Information (or lack thereof)
The question I'm mulling over now is 'would town have 3 investigatives?' I'm definitely one although my choice for target is similar to Desmonds atm (i.e. not good). Then there was Kami who was town Det but played like town bomb or something because what the fuck was he doing? Then there's James, the other Det claimer. James does look dodgy here but there's another person I'll include in this category because they tie into information through the obstruction of it: the claimed blocker, Nash. It may be a scenario where both James and Nash are town, but that could be unlikely. What irks me though is that both "Dets" claimed a block but Kami was the one who we have to believe was blocked unless he is lying and forgot to submit an action (crackpot idea but it'd track given what he's like innit). So James, without the existence of a 2nd blocker, is immediately flagged as the most sus. Logically, he shouldn't be Det but that is based on an assumption. If there is a 2nd blocker, that makes James legit and Nash town blocker while someone who lied (Teub or DD for example) as that possible 2nd blocker.
4. The others
I'm just going to mention that I think Holt and Erin are likely town at this point, although one could be bsing potentially. The only person I haven't mentioned yet is you Woj, and of those others I think you're more likely to be red because Sickly is handy vote control for a small team that could use a leg up like that. Not saying you're likely red yet, but I definitely think the possibility is growing.
If Kami had died Scum I would believe you, Bran and Holt to be townies no matter what due your votes saving my butt.
Seriously thank you guys.
Still there is a tiny chance that you being ingame means lovers could be as well and if so there is a, albeit weird, chance of you a) being Mafia claiming psy which would be ballsy af if a 2nd had claimed and from what I remember you claimed while others were still hiding their roles b) be the Lover Psy (which doesnt really make sense from a gameplay perspective as that defeats the psy purpose but maybe to confuse the players, idk?) and c) you being threesome and trying to get it on with the lovers to increase their chances. But that would mean like a 3-3-9 situation and that is just, nah.
So I lean towards you being 100% townie and Bran dying as town adds to that feeling as well.
So to me Sam, Holt, Erin are the ones I trust most to be town. And myself ofc, but I know many would disagree with that and I could no result to back them off my hide except my pleas that I am telling the truth, which I am. Honest, I am detective and I'm so done with being blocked...
Demon is clearly Vigilante, ofc with the target being the townie bomb defuser there is a chance he is lovers, killing a townie to then get the sus potential mafia counter part lynched. A day killing townie lover coupled with whatever Mafia role would imo make a lot of sense and give lovers a lot of power to direct kills and lynch intent. But he is one of the few people not hellbend on lynching me so I would put him into the grey area.
Hardy claiming doc/bomb now defused bomb, is another issue, I cannot see Erin being our sole protector as BG, we should have doc as well. Yet save for there being more than hot potato and Hardy's defused bomb, the chances of him being Mafia bomb vs town bomb are high. It all depends what roles the scumbag side got and if lovers are in-game. If lovers are there then with the higher amount of scum town should have stronger roles to counter that and all the graveyard related roles (last will, one time corpse action usage, checking dead corpse past actions, etc) are kinda weak compared to the usefulness of docs or dets. Or a spy. We should have had a spy. A spy would have confirmed me by now that I wasn't able to send out any action. Man, I wish we had a spy...
Nash could be prostitute but someone, I forgot who maybe Hardy, said that she could be lover prostitute thus knowing about me getting blocked constantly by Escort due her lover telling her and using that information to grill me, acting as if she is the only blocker in-game. That would put 2 anti-town blockers in game for which we would need lots of investigative roles to counter that/get through. And if there are 2 blockers why not make both of them Escort and just have one reveal acting as prostitute, right?
But with me revealing day 1 and Kami dying day 2 due his convoluted plan (I still don't get what his first claim prosecutor was about? Avoiding getting blocked by Escort because they dont want to use a 50/50 on him so he can investigate with no trouble? LOL if so then that backfired epicly with Nash targeting him thinking she got a 100% to block another Escort's block action. XD), that pretty much blew up.
Teubier I don't really trust with the way he played with the poems, random role reveal, how he votes (like his votelock day 2 was just what? Felt so scummy to votelock someone random and then disappear ignoring the whole me vs Kami situation and the Kami/Nash claiming both prostitute situation) and how he used his role so far. Doesn't feel very pro townie. Could be just a townie playing not well. But also might be the escort blocking me.
wojak seems to not be in the game somehow, acting confused whenever Demon points to his claim he would have used an active role if he had one. Did he even ever say what his passive role was? Or was he lying about it like Kami did? All I remember is his sickly secondary claim. Anyway sus and him acting as if he would move his vote and then leaving me cold for dying adds to that susness. At least in my book. I was hoping he would move so I had a greater chance to survive the Kami/Nash onslaught on me.
DD being SM is another sus thing since Sam did pointed out we got a ton of graveyard related roles for a Janitor, especially given how useless Janitor already is in a game with few graveyard related roles due townies usually hinting well/claiming early once it's clear that Janitor is ingame and people want to avoid dying as a ??? with nobody knowing what they could have been. I think DD was the last to claim, right? I'm pretty sure it happened after Demon's vigilante claim. If so, last to claim (in case wojak has already claimed and I just missed it) is most sus since they know all roles in game and can just pick whatever is left over. And SM often gets picked by Janitor from my experience since they know the role first and then can just fake results that we mostly have no way of checking, save for making a mistake. So he would be my Janitor guess.
That's my read at least.
My guess for the Mafia crew would be Hardy, Teubier, wojak, DD.
And with Lovers either Demon or Nash seems most likely to give lovers an edge in a three way battle of town vs mafia vs lovers.
In case Nash is Escort then it just means we had duo Escort vs a duo det and in that case I would exchange Teubier for Nash as Mafia, since a 2nd necro does makes sense to make usage of the dead dets after they died lategame with results already out giving us a good idea what our sanities were supposed to be.
The dets just being blocked, me on purpose and kami randomly and us getting in a vs lynch fight day 2 just really lowered the usefulness of the necros is all. Like even if Teubier uses Kami next nightphase or me later after I finally die, and I don't think Mafia will let me die yet,all we know is that someone is innocent and guilty which doesn't tell us much since that would be the first finding of the dets anyway. We would have to bet on sane and insane if that happens.
If there are 2 Escorts, that would a) explain why Nash is still alive instead of Hardy getting blocked to almost certainly kill her b) explain why we had 2 dets c) give more meaning to the 2 necros and potentially explains why the mafia went after one of them because they know both are real and they wanted to avoid two different det results today. Ofc Teubier's play on Gryff made that worry void, but its an acceptable worry from a Mafia perspective,right?
Nothing about DD though?
