Games Mafia Game 140 - Manga Sippers - End Game

[Erinyes]

@Demonspeed please share your thoughts, you are our confirmed townie, and don't get depressed for bran, he probably is drunk somewhere in heaven, he wont hold grudge , im sure.

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Thing is why didnt teubier use detective...

probably to try to dig out gryff role to find out janitor

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det would still be 1 use , with no confirmation about sanity, so

 

[SirSamuel016]

missing critical ?

critical thought yes

You had no strong explanation for why you trust people, it didn't make strong links back to things which makes you sound wishy-washy, disconnected etc. I'm not saying that makes you non-town, but it muddies the water a bit when its just vibes.

Gimme more explanation, connect the dots on how you reached your position

 

[Erinyes]

i think i kept writing walls about my opinion, now my time to listen to others.

 

[SirSamuel016]

i think i kept writing walls about my opinion, now my time to listen to others.

I disagree, you're a person of interest here with views I find skewed so can you break down what makes you trust people like you listed? In detail please

 

[digitaldude]

KEEL THE JAMES OR KEEL THE HARDY

Between james and hardy who is 100% no chance at being townie @wojak @SirSamuel016 @NashSilver @Erinyes

 

[Holt]

I appreciate that there's some thought behind this Nothing about DD though?

Also lol at sussing me, not much logic behind that and just vibey

I completely forgot DD. Actually gives more credence to the Necro ? SM is convenient but I think that’s much harder fake, + more likely to be SM/Necro instead of having double necros either in addition or substituting.

Not much logic? Your role seems redundant, how is pointing that out vibey?

 

[Natasha]

Just checked Xio's post history, it wasn't that long and he basically pushed nothing mafia would kill him over.

So Xio kill was purely mechanical?

I see no traitor pings at all.

Would you mech kill the real Necro if Tubbs was in your mafia team?
Probably not?
But that's entering the mafia are perfect fallacy territory so idk.

Tubbs' info lines up with DD's info for now, so that's +town cred for both imo.

Shame since I like holt socially, but DD + Tubbs info does paint him poorly.

KEEL THE JAMES OR KEEL THE HARDY

Between james and hardy who is 100% no chance at being townie @wojak @SirSamuel016 @NashSilver @Erinyes

I hate to admit it but probably hardy

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Shame since I like holt socially, but DD + Tubbs info does paint him poorly.

Saying this, if Hardy flips mafia then Holt is probably cleared and Gryff was something else?

Why would Hardy and Holt counterclaim eachother if teamed?

 

[Hardy]

I got 5 minutes I can't believe you are willing to let James go yet another day for no reason

 

[Holt]

Ah damn I keep forgetting lovers are always a possibility. Can we just kill that role already fgs. Still we should be able to isolate a sure kill atleast. Imo we need to pick between James, Hardy, Teub. It is near impossible for mafia to not be there, assuming it’s not 3 even

 

[Hardy]

The moment Brand flipped green responsability was thrown over the window and it was settled that I'd get lynched and lose. Same way "huh Kami lied it was all his fault" after ignoring Marm's post.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Also I read through the lyrics of Work again and I'm finding it hard to relate it to any role other than a hoe because the man wants sex while the girl wants something more. Only other thing I can think of is that its investigative or third party-ish in some way?

I chose Gryffindor to use my Necromancer ability despite him being Janitored. I thought Gary was also a legit Necromancer and that he would go for Kaminogan.
I asked the host how it worked in this case. I chose to use a potential night action on digitaldude.
And at the end of the night, I got nothing.
So Gryffindor was TP, or he was a townie with no night action. Either way, that contradicts Sifu’s result right?
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Or I got blocked...

Looking back at this again, and I just don't get the logic behind going for this gamble other than praying it gives you a result.

 

[Natasha]

For what it's worth I still think lynching James is more productive

We don't know what he has been this whole time, and we have a lot of voting patterns to look back on James compared to Hardy

 

[SirSamuel016]

Ah damn I keep forgetting lovers are always a possibility.

AND YOU CALLED ME REDUNDANT?! CMON BRUV

 

[Hardy]

On the necros, both of them can go for the same person, so I don't understand Teubier's train of thought and he even said he asked the hosts about it (but is still wrong).

 

[SirSamuel016]

@digitaldude claim and result again please?

 

[digitaldude]

@digitaldude claim and result again please?

medium gryffindor targeted james night 1

 

[SirSamuel016]

he even said he asked the hosts about it (but is still wrong).

What do you mean?

 

[Erinyes]

Tubbs' info lines up with DD's info for now, so that's +town cred for both imo.

agreed, also teubi, claimed on d1, could be faking, but the guy havent played for like 10 years or so, necro was not existing back then, and most likely wouldnt fake it, unless he is a very skilled mafia, he seemed even pretty lost about his own results/lack of result, thats what makes me trust him ( not saying he cant be lying)

 

[Hardy]

What do you mean?

I quoted it earlier today. He said something about asking hosts and using his action accordingly, and I questioned him and he never replied. In theory different necros can use the same body, they don't go over the other.

 

[James Rye]

Vigilantee + Hot Potato should probably account for all killing town has in a 14 player game
Town Defuser there for maf bomb or an out of control hot potato

I think the lack of a mafia defuser would make Town Bomb inherently unlikely

And there probably isn't maf+town defusers for maf+town bombs + hot potato

I think Hardy is maf bomb by process of elminiation of what kinda setup requires a town bomb to be plausible with confirmed Vigilantee and hot potat.

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So yeah I'm willing to lock Hardy here

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I'll go re-read Sams wall in a sec I wanna finish looking at the kill choices first

Why would a mafia defuser reveal being 2nd defuser after Brand already wrote on day 2 he defused Hardy? That doesn't make any sense. Just because you are Mafia Bomb defuser doesn't mean you should out yourself as the townie part same for why Escorts don't always claim Prostitute because that puts too much spotlight on them.
That just invites a 1 for 1 lynch since nobody would have trouble lynching a townie bomb defuser to get rid of the mafia bomb defuser. If you lynch both you get the Mafia 100%.

This is not to defend myself, but to point out James has been lying

Says the blocking det N1 and rofl blocking bomb defuser N2 prostitute. Sure~
I believe your N1 kill due Kami not coming clean with results, though given how Kami plays I wouldn't put it past him that he got a result and simply never shared because he was hellbend on revealing det only on day 3 with two results under his belt. But your N2 block is just sus, plain out wrong.
I can't do anything about me being blocked twice in a row. But you clearly do not have a good hand in picking your night targets, that is 100% on you and that's why the Brand block feels like a lie to me and you blocked someone else.
Maybe it was Teubier after all.

This take on James is pretty +town for Holt, I didn't even consider the fact chain blocking a det claim doesn't even make sense for maf especially if there are claimed TP protecting Demon, necromancers uncovering Janitor cleans etc.

Based Holt take.

Your "based Holt take" ignores the fact that Hosts don't create games that are over after 2 night phases. If I had gotten a result last night and get another one next night, with the reduced amount of players and more and more confirmed roles 2 results alone would hold a lot of water. Mafia will move away from blocking me once they feel secure that I would get only ONE result in before they win due a lynch vote the day I announce the result. Probably the day I die as they then will point at me being all "OoooOOOOooooh, NOW you got results? Night 3? Are you for real? Lolololololol, lets lynch that scumbag, lets gooooo town!".
God, I can already see it happening...

Because if you are psych you need either a traitor or lover to find or else you don't fit in the comp.

Mafia kills have been weird. That's a fact. Simplest explanation is that they're looking for a traitor because they're only 3 in the team. Gryff has posts that would trip a traitor signal, especially since we can be almost certain both James and Hardy are maf from the 3 people he pinged day 1.

There is absolutely no way Gryff would ever ping all 3 Mafias if he was traitor. He is way too much of a pro for such an obvious move. His ping then clearly was because we hadn't given hints yet for day 1, that's all. You are reading things into things that are not real.
@Erinyes Seriously, Erin, do you believe this Gryff = traitor = pings all three Mafia to get killed, Mafia kills him and he turns out NOT TRAITOR? Heck! Nash is actually the first to talk about traitor! After lover talks grew more prominent! This feels like a diversion to not have her be seen as Lover Prostitute. You really think she is 100% townie with a block on Brand and this kinda play?

Did you say you saw him target Kami

Hmmm

No, me. Probably didn't matter who he picked, me or Kami but I was most likely to die day 2 so picking me makes most sense.
Again, if I had died Det on day 2 then DD could have said "Told you guys, Gryff targeted James clearly to protect him" to gain more cred with town.