Games Mafia Game 140 - Manga Sippers - End Game

[Hardy]

Gotta go again

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 24, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 24, 2026 ---

I'm not reading any of James' post for like 2 days now btw and I don't think anyone should

 

[SirSamuel016]

DD: Spirit Medium claim - N2 targeted Gryff: Targeted James N1
Teub: Necromancer claim - N2 used Gryff's ???? on DD - produced no result

Wild assumption but if Teub was legit and Gryff a blocker then DD shouldn't have a result

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 24, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 24, 2026 ---

I quoted it earlier today. He said something about asking hosts and using his action accordingly, and I questioned him and he never replied. In theory different necros can use the same body, they don't go over the other.

Yeah, they should be able to. It is feasible for a Necro to use a Janitor'd role and get a result though

 

[Erinyes]

I got 5 minutes I can't believe you are willing to let James go yet another day for no reason

isnt james the top voted ?
his list makes me distrust him more and more.
@Hardy 5 minutes, enough time to list your most suspects ones and your opinion on sam, holt, and everyone actually !

 

[James Rye]

For what it's worth I still think lynching James is more productive

We don't know what he has been this whole time, and we have a lot of voting patterns to look back on James compared to Hardy

I literally only voted to save my life though? How the heck is my vote pattern of 2 days reason enough to read me as Mafia: In that case everyone who voted Marm and Kami are Mafia and that would put us above 4 scumbags.

Also why is my post from page 50 ignored? No one liked or replied to it. Not a single one. After all the time I put in...

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 24, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 24, 2026 ---

isnt james the top voted ?
his list makes me distrust him more and more.
@Hardy 5 minutes, enough time to list your most suspects ones and your opinion on sam, holt, and everyone actually !

At least one person read it!
I did say I would like some feedback so just like Sam who says he doesnt like all your takes why don't you tell me where I have gone wrong with my reads?
I think your read on Vigilante being 100% townie after killing Brand is a risky take due Sam claiming Psy implying lovers could be in-game and if Hardy turns out Mafia bomb, was killing Brand over Hardy really just an unlucky 50/50 or did he had insider information which would have made that shot a 100% depending on his goal?

 

[SirSamuel016]

If Teub is legit, Gryff can't have had any role that provides a result. It could be protective, a blocker or a passive, though a blocker would mean DD is lying.

Would a DD lynch give us info on Teubs or visa-versa?

 

[Erinyes]

@Erinyes Seriously, Erin, do you believe this Gryff = traitor = pings all three Mafia to get killed, Mafia kills him and he turns out NOT TRAITOR?

no i dont think , gryff is like a computer. Even more perfomant than gpt in processing info, i believe he was killed bc he said something or hinted something that triggered mafia, pretty much like gry being killed n1. I think he was killed out of fear he figured something.
And probably gary was killed out of fear he could dig out gryff roles. Gary over teubi, bc more experimented and good hunches. Mafia is most likely composed of experimented players too , who know well the players they killed.

 

[Natasha]

Spoiler: James Wall

Why would a mafia defuser reveal being 2nd defuser after Brand already wrote on day 2 he defused Hardy? That doesn't make any sense. Just because you are Mafia Bomb defuser doesn't mean you should out yourself as the townie part same for why Escorts don't always claim Prostitute because that puts too much spotlight on them.
That just invites a 1 for 1 lynch since nobody would have trouble lynching a townie bomb defuser to get rid of the mafia bomb defuser. If you lynch both you get the Mafia 100%.



Says the blocking det N1 and rofl blocking bomb defuser N2 prostitute. Sure~
I believe your N1 kill due Kami not coming clean with results, though given how Kami plays I wouldn't put it past him that he got a result and simply never shared because he was hellbend on revealing det only on day 3 with two results under his belt. But your N2 block is just sus, plain out wrong.
I can't do anything about me being blocked twice in a row. But you clearly do not have a good hand in picking your night targets, that is 100% on you and that's why the Brand block feels like a lie to me and you blocked someone else.
Maybe it was Teubier after all.



Your "based Holt take" ignores the fact that Hosts don't create games that are over after 2 night phases. If I had gotten a result last night and get another one next night, with the reduced amount of players and more and more confirmed roles 2 results alone would hold a lot of water. Mafia will move away from blocking me once they feel secure that I would get only ONE result in before they win due a lynch vote the day I announce the result. Probably the day I die as they then will point at me being all "OoooOOOOooooh, NOW you got results? Night 3? Are you for real? Lolololololol, lets lynch that scumbag, lets gooooo town!".
God, I can already see it happening...



There is absolutely no way Gryff would ever ping all 3 Mafias if he was traitor. He is way too much of a pro for such an obvious move. His ping then clearly was because we hadn't given hints yet for day 1, that's all. You are reading things into things that are not real.
@Erinyes Seriously, Erin, do you believe this Gryff = traitor = pings all three Mafia to get killed, Mafia kills him and he turns out NOT TRAITOR? Heck! Nash is actually the first to talk about traitor! After lover talks grew more prominent! This feels like a diversion to not have her be seen as Lover Prostitute. You really think she is 100% townie with a block on Brand and this kinda play?



No, me. Probably didn't matter who he picked, me or Kami but I was most likely to die day 2 so picking me makes most sense.
Again, if I had died Det on day 2 then DD could have said "Told you guys, Gryff targeted James clearly to protect him" to gain more cred with town.

You have some modestly reasonable arguments but they're all buried in a sea of rhetoric and non-solving posting.
Especially your Gryff take is entirely damning.

There is absolutely no way Gryff would ever ping all 3 Mafias if he was traitor. He is way too much of a pro for such an obvious move. His ping then clearly was because we hadn't given hints yet for day 1, that's all. You are reading things into things that are not real.

No town would view it like that. No town knows what Gryff did, or has reason to very strongly believe it's not possible he was traitor.
You've also basically confessed how your own team mistook the fact he was pinging for hints as a traitor hint, since what other reason do you have for thinking this about Gryff's actions in this light when this has been the first time traitor has even been mentioned.

@digitaldude I change my mind on the 100%, it's James

 

[Erinyes]

Wild assumption but if Teub was legit and Gryff a blocker then DD shouldn't have a result

and doc ? what about gryff being doc

 

[digitaldude]

You have some modestly reasonable arguments but they're all buried in a sea of rhetoric and non-solving posting.
Especially your Gryff take is entirely damning.



No town would view it like that. No town knows what Gryff did, or has reason to very strongly believe it's not possible he was traitor.
You've also basically confessed how your own team mistook the fact he was pinging for hints as a traitor hint, since what other reason do you have for thinking this about Gryff's actions in this light when this has been the first time traitor has even been mentioned.

@digitaldude I change my mind on the 100%, it's James

Very good, lets keel the james

 

[James Rye]

If Kami had died Scum I would believe you, Bran and Holt to be townies no matter what due your votes saving my butt.
Seriously thank you guys.
Still there is a tiny chance that you being ingame means lovers could be as well and if so there is a, albeit weird, chance of you a) being Mafia claiming psy which would be ballsy af if a 2nd had claimed and from what I remember you claimed while others were still hiding their roles b) be the Lover Psy (which doesnt really make sense from a gameplay perspective as that defeats the psy purpose but maybe to confuse the players, idk?) and c) you being threesome and trying to get it on with the lovers to increase their chances. But that would mean like a 3-3-9 situation and that is just, nah.
So I lean towards you being 100% townie and Bran dying as town adds to that feeling as well.

So to me Sam, Holt, Erin are the ones I trust most to be town. And myself ofc, but I know many would disagree with that and I could no result to back them off my hide except my pleas that I am telling the truth, which I am. Honest, I am detective and I'm so done with being blocked...

Demon is clearly Vigilante, ofc with the target being the townie bomb defuser there is a chance he is lovers, killing a townie to then get the sus potential mafia counter part lynched. A day killing townie lover coupled with whatever Mafia role would imo make a lot of sense and give lovers a lot of power to direct kills and lynch intent. But he is one of the few people not hellbend on lynching me so I would put him into the grey area.

Hardy claiming doc/bomb now defused bomb, is another issue, I cannot see Erin being our sole protector as BG, we should have doc as well. Yet save for there being more than hot potato and Hardy's defused bomb, the chances of him being Mafia bomb vs town bomb are high. It all depends what roles the scumbag side got and if lovers are in-game. If lovers are there then with the higher amount of scum town should have stronger roles to counter that and all the graveyard related roles (last will, one time corpse action usage, checking dead corpse past actions, etc) are kinda weak compared to the usefulness of docs or dets. Or a spy. We should have had a spy. A spy would have confirmed me by now that I wasn't able to send out any action. Man, I wish we had a spy...

Nash could be prostitute but someone, I forgot who maybe Hardy, said that she could be lover prostitute thus knowing about me getting blocked constantly by Escort due her lover telling her and using that information to grill me, acting as if she is the only blocker in-game. That would put 2 anti-town blockers in game for which we would need lots of investigative roles to counter that/get through. And if there are 2 blockers why not make both of them Escort and just have one reveal acting as prostitute, right?
But with me revealing day 1 and Kami dying day 2 due his convoluted plan (I still don't get what his first claim prosecutor was about? Avoiding getting blocked by Escort because they dont want to use a 50/50 on him so he can investigate with no trouble? LOL if so then that backfired epicly with Nash targeting him thinking she got a 100% to block another Escort's block action. XD), that pretty much blew up.

Teubier I don't really trust with the way he played with the poems, random role reveal, how he votes (like his votelock day 2 was just what? Felt so scummy to votelock someone random and then disappear ignoring the whole me vs Kami situation and the Kami/Nash claiming both prostitute situation) and how he used his role so far. Doesn't feel very pro townie. Could be just a townie playing not well. But also might be the escort blocking me.

wojak seems to not be in the game somehow, acting confused whenever Demon points to his claim he would have used an active role if he had one. Did he even ever say what his passive role was? Or was he lying about it like Kami did? All I remember is his sickly secondary claim. Anyway sus and him acting as if he would move his vote and then leaving me cold for dying adds to that susness. At least in my book. I was hoping he would move so I had a greater chance to survive the Kami/Nash onslaught on me.

DD being SM is another sus thing since Sam did pointed out we got a ton of graveyard related roles for a Janitor, especially given how useless Janitor already is in a game with few graveyard related roles due townies usually hinting well/claiming early once it's clear that Janitor is ingame and people want to avoid dying as a ??? with nobody knowing what they could have been. I think DD was the last to claim, right? I'm pretty sure it happened after Demon's vigilante claim. If so, last to claim (in case wojak has already claimed and I just missed it) is most sus since they know all roles in game and can just pick whatever is left over. And SM often gets picked by Janitor from my experience since they know the role first and then can just fake results that we mostly have no way of checking, save for making a mistake. So he would be my Janitor guess.

That's my read at least.
My guess for the Mafia crew would be Hardy, Teubier, wojak, DD.
And with Lovers either Demon or Nash seems most likely to give lovers an edge in a three way battle of town vs mafia vs lovers.

In case Nash is Escort then it just means we had duo Escort vs a duo det and in that case I would exchange Teubier for Nash as Mafia, since a 2nd necro does makes sense to make usage of the dead dets after they died lategame with results already out giving us a good idea what our sanities were supposed to be.
The dets just being blocked, me on purpose and kami randomly and us getting in a vs lynch fight day 2 just really lowered the usefulness of the necros is all. Like even if Teubier uses Kami next nightphase or me later after I finally die, and I don't think Mafia will let me die yet,all we know is that someone is innocent and guilty which doesn't tell us much since that would be the first finding of the dets anyway. We would have to bet on sane and insane if that happens.

If there are 2 Escorts, that would a) explain why Nash is still alive instead of Hardy getting blocked to almost certainly kill her b) explain why we had 2 dets c) give more meaning to the 2 necros and potentially explains why the mafia went after one of them because they know both are real and they wanted to avoid two different det results today. Ofc Teubier's play on Gryff made that worry void, but its an acceptable worry from a Mafia perspective,right?

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I'm happy for feedback regarding my thoughts.^^

My bad it was on Page 51. I quoted my list here, so my thoughts can be read. Don't listen to Holt and just skip my list! Please!

 

[Natasha]

Also why is my post from page 50 ignored? No one liked or replied to it. Not a single one. After all the time I put in...

You've done great soldier

I read it

 

[SirSamuel016]

and doc ? what about gryff being doc

Doctor doesn't give you a result Erin

 

[Erinyes]

Would a DD lynch give us info on Teubs or visa-versa?

id rather lynch a useless psy over a Spirit medium who can provide useful info. at this point of the game

 

[James Rye]

You have some modestly reasonable arguments but they're all buried in a sea of rhetoric and non-solving posting.
Especially your Gryff take is entirely damning.



No town would view it like that. No town knows what Gryff did, or has reason to very strongly believe it's not possible he was traitor.
You've also basically confessed how your own team mistook the fact he was pinging for hints as a traitor hint, since what other reason do you have for thinking this about Gryff's actions in this light when this has been the first time traitor has even been mentioned.

@digitaldude I change my mind on the 100%, it's James

No that is me reading Gryff as a player from dozens of games. He is just not the person to do such a thing, period!

And I gave clear targets how the heck is that non-solving? You just don't like that I don't buy your block story on Brand and that I read you as either a Lover Prostitute or as an Escort. -_-

 

[Erinyes]

Doctor doesn't give you a result Erin

thats what im saying i tend yo believe gryff was doc.

 

[Holt]

My bad it was on Page 51. I quoted my list here, so my thoughts can be read. Don't listen to Holt and just skip my list! Please!

What did I say??

 

[James Rye]

You've done great soldier

I read it

Thank you.
Please don't be the one who blocked me in N2. That would just be....hah...

 

[Natasha]

id rather lynch a useless psy over a Spirit medium who can provide useful info. at this point of the game

@Erinyes @SirSamuel016

Careful not to spiral on eachother.

Regardless of if either of you have agenda, James and Hardy are almost certainly evil and if James escapes one more lynch I'll post sobbing anime gifs

 

[James Rye]

What did I say??

Was it not you?

Gotta go again

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 24, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 24, 2026 ---

I'm not reading any of James' post for like 2 days now btw and I don't think anyone should

Oh.
My bad, Holt. Hardy, Holt, two Hs, it happens.

 

[SirSamuel016]

id rather lynch a useless psy over a Spirit medium who can provide useful info. at this point of the game

Woah, useless? I'm gonna say the forbidden words of calm down to you Erin, because why are you getting so prickly off the drop like that
I see you won't play ball on going deeper with your thoughts though

@Erinyes @SirSamuel016

Careful not to spiral on eachother.

Regardless of if either of you have agenda, James and Hardy are almost certainly evil and if James escapes one more lynch I'll post sobbing anime gifs

Hey its an issher (issue for her), not an issme Nashina